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See, she's retired from the Navy, but certainly young enough to be doing something productive. But she doesn't work, doesn't volunteer anywhere, rarely even goes to the nursing home anymore, even though she lives much closer than the rest of us do. But she always has excuses for not doing anything -

In itself a sign. Alcoholics have an excuse for everything. It is sad...it really is a disease. But very treatable, and there is a huge committment to personal responsibilty involved.
 

Nemo14

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In itself a sign. Alcoholics have an excuse for everything. It is sad...it really is a disease. But very treatable, and there is a huge committment to personal responsibilty involved.
She lives alone in a decent size house,and when I tell you that there is not a room in that house that isn't stuffed with junk, I kid you not. I'm not the neatest housekeeper in the world, but there are literally just paths to get around in that house. So she's home all day, no kids or husband to deal with, and she can't even make an effort to clean the house? It really is scary....
 
She lives alone in a decent size house,and when I tell you that there is not a room in that house that isn't stuffed with junk, I kid you not. I'm not the neatest housekeeper in the world, but there are literally just paths to get around in that house. So she's home all day, no kids or husband to deal with, and she can't even make an effort to clean the house? It really is scary....

It sounds pretty bad. Really bad, actually. If she's not cleaning up or shopping or volunteering or visiting, then what is she doing instead?

I'm not exactly Martha Stewart myself, when it comes to housekeeping, either. :o
 

Nemo14

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It sounds pretty bad. Really bad, actually. If she's not cleaning up or shopping or volunteering or visiting, then what is she doing instead?

I'm not exactly Martha Stewart myself, when it comes to housekeeping, either. :o
I'm not either, but when it gets out of hand, I know enough to do something about it!

There's just been so many other little things that i've noticed that individually probably don't mean anything, but when you put them all together, it really looks bad.
 

Nemo14

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By the way, does she have cats?
No she has 2 dogs that are totally out of control,and she also has MIL's dog, since MIL lived there for a month or so before she had to go into the nursing home. She keeps MIL's dog in a cage all day, and when DD and I went in there last night, the dog had no water at all....
 
No she has 2 dogs that are totally out of control,and she also has MIL's dog, since MIL lived there for a month or so before she had to go into the nursing home. She keeps MIL's dog in a cage all day, and when DD and I went in there last night, the dog had no water at all....

I would say your instincts are dead on, Betty. I know it's hard for Dave, who of course loves his sister but it sounds to me like something must be done.

Poor wee doggie...any chance you could take him?

hi everyone just stopping by I am at the pizza shop. take care talk to u soon!

Hi and bye Dawn!
 

Uponastar

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Back for a minute.
Here's a pic of the astonishing cake.
My pics didn't turn out well at all.
I had some goofy setting wrong on my camera.
Oh well . .

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Nemo14

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I would say your instincts are dead on, Betty. I know it's hard for Dave, who of course loves his sister but it sounds to me like something must be done.

Poor wee doggie...any chance you could take him?

I wish we could, but we have 3 cats and a dog already in our tiny little house, so I don't think it would work. DD was really upset about it last night and wanted to bring the dog home with us, and to tell you the truth I haven't totally ruled it out - just not sure how we'd be able to do it.
 

PotteryGal

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I know, and she's not my sister so I know it's easier for me to see, and harder for me to excuse. But I do think I'm right this time, I'm just not sure what we can do about it.....

Ultimately, she will be the one to do something about it. I do know what you mean about seeing things more clearly....Mike's family....sigh. Alcoholism is a disease, but it begins with a choice to pick up that first drink. I'm sure Dave is struggling right now, so ((Hugs)) for you both.

See, she's retired from the Navy, but certainly young enough to be doing something productive. But she doesn't work, doesn't volunteer anywhere, rarely even goes to the nursing home anymore, even though she lives much closer than the rest of us do. But she always has excuses for not doing anything -

Sounds like chronic depression - and believe me I have struggled with that. Being involved with the PTG has been good for me that way, I felt more productive. Counters those down days I have worrying about Joel's future. But back to the topic at hand....has she anyone she can talk to? A counselor?
 

Nemo14

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Ultimately, she will be the one to do something about it. I do know what you mean about seeing things more clearly....Mike's family....sigh. Alcoholism is a disease, but it begins with a choice to pick up that first drink. I'm sure Dave is struggling right now, so ((Hugs)) for you both.



Sounds like chronic depression - and believe me I have struggled with that. Being involved with the PTG has been good for me that way, I felt more productive. Counters those down days I have worrying about Joel's future. But back to the topic at hand....has she anyone she can talk to? A counselor?
I would assume that since she's a retired officer that there would be someone on base that she could see...... The thing is she has to admit that she needs help first, and I'm not sure that's going to happen without a little "tough love" which isn't the forte of the family.
 

Nemo14

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So, we had to pick up some dear friends of ours from the airport today. They were in FL for a week house-hunting. I hate to see them go, but I'm sooooexcited for them too!
 

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