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Team Prospero Brainstorming Thread - Project Nine: Happy Birthday To You
- Thread starter TheOriginalTiki
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JokersWild
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Personally, I'd rather see a completely new attraction in that space, haha.
OR, it's an anniversary, let's bring a reworked Alien Encounter back.
Aside from that, I'd really love for Tomorrowland to be the focus of our anniversary refresh. Space Mountain could use a ton of work, Monsters Inc. and Buzz are getting dated. Carousel of Progress has been long neglected. There's a lot that we could take a look at.
JokersWild
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Personally, I prefer Paris, but everyone seemed super into WDW so I was just going with that haha.
NigelChanning
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By refurb I meant replacement. Thanks for pointing that out!
DashHaber
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Oh, yeah. I'd want to see a new attraction in that space, as well.
Maybe with Tron most likely originally planned to have opened for this celebration and a potential attraction to replace Stitch, I could see Tomorrowland maybe get some special attention with the celebration.
NigelChanning
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I’m not exactly sure if it’d be safe by any means. MK is one of the most beloved parks because of all the tourists who visit. A 50th anniversary celebration for the flagship park of one of the most visited theme parks to ever exist is not something to take lightly. Also, I think MK gives us a lot more to work with.
goofyyukyuk
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Just wanted to let everyone know, I'm going to be traveling over the next few days, so I'll be a little less active with brainstorming than usual, and my part of the project won't be worked on really until Saturday and Sunday.
That being said, I agree that MK is probably the safer choice, but we all remember what Tiki said about being arrogant and ignoring easy options when NuCitra chose WDW instead of Disneyland for the Frog Mountain project... just to keep that in mind
That being said, I agree that MK is probably the safer choice, but we all remember what Tiki said about being arrogant and ignoring easy options when NuCitra chose WDW instead of Disneyland for the Frog Mountain project... just to keep that in mind
goofyyukyuk
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I think safe being in terms of it's the most obvious anniversary, and Tomorrowland refurbs are often the focus of armchair Imagineering from what I've seen
JokersWild
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Just to reiterate, I do agree with Ace that WDW might be a bit obvious. Do we want to just continue with it, or do we want to discuss some of the other options? We were talking about DLP a bit last night, but Shanghai is still a viable option.
Outbound
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I agree somewhere not WDW is more original, but I don't think that's necessarily better. We shouldn't prioritize originality over enthusiasm, imo. However that's only speaking for myself, don't know what the rest of the team is most excited by.
I think spending some more time on the location is a good idea, we don't want to rush into one option without exploring any alternatives.
I think spending some more time on the location is a good idea, we don't want to rush into one option without exploring any alternatives.
mickeyfan5534
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One thing to set straight:
As I mentioned in the podcast, the main part of this prompt is the entertainment. Y'all are really focusing in on the refurb aspect and that's great but what I really want to see is how you wrap a new entertainment package (both regular and seasonal) around a unifying theme, whatever you as a team choose it to be (stay tuned for tomorrow's QotD to get some examples of what I'm talking about).
And a final piece of advice:
Writing entertainment is different from writing an attraction. Some things are easier and some things are harder. You've had a bit of entertainment experience with the Broadway challenge and I want you to return to that mindset here. Do. Some. Research.
As I mentioned in the podcast, the main part of this prompt is the entertainment. Y'all are really focusing in on the refurb aspect and that's great but what I really want to see is how you wrap a new entertainment package (both regular and seasonal) around a unifying theme, whatever you as a team choose it to be (stay tuned for tomorrow's QotD to get some examples of what I'm talking about).
And a final piece of advice:
Writing entertainment is different from writing an attraction. Some things are easier and some things are harder. You've had a bit of entertainment experience with the Broadway challenge and I want you to return to that mindset here. Do. Some. Research.
montydysquith-navarro
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- In the Parks
- No
Just pointing this out: Hong Kong Disneyland's current expansions (Castle of Magical Dreams and its new hub, Arendelle in Fantasyland, and Stark Expo in Tomorrowland) will be open by the park's 20th anniversary in 2025. In Shanghai, the Zootopia Land should be open by the park's 5th anniversary in 2021 with the way things are going so I wouldn't be surprised if that land is an anchor point in the celebration.
JokersWild
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Totally, if we were going to go with an Asian park, I'd say Hong Kong over Shanghai since their anniversary is a bit more significant.
Sharon&Susan
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Hong Kong wasn't doing economically great before the pandemic, so we'd have to scale it down compared what we could do with the other parks if we wanted it to be realistic.
JokersWild
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OR we could use it as an excuse to ramp it up and try to get more people to visit. It seems like they're already trying to do that with all of the expansions in the works.
montydysquith-navarro
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- In the Parks
- No
Tokyo standing in the corner be like:
That's true, but Mickeyfan did kinda insinuate a Blue Sky-type of planning (given the Tokyo prompt) for an anniversary. If we could strike a balance between that and a more realistic celebration (a la DLP's 20th), I think it could work.
goofyyukyuk
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So I've been doing a ton of research into the celebrations for Tokyo's 35th... and from what I can gather, the staples of what we need to do/top:
- Epic Parade. Like, this should be the center of attention, especially considering how awesome Tokyo's new parade is (and yes, you should watch the whole thing through like I did hahaha)
- General Ride Revamps. This isn't necessarily a focal point because we don't need to redesign attractions, but one of the things Tokyo did very well for their celebration was touch up attractions that were a little worn around the edges, like Small World. It's something that could definitely apply more to HK and MK, but it's still worth considering.
- FOOD. Tokyo's huge on their food, and they definitely made that a focus in their celebration. Not entertainment per se, but still something applicable.
- Merch. This one's kinda obvious, but commemorative stuff and even just new releases because of the anniversary but unrelated.
- Show. At DisneySea, they updated their water show. Obviously this is more of a challenge at WDW or HK or Shanghai, but I think an updated castle stage show is an option or we could try developing something on Rivers of America or something.
- Fireworks. To be honest, this is a challenge to Imagineer. I did a small fireworks show (like 45 seconds) for the Eladin project a month ago, and it took a couple hours and didn't exactly look impressive, so I think it's more focusing on the show-y elements of it. Think Happily Ever After or World of Color in terms of showiness. The fireworks should be an accent piece to help make our show more flashy, not the other way around, if that makes sense.
- Decorations. This is another one that isn't "entertainment" exactly, but it's important to consider and focus on, in my opinion, but how it's implemented is at the designer's discretion.
So yeah, this is what I've found, in terms of what we've got to top, and maybe some ideas on how to do it... I'm sure I missed some stuff though, so feel free to throw it in!
- Epic Parade. Like, this should be the center of attention, especially considering how awesome Tokyo's new parade is (and yes, you should watch the whole thing through like I did hahaha)
- General Ride Revamps. This isn't necessarily a focal point because we don't need to redesign attractions, but one of the things Tokyo did very well for their celebration was touch up attractions that were a little worn around the edges, like Small World. It's something that could definitely apply more to HK and MK, but it's still worth considering.
- FOOD. Tokyo's huge on their food, and they definitely made that a focus in their celebration. Not entertainment per se, but still something applicable.
- Merch. This one's kinda obvious, but commemorative stuff and even just new releases because of the anniversary but unrelated.
- Show. At DisneySea, they updated their water show. Obviously this is more of a challenge at WDW or HK or Shanghai, but I think an updated castle stage show is an option or we could try developing something on Rivers of America or something.
- Fireworks. To be honest, this is a challenge to Imagineer. I did a small fireworks show (like 45 seconds) for the Eladin project a month ago, and it took a couple hours and didn't exactly look impressive, so I think it's more focusing on the show-y elements of it. Think Happily Ever After or World of Color in terms of showiness. The fireworks should be an accent piece to help make our show more flashy, not the other way around, if that makes sense.
- Decorations. This is another one that isn't "entertainment" exactly, but it's important to consider and focus on, in my opinion, but how it's implemented is at the designer's discretion.
So yeah, this is what I've found, in terms of what we've got to top, and maybe some ideas on how to do it... I'm sure I missed some stuff though, so feel free to throw it in!
Outbound
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This is going to sound like heresy, but point values don't necessarily matter anymore. We could get an 8/10 in realism for instance and it won't have any negative consequences: someone is getting eliminated regardless, there is no "other team" we have to beat. What matters is we have fun and make something great.
Also they're totally wanting us to create a grand anniversary celebration that would put Tokyo to shame so I think it'd be ok to go big
Also they're totally wanting us to create a grand anniversary celebration that would put Tokyo to shame so I think it'd be ok to go big
goofyyukyuk
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You're really not wrong though, and I think going big is the thing that's gonna make it hardest on the judges, which is what we want as a team I think. Nobody's gonna deserve to go home regardless, no point in limiting what we do
Outbound
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I'm not saying build another park for funsies: they've made it clear they want the focus to be on entertainment. But we can still do some great stuff with this prompt.