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mrerk

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Every time this subject comes up I am reminded of this story:

This is from an old story, back in the '30s, in the days when an ice cream sundae cost much less. A 10 year-old boy entered a hotel coffee shop and sat at a table. A waitress put a glass of water in front of him.

"How much is an ice cream sundae?" the little boy asked.

"Fifty cents," replied the waitress.

The little boy pulled his hand out of his pocket and studied the coins he had. "Well, how much is a plain dish of ice cream?" he inquired.

By now, more people were waiting for a table and the waitress was growing very impatient. "Thirty-five cents," she brusquely replied.

The little boy again counted his coins. "I'll have the plain ice cream," he said.

The waitress brought the ice cream, put the bill on the table and walked away. The boy finished the ice cream, paid the cashier and left. When the waitress came back, she began to cry. As she wiped down the table, there placed neatly beside the empty dish were two nickels and five pennies. You see, he couldn't have the sundae because he had to have enough money to leave her a tip.

Think about that when you dine out at your favorite restaurant.
 

Huglife

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15-20% seems to be standard... to automatically average those numbers to 18 % would be incorrect.


http://www.travelsense.org/tips/tippingetiquette.cfm
RESTAURANT TIPPING ETIQUETTE

Although excellent service calls for 20 percent of the total bill, most U.S. restaurants accept 15 percent as the standard tip.​
http://www.itipping.com/tip-average-restaurant.htm

What's an Average Tip?
Survey respondents average a 15-20% tip​

http://www.essortment.com/much-tip-restaurant-30716.html
Tipping 15% in restaurants has been standard in American culture for many years. Here's how to determine if you should tip more or less than that standard.​

http://blog.hotelclub.com/restaurant-tipping-standards/

The standard tip is around 10% for a lunch and anywhere from 15-20% for a dinner – lower for average service and higher for superb service.​

There are plenty of websites with different opinions. Most say 15%-20%, yes, therefore 15% would be for satisfactory service, which I rarely get at Disney. I get great service. My all means if your server isn't up to par tip 15%, but a good server should get at least 18%. Also, by no means should anyone ever tip 10% for any meal, and no one should read some random blog to learn how to tip.
 

draybook

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Every time this subject comes up I am reminded of this story:

This is from an old story, back in the '30s, in the days when an ice cream sundae cost much less. A 10 year-old boy entered a hotel coffee shop and sat at a table. A waitress put a glass of water in front of him.

"How much is an ice cream sundae?" the little boy asked.

"Fifty cents," replied the waitress.

The little boy pulled his hand out of his pocket and studied the coins he had. "Well, how much is a plain dish of ice cream?" he inquired.

By now, more people were waiting for a table and the waitress was growing very impatient. "Thirty-five cents," she brusquely replied.

The little boy again counted his coins. "I'll have the plain ice cream," he said.

The waitress brought the ice cream, put the bill on the table and walked away. The boy finished the ice cream, paid the cashier and left. When the waitress came back, she began to cry. As she wiped down the table, there placed neatly beside the empty dish were two nickels and five pennies. You see, he couldn't have the sundae because he had to have enough money to leave her a tip.

Think about that when you dine out at your favorite restaurant.


Neat story. I wish I had heard that one back when I was working for tips and getting less than 18% even though my service was quick. Cool story though, almost brought a tear to my eye....



And I don't go by percentages, because what happens when Disney starts charging $50 per person at a regular sit down meal? Are you going to keep shoveling out 18-20% because some blog/forum/person says so? Hey, it's your right to do what you want. Same goes for me. The environment is different then what I can get here, but the service is the same I get at Outback or Chili's.
 

worldfanatic

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And why should I feel guilty?
why should I feel guilty about not tipping a ridiculous amount on overpriced food?

I think you already do feel guilty.

I would suggest next time you take the resort discount and order pizza.

Good advice!
If you aren't willing to tip properly, don't eat with the big kids. Overpriced or not.


Bro, I'm not sure what you we're trying to accomplish with this thread.
Perhaps hoping some other cheap fools would agree with you and ease your guilt.
As usual, some will.


But what you did accomplish is showing what a low-end person you are.

Congrats!!!:wave:
Now go to Universal...................you're not Disney worthy.
 

Uncle Lupe

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There are plenty of websites with different opinions. Most say 15%-20%, yes, therefore 15% would be for satisfactory service, which I rarely get at Disney. I get great service. My all means if your server isn't up to par tip 15%, but a good server should get at least 18%. Also, by no means should anyone ever tip 10% for any meal, and no one should read some random blog to learn how to tip.

Why would you award bad service with a tip? I had a table meal (not at Disney) where we didn't even get drinks until after our entrée arrived at which point we received our silver wear to enjoy our appetizer. I did not tip that night, that would be like saying, here you suck at your job here is a bonus for making my night out horrible.
 

draybook

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I think you already do feel guilty.



Good advice!
If you aren't willing to tip properly, don't eat with the big kids. Overpriced or not.


Bro, I'm not sure what you we're trying to accomplish with this thread.
Perhaps hoping some other cheap fools would agree with you and ease your guilt.
As usual, some will.


But what you did accomplish is showing what a low-end person you are.

Congrats!!!:wave:
Now go to Universal...................you're not Disney worthy.



Actually bro, I was asking an honest question. I saw plenty of folks putting out $5 bills at their dinners, so I know I'm not alone. I feel bad for the servers, because Disney is setting them up for failure by jacking up the food prices, thus making regular food seem magical and thus demanding a higher tip. I know the feeling because when I worked valet parking at Fitzgerald's in Tunica, they built a parking garage right in the front so it tanked our already paltry tips.

And I'll tell you what else, this low-end person served this country proudly so that fat mouthed punks like you could run your gums on the internet while trying to make yourself feel better. If you have a problem with me personally then just let me know via PM and we can work it out, bro.






I will say that I'd be really interested in hearing from anyone that's been a server at WDW. I'd love to hear that side of the story, as far as what the average server makes. All of my Googling leads to older information.
 

hajenga

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Always wondered why a server who worked a restaraunt that charged more for food deserved more of a tip. Does the waitress(waiter) / bus person ect. who serves you a meal that costs $50 deserve less than those who serve you a $100 dollar meal? If so, why? :confused:
 

yankspy

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Always wondered why a server who worked a restaraunt that charged more for food deserved more of a tip. Does the waitress(waiter) / bus person ect. who serves you a meal that costs $50 deserve less than those who serve you a $100 dollar meal? If so, why? :confused:

Servers at higher end restaurants will generally have more experience so think of it as being served by a pro.

I am a little amazed at how some people who are getting free dining are still not tipping the norm.
 
I am a little amazed at how some people who are getting free dining are still not tipping the norm.

I actually felt horrible on our last trip because after having the FD promo I left a restaurant and forgot to leave a tip and felt like a cheap***. That'll happen when you are arguing with your kids who both want to leave and do two separate things at the same time. :( But as soon as I realized I went back and was luckily able to have the hostess call the server back out front so I could tip her. She was soooooo nice about it.
 

draybook

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Servers at higher end restaurants will generally have more experience so think of it as being served by a pro.

I am a little amazed at how some people who are getting free dining are still not tipping the norm.


#1- From what I've read, turnover is high and many of the foreign workers that come over on the Disney exchange program thing are only here less than a year, so I wouldn't figure experience into this.

#2- What is "the norm"? Is this food different than what you can get at home? Do the waiters where you live not perform the same functions as those at WDW?

This is why I started this thread. It wasn't to argue, I was just seeing what the spectrum of tippers looked like. What's normal to me might not be normal to you. However, I don't feel that Disney jacking up the price means I have to leave a tip that's ridiculously high compared to what I'm actually getting. The only two differences between Disney and home is that Olive Garden isn't inside a theme park and they also don't charge $225 for three steaks and some fettuccine.
 

yankspy

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#1- From what I've read, turnover is high and many of the foreign workers that come over on the Disney exchange program thing are only here less than a year, so I wouldn't figure experience into this.

#2- What is "the norm"? Is this food different than what you can get at home? Do the waiters where you live not perform the same functions as those at WDW?

This is why I started this thread. It wasn't to argue, I was just seeing what the spectrum of tippers looked like. What's normal to me might not be normal to you. However, I don't feel that Disney jacking up the price means I have to leave a tip that's ridiculously high compared to what I'm actually getting. The only two differences between Disney and home is that Olive Garden isn't inside a theme park and they also don't charge $225 for three steaks and some fettuccine.

Disney may be the exception as far as the first point.

The norm is 15-20%. Disney may be overpriced for you but I live near the city so their prices do not seem all that high.

While Disney food is not always a gourmet experience, I would put it above "Olive Garden".
 

Dwarful

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I wasn't going to jump into this discussion...but am now throwing caution to the wind. Tipping at Disney can be very challenging for families for several reasons. For me the biggest 'hit' is when we go in the summer due to schedules this is pretty much the only time we can all go as a family. Disney usually hits us up for 'seasonal pricing'...meaning they jack up the already crazy prices to beyond crazy prices. IF we are dining at a buffet and paying almost $40 a person for buffet meal...usually to see the characters, we are not getting a normal $40 meal...we are getting the characters and the Golden Corral. For our group of 5 that would be about $200 and roughly $36.00 tip. The waitstaff is going to really have to impress me to get me to pay the cost of one meal as a tip for an inflated buffet.

Now, we had a great server at 50's Prime Time on one trip when we were all wearing our U of I shirts...the server was really great over the top, kept our drinks full from the get go, took photos when we asked...really made the meal a lot of fun...However that bill was actually cheaper because not everyone in our group ordered desserts, some had ice water not soda, and we were there for lunch not dinner so prices were lower. That waiter worked much harder than our buffet waittress did and we tipped accordingly.

I do hate that they add that tip info on the bottom of the receipt because I always feel like some waitstaff feel that is what they are entitled to regardless of the work they have done. We have had great service, good service, ok service and service so horrible I spoke to a manager before leaving at various locations at WDW. Just because we are wdw doesn't automatically mean everything is pixie dust and magic. I think this would be more so the case if you were there on free dining times. The regular plan already has dumbed down the dining experiences at WDW...I can only imagine some of the problems you might encounter during the free dining time.
 

draybook

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Disney may be the exception as far as the first point.

The norm is 15-20%. Disney may be overpriced for you but I live near the city so their prices do not seem all that high.

While Disney food is not always a gourmet experience, I would put it above "Olive Garden".



Gee, I forgot we're just bumpkins down here in Memphis. What qualifies as "the city"? And granted, the finest meal we've had on property was the CG, but I would hardly call that steak above any other steak I've had. Actually, the steak I've had at Texas Roadhouse was just as good if not better as well as cheaper. Dressing the plate up all fancy like(bumpkin talk) doesn't make the food any better.
 
I do hate that they add that tip info on the bottom of the receipt because I always feel like some waitstaff feel that is what they are entitled to regardless of the work they have done.

Always bothered me too. :( But I do tip the right amount if the service is good. Nothing if the service is bad.

This is why I started this thread. It wasn't to argue,

But you should have expected that. ;) I have had many comments of mine here torn apart, ripped up, twisted around to something I did not say, and then used against me. LOL It is always funny to me to see it take shape but then again, I find people's arrogance and ignorance hilarious. Don't let the comments get to you. There are some people here that love to start arguments. They may not like something you say but instead of letting you say it they will attack. :) The thing is, you could have said "I hate tipping and think tipping is a bad idea that should be done away with." and they should have let it let it go but that isn't what happens here. LOL For instance my comments here will probably get turned around to make it seem like I hate puppies. LOL
 
Indeed, I expected some of the local "holier than thou" folks to come out.

True. Like my dad always said when the toilet backed up "Son, sometimes you're gonna get a little **** on ya." ;)

I see what you're saying, and I see what everyone else is saying. Everyone needs to realize that tips are not mandatory. While I do tip each and every time (heck, I even tip the woman that cuts my hair) I can see why some people do not tip. It is a personal preference. :D
 

draybook

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Yeah, we always tip a waiter. I just can't justify tipping $25+ each meal, especially at buffets.
 

yankspy

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Gee, I forgot we're just bumpkins down here in Memphis. What qualifies as "the city"? And granted, the finest meal we've had on property was the CG, but I would hardly call that steak above any other steak I've had. Actually, the steak I've had at Texas Roadhouse was just as good if not better as well as cheaper. Dressing the plate up all fancy like(bumpkin talk) doesn't make the food any better.

I was not calling you a bumpkin. I was simply saying that prices are generally higher in bigger cities. It's a fact. Memphis is a fine city, but it is a cheaper place to live than most cities from the Mid-Atlantic to New England.

As far as the steak you had at Texas Roadhouse, I am pretty sure you did not have the same atmosphere. When you eat at higher end restaurants, you are paying for more than food. You are paying for fancy Decor and in most cases, a premium piece of real estate. It's more of an experience at CG as opposed to Texas Roadhouse which is just a place to grab a bite.
 

draybook

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Yes, and according to everyone here, tips are based on service. So, if I'm getting the same service then why the bigger tip? And I already covered the difference in atmosphere. You know who the waiters should be mad at, Disney. Disney is the one that jacked up food prices, which in turn makes the "suggested tip" bigger. I never told the server that I was a walking money bag, Disney did.


And Memphis is a craphole, but I'm from Los Angeles.
 
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