Studio Backlot Tour Closing on September 27, 2014

englanddg

englanddg

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Next Big Thing said:
That's my point, you should never have to wait for show times in order to fill out a day. You should have many choices rather than being limited to waiting for one specific show time in order to stay longer.

I know if you do EVERYTHING at DHS, it can be a full day experience, but most people don't. The majority of people want to ride rides, they don't want to sit and watch a bad stage adaptation of BATB (that's been staged for 20+ years now) or a puppet-ed version of TLM which CLEARLY by the grainy video footage hasn't been updated since opening.

Point is, People want rides. Shows are nice people eaters. Indiana Jones is still a great show and i'll go to bat for it. However, when there are more shows than actual rides in a park, there's a problem.
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I'd support this mentality.

Also...TSMM isn't worth the wait. I've done it...twice.

Once at DL and once at HS.

I have no intention to do it again. It's a video game with a moving chair and a large screen.

Nice ride, crappy E-Ticket.
 
PhotoDave219

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Next Big Thing said:
That's my point, you should never have to wait for show times in order to fill out a day. You should have many choices rather than being limited to waiting for one specific show time in order to stay longer.

I know if you do EVERYTHING at DHS, it can be a full day experience, but most people don't. The majority of people want to ride rides, they don't want to sit and watch a bad stage adaptation of BATB (that's been staged for 20+ years now) or a puppet-ed version of TLM which CLEARLY by the grainy video footage hasn't been updated since opening.

Point is, People want rides. Shows are nice people eaters. Indiana Jones is still a great show and i'll go to bat for it. However, when there are more shows than actual rides in a park, there's a problem.
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We shouldn't have to schedule anything.
 
Next Big Thing

Next Big Thing

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PhotoDave219 said:
We shouldn't have to schedule anything.
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Exactly my point. In order to spend a whole day at DHS, scheduling out every show time down to the minute and making sure you have your FP+ reservations set is pretty much necessary.

I'd much rather go to MK or Epcot (or even DAK as I just like the atmosphere) and take things as they come. At MK, there are enough things to do that you'll never be stuck without options. At Epcot, there's less rides, but there's a lot to see and experience. Even at DAK I feel there's more to see and experience.

DHS just feels like the commando park. Get everything done as quick as possible and get the hell out. That's a VERY bad thing for Disney, as most of those types of guests aren't spending any money outside of tickets.
 
juniorthomas

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Next Big Thing said:
Exactly my point. In order to spend a whole day at DHS, scheduling out every show time down to the minute and making sure you have your FP+ reservations set is pretty much necessary.

I'd much rather go to MK or Epcot (or even DAK as I just like the atmosphere) and take things as they come. At MK, there are enough things to do that you'll never be stuck without options. At Epcot, there's less rides, but there's a lot to see and experience. Even at DAK I feel there's more to see and experience.

DHS just feels like the commando park. Get everything done as quick as possible and get the hell out. That's a VERY bad thing for Disney, as most of those types of guests aren't spending any money outside of tickets.
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Well yes, but I feel like most of the attractions there, either by design or not, are less aimed at a all-encompassing experience. That is to say, if you're 17 and you don't mind riding a few rides over and over again, you'll enjoy DHS. Or if you enjoy simply watching a few shows all day long, you'll enjoy DHS.

DHS has a niche, just as the other parks do. For me, DAK is my commando park. Not enough for a full day, so get in and get out. As for money, I think people are going to spend money at any park.
 
NewfieFan

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Next Big Thing said:
Exactly my point. In order to spend a whole day at DHS, scheduling out every show time down to the minute and making sure you have your FP+ reservations set is pretty much necessary.

I'd much rather go to MK or Epcot (or even DAK as I just like the atmosphere) and take things as they come. At MK, there are enough things to do that you'll never be stuck without options. At Epcot, there's less rides, but there's a lot to see and experience. Even at DAK I feel there's more to see and experience.

DHS just feels like the commando park. Get everything done as quick as possible and get the hell out. That's a VERY bad thing for Disney, as most of those types of guests aren't spending any money outside of tickets.
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I never thought of it this way but this is exactly how we tour that park. Schedule everything and get in and out! There's no relaxing rides or areas where I can just sit and hang out and enjoy the ambiance. Maybe that's why this is my least favorite park. AK is severely lacking with it's attraction line-up but I think it scores points for ambiance. There's so many areas in AK to "discover", trails to walk, animal exhibits to pause at, etc. I feel like I can enjoy AK even if I don't have a scheduled FP+ or show coming up. I also find the shows at AK have more "re-ride" ability for us. That may be personal taste and preference but I can watch FoTLK and the Nemo musical many times over the course of our trips and not feel bored with them. But there's only so many times I can watch BatB and LMA and even Indy.

I am hoping with some of these new additions (if they are indeed coming) that they will start to change the feel of the park for me.
 
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djkidkaz

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I'm thinking they could shutter GMR and use that building as part of a Pixar expansion. They could always reroute the entrance to the building to the back side so it is near Pixar place.
 
TomHendricks

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Say they keep LMA, could they keep Catastrophe Canyon and rase the rest of BLT? They would have to reroute how you got to CC, maybe make it part of LMA.
 
flynnibus

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Stevek said:
I never experienced the original version, only the current version which left me completely underwhelmed. Have no issues with them getting rid of it especially if it signals something big and new on the horizon. Of course, depends on exactly what that is. Hoping it's not toy story playland
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Even the original wasn't great. It reeked of being a copycat right from the start... because it was. It was interesting, but not mindblowing. It's why they had start making changes almost right from the beginning to allow people to bail part of the way through, etc. My most vivid memory from the early days is when they were working on Lion King there.. and I was like 'who wants to watch a movie about african lions' :) Of course even back then the animation rooms were empty.. just drawings lying around, etc.

Decades later when they never bothered cleaning up the heat/burn marks on the effects, changed almost nothing, removed all actual production... the whole thing just became a farce.
 
flynnibus

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Next Big Thing said:
Point is, People want rides. Shows are nice people eaters. Indiana Jones is still a great show and i'll go to bat for it. However, when there are more shows than actual rides in a park, there's a problem.
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You started off ok... but then with this statement you showed your true colors.

You can have an experience dominated by shows - the problem is you can't keep showing the same shows for 20 years and expect people to want to keep watching them. The shows lack repeat-ability for more frequent customers vs a ride.

I like watching the voyage of the little mermaid each visit... but I also don't go 3-4 times a year.
 
JohnD

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Going back to the main theme of the thread, by my 10/19-25 trip, I'm now *OL for both Maelstrom and BLT (and various acts around Epcot too). Good thing I rode those rides within the last year.
 
JohnD

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NewfieFan said:
I never thought of it this way but this is exactly how we tour that park. Schedule everything and get in and out! There's no relaxing rides or areas where I can just sit and hang out and enjoy the ambiance. Maybe that's why this is my least favorite park. AK is severely lacking with it's attraction line-up but I think it scores points for ambiance. There's so many areas in AK to "discover", trails to walk, animal exhibits to pause at, etc. I feel like I can enjoy AK even if I don't have a scheduled FP+ or show coming up. I also find the shows at AK have more "re-ride" ability for us. That may be personal taste and preference but I can watch FoTLK and the Nemo musical many times over the course of our trips and not feel bored with them. But there's only so many times I can watch BatB and LMA and even Indy.

I am hoping with some of these new additions (if they are indeed coming) that they will start to change the feel of the park for me.
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Even before the BLT closure, for my HS day on 10/21, I was thinking of making it a half-day park anyway. Do rides in the morning, lunch at 50s Prime Time, then PH to Epcot for F&W festival. Otherwise, the latter half of the day would be just the shows at HS which I've already seen. I'm also doing various behind the scenes tours on my other Epcot days so want to make up the time for F&W festival.
 
tl77

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G00fyDad said:
Would they really take out those buildings at the top of the shaded portion? Don't they use those for wardrobe repair and float/prop storage?
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They could just relocate they the wardrobe/prop buildings, and behind them is the practice area for Lights Motors Action
 
GiveMeTheMusic

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Hockey89 said:
How many times can one person see Indiana Jones? I can't believe they have not changed it or did something....
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I still enjoy Indy, but I only see it once every decade or so. The fact that that is still an option is mind-blowing to me.

Shows and parades don't have a multi-decade shelf life; they just don't. That WDW sees fit to present their overpaying guests with shows and parades that haven't been touched in DECADES is mind-blowing. DHS is the worst offender with BATB, Mermaid and Indy pushing 25 years, but MK is trotting out the undignified remains of a 42 year old parade each night. Even Epcot puts on a 15 year old pyro show. When you're the highest priced theme parks in the world, you shouldn't be subjected to entertainment that was cutting edge in 1972/1990/1999.

They should be ashamed, but they're not. WDW guests don't demand better; they're by and large enablers as we've seen with the mass excuse-making for the poorly conceived Frozen attraction. And if anyone believes a replacement for the Backlot Tour is imminent, I've got some oceanfront property in Iowa to sell to you. Shall we start taking bets now for how long the backlot will sit vacant?

Mongello actually said that making a new ride would take years and cost much more money - so what? Do it right or don't do it at all.
 

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