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EPCOT Test Track to be reimagined

HMF

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You’re right, but Tron was written alllll over it. I felt it in my bones. That’s more of what I meant I guess.
It had a Tronish vibe but it wasn't explicitly based on Tron. It was loose enough to not need the Tron brand which is interesting because since Iger became CEO in 2005 90% of the stuff WDI has done has been forced to be cross-promotive on it's face or never get the green light.
 

jah4955

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Also at the time WDP was a much smaller company and needed that sponsorship money. They really don't have that problem any more and they still can't update often enough. That being said, I am glad GM is still on board to prevent them from turning it into Lightning McQueen's Racing Academy.
true...but I still have the perception ... particularly thru Disney's collaborations with OLC for example, that Disney, lately, has been its best when their development budgets are complimented by the money of other entities.
 

ParadoxPortals

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I wasn't all that impressed with the new version of TT. For one thing, I found the voices a bit annoying. WDW also took away one of the reasons to re-ride TT. I'm a big fan of rides that offer variation, like the different songs on GoG.

That said, additive manufacturing has a potential to allow customers to easily customize their vehicles and to more easily re-customize them. It would have been fun if the newest version had updated the create-your-own part of the attraction.

The old TT encouraged riders to add things like giant tires. In the real world, I think most people will focus on long-term value, safety and options that make everyday life easier.
Agreed. I strongly encourage everyone to watch ParachutingKitten's latest YouTube video on the history and current evolution of Test Track, it sums up my thoughts super well. 3.0 feels corporate in a way previous EPCOT's attractions haven't felt as much like, with cringe-worthy dialogue and narration, and many scenes that don't feel like they had the budget to be fully built-out. Especially the 'electric charging road' scene where you travel though a black void of nothing. I've seen it with lights-on, there was space for more propping, just not budget...

The music I was initially unhappy with as many of the tracks sound samey (Kinetic Motion is the best IMO, especially the start of the song). After many listens, I'm warming up to it.

The ride's queue is obviously abysmal. It's offensively empty. Imagineering seems to think they need to remove every piece of propping from a previous ride or else it'll feel embarrassing(?) / cheap, but they should've just kept 2.0's queue largely unchanged for 3.0, it still fits the new theme well and would be a budgetless option to keep the queue good.

Obviously this is old news and no-one actually cares about this, but Disney objectively lied about the World of Motion inspiration. It's not about the history of transportation, it's not a real solid attempt at edutainment, it's inconsistent in how much it wanted to show-off physically built-out scenes over basic screen media / black void areas, so I ended uo being overhyped for something that maybe should've been clearer in what it was trying to do.

Overall it doesn't actually feel like 3.0. It feels like 2.5 (this is fine, but not what we were hoping for). The same concept of showing off an exciting possible sci-fi future of transportation with light theming and 2 gendered robot voice narrators, but this time the music is slightly less catchy, the queue is weaker, there's no car design mini game offering re-rideability, and the outside track wasn't covered so we still get thunderstorm downtime. 3.0 felt like a lateral move, not a level-up, and I think the fandom needs to be more frank about this fact.
 

jah4955

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Obviously this is old news and no-one actually cares about this, but Disney objectively lied about the World of Motion inspiration. It's not about the history of transportation, it's not a real solid attempt at edutainment, it's inconsistent in how much it wanted to show-off physically built-out scenes over basic screen media / black void areas, so I ended uo being overhyped for something that maybe should've been clearer in what it was trying to do.
As I was reminded of a couple weeks ago, everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, I disagree strongly with the claim that "Disney objectively lied," at least here. You apparently concluded "inspiration" meant "history of transportation...edutainment."

In 2023 they simply stated, "Disney ... [is] reaching back into history for inspiration – from the original World of Motion – and bringing that spirit of optimism to the next iteration of the Test Track attraction."

In my opinion (all other arguable shortcomings of 3.0 aside), Disney did exactly what they said they would do from their, albeit very-vague, 2023 claim (I admit my perception is still limited in-part because I've only seen videos of TT3.0 (have yet to experience the ride of TT3.0, but:
  1. (Most-importantly) I would argue that, at moments, they seem to have re-created, at least to a degree, a WoM "feel" that I haven't experienced anywhere else since my last time at WoM (I admit...I'm being verrrrrry subjective here but based on the objective fact I rode WoM many, many times).
  2. The ride starting by overlooking some of the queue area.
  3. Very optimistic tone in the narrators (like Gary Owens was & the general theme of WoM--although done very humorously until towards the end) & in the soundtrack
  4. "Peppers Ghosts" placing you in the "car of the future"
  5. That "Fun to be Free" sequence (admit it was just a few words and few notes but paralleling WoM sequences of "getting out there" thru Transporation
  6. Future vehicles, "City of the Future," numerous other WoM Easter Eggs throughout
  7. Sponsors don't sponsor out of the goodness of their hearts...but to promote their business, so I totally "get" various aspects of the queue...but even this was done in a VERY WoM format: (#1: various old/historical transportation clips, #2: shown in "rapid-fire" succession, #3, with the actual vehicles present)....all like WoM did before you started going thru the "tunnels."
I had very low (but still hopeful) expectations in 2023, but, although I wouldn't say this is the greatest thing ever, Disney (&GM) technically exceeded my expectations. Again...there can be so much to harp on with Disney recently...and I've been harping since the mid-90's...but I don't think "Disney objectively lied" here.
 
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ParadoxPortals

Active Member
As I was reminded of a couple weeks ago, everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, I disagree strongly with the claim that "Disney objectively lied," at least here. You apparently concluded "inspiration" meant "history of transportation...edutainment."

In 2023 they simply stated, "Disney ... [is] reaching back into history for inspiration – from the original World of Motion – and bringing that spirit of optimism to the next iteration of the Test Track attraction."
Fair enough, you have good points, I probably worded my criticism too harshly in places. I see how 3.0 looks back to recreate elements of WOM in places, I think I was expecting a more concrete 'return to form' for EPCOT's Transportation Pavilion, and that's on me.

Still though, I feel Disney purposefully overhyped me by keeping things vague so that I would default to a more grandiose expectation than I probably should've had.
 

HMF

Well-Known Member
true...but I still have the perception ... particularly thru Disney's collaborations with OLC for example, that Disney, lately, has been its best when their development budgets are complimented by the money of other entities.
I agree with you. I would sell all the parks to OLC right now if they would take them.
 

HMF

Well-Known Member
Agreed. I strongly encourage everyone to watch ParachutingKitten's latest YouTube video on the history and current evolution of Test Track, it sums up my thoughts super well. 3.0 feels corporate in a way previous EPCOT's attractions haven't felt as much like, with cringe-worthy dialogue and narration, and many scenes that don't feel like they had the budget to be fully built-out.
I strongly feel the First Test Track felt much more like a GM commercial than this one does. Also, If you were expecting a drive-through re-creation of World Of Motion. You were just setting yourself up for disappointment that was clearly never going to happen.
 

DisneyCane

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Some Easter Eggs we noticed that I don't know if they've been mentioned in the thread. At the beginning of the mountain/forest drive, the sign that you pass as the narrator says "it's always fun to be free" says "Mile 82." I'm pretty sure the symbol for the "eco" simulation is on the workbench in the Pepper's ghost area but I only spotted that briefly. Also, my wife noticed that the address of the house where they talk about the unrealistic simple car body change is 10182.
 

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