Sum of All Thrills Returning?

larryz

larryz

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The Empress Lilly said:
Sum is located in the EPCOT area where kids could potentially be exposed to educational content, so is avoided like the plague by Disney moms. There is nobody there so the low throughput actually doesn't create too long lines for the guest.

I realise this is argued from the perspective of guest enjoyment and not ops and so has no bearing on reality.
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I rode it once, minutes after entering Epcot. There was a 5-minute wait when I got in line. It was a 40-minute wait by the time I got off the ride.
 
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doctornick

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Corylancaster said:
It may have low throughput, but that is still better than the no throughput it has while closed...
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This. also since Disney basically never promoted it at all, there was very low guest awareness that it even existed. That tended to keep the waits to be more manageable since relatively few guests even did it.
 
Pi on my Cake

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doctornick said:
This. also since Disney basically never promoted it at all, there was very low guest awareness that it even existed. That tended to keep the waits to be more manageable since relatively few guests even did it.
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Yet even with all of that, it had wait times as loong as Soarin any time I rode it. It had capacity too terrible to exist in Epcot. It was amazing, but it needed at the very least twice as many arms.
 
Aries1975

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Pionmycake said:
Yet even with all of that, it had wait times as loong as Soarin any time I rode it. It had capacity too terrible to exist in Epcot. It was amazing, but it needed at the very least twice as many arms.
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My kids and husband were terribly disappointed "Sum of All Thrills" was not open during our trip in July. I tried to warn them, but they needed to see for themselves. They would have rather designed and rode their own coasters than do either Mission : Space or Test Track. It was definitely one of the last pieces of "edutainment" (physics).

The Empress Lilly said:
Sum is located in the EPCOT area where kids could potentially be exposed to educational content, so is avoided like the plague by Disney moms. There is nobody there so the low throughput actually doesn't create too long lines for the guest.
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I must be a terrible "Disney mom," because I expect (note present tense) my kids to learn stuff in Epcot. Over the years, we have done the piggy bank, the velcro, what state grows what food, UL testing labs, the Pumba safety and even the crazy healthy "superhero" thing. Some days, little kids just need an air-conditioned place to climb a fire truck. And sometimes, even Mom learns something like apparently NJ uses all of their tomatoes (maybe makes Campbell's tomato soup with them), but exports berries.

One of the best surprises of our last trip a malfunction on Living with the Land. The slower ride through the greenhouse gave us a better opportunity to see everything. Then, after we were evacuated from the boat, we escorted through the remainder of the ride. My kids asked a lot of questions from a very knowledgeable CM named Laura. We got a mini behind the seeds tour.
 
zombiebbq

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Aries1975 said:
My kids and husband were terribly disappointed "Sum of All Thrills" was not open during our trip in July. I tried to warn them, but they needed to see for themselves. They would have rather designed and rode their own coasters than do either Mission : Space or Test Track. It was definitely one of the last pieces of "edutainment" (physics).



I must be a terrible "Disney mom," because I expect (note present tense) my kids to learn stuff in Epcot. Over the years, we have done the piggy bank, the velcro, what state grows what food, UL testing labs, the Pumba safety and even the crazy healthy "superhero" thing. Some days, little kids just need an air-conditioned place to climb a fire truck. And sometimes, even Mom learns something like apparently NJ uses all of their tomatoes (maybe makes Campbell's tomato soup with them), but exports berries.

One of the best surprises of our last trip a malfunction on Living with the Land. The slower ride through the greenhouse gave us a better opportunity to see everything. Then, after we were evacuated from the boat, we escorted through the remainder of the ride. My kids asked a lot of questions from a very knowledgeable CM named Laura. We got a mini behind the seeds tour.
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Then do the Behind the Seeds tour! you get to see it all! I loved it.
 
DreamfinderGuy

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Apologies on contributing to the bumping of an ancient thread, but it doesn’t seem like many “Current Status” SOAT photos have leaked. Allow me to fix that.
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Place is still intact, for better or for worse
 
MickeyMouse10

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I would love to see a section of Futureworld set aside, for things accumulated by the Collector from "Guardians". Sum of All Thrills could be one of the items. Wall-E, Stitch and Dreamfinder could be in three of the prisoner boxes as well.
 
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rreading

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DreamfinderGuy said:
Apologies on contributing to the bumping of an ancient thread, but it doesn’t seem like many “Current Status” SOAT photos have leaked. Allow me to fix that.
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Place is still intact, for better or for worse
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I don't really get this.... Forgive my ignorance, but if the apparatus is there, and all that they need to do is to staff it, then why close the attraction? I suppose that the software to produce the "track" may have been proprietary to Raytheon and that WDW didn't want to purchase it; and/or they didn't want to pay to produce a new video which didn't allude to Raytheon; or that they didn't want to pay to remove the Raytheon sign but it seems such a waste for it to be there unused.
 
DreamfinderGuy

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rreading said:
I don't really get this.... Forgive my ignorance, but if the apparatus is there, and all that they need to do is to staff it, then why close the attraction? I suppose that the software to produce the "track" may have been proprietary to Raytheon and that WDW didn't want to purchase it; and/or they didn't want to pay to produce a new video which didn't allude to Raytheon; or that they didn't want to pay to remove the Raytheon sign but it seems such a waste for it to be there unused.
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They'd have to refresh it all, since I think SOAT is a Raytheon trademark (Don't quote me there). Too much work to do with little to no ROI
 
rreading

rreading

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DreamfinderGuy said:
They'd have to refresh it all, since I think SOAT is a Raytheon trademark (Don't quote me there). Too much work to do with little to no ROI
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ROI is tricky since there's little ROI on many things that are useful to have a well-rounded park - I doubt that there's going to be much of a ROI in the new movie/show in the Land pavilion but I'm glad they're making it. I expect that they simply don't intend it to be part of Epcot moving forward, so why bother. My kids definitely enjoyed it and were disappointed to find it closing, and it was a welcome activity in a park that doesn't have a surfeit of activities.
 
marni1971

marni1971

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rreading said:
I don't really get this.... Forgive my ignorance, but if the apparatus is there, and all that they need to do is to staff it, then why close the attraction? I suppose that the software to produce the "track" may have been proprietary to Raytheon and that WDW didn't want to purchase it; and/or they didn't want to pay to produce a new video which didn't allude to Raytheon; or that they didn't want to pay to remove the Raytheon sign but it seems such a waste for it to be there unused.
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Running costs. Staff. Maintenance.

Why the sea cabs of Living Seas were perfectly functional but walled off for years. Despite the really bad show that produced.
 
TJJohn12

TJJohn12

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The last time I was in Innoventions was to see Colortopia, and it was very bad show to have so much peeking out from behind walls. It was a space where even a casual guest could see the “abandoned dead mall” beyond the construction walls. Opening SOAT would have been about the same - a wander past a half dozen dead “storefronts” that scream decay.
 

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