'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film

[CaptainAmerica]

The thing about Top Gun: Maverick is that it was very obviously the work of people intent on making a movie that was entertaining above all else.

This is the source of my hope vis-a-vis The Way of Water.

 

[erasure fan1]

When it gets deposited in to a studio's bank account, does the ticket money from a 50 year old make a different sound than the ticket money from a 20 year old?

Yea I also don't get that argument at all. Who cares if top guns audience was older? So if strange world was a big hit with the older crowd that would change something?

I'll agree with him that people don't go to the movies like they used to. People used to take more chances on movies. Now if your movie looks unappealing or bad, people skip it. So in that regard, it's changed. Plenty of movies have done well post covid.

If you think Turning Red, Luca, and Soul would have done numbers at the box office, I have a bridge to sell you.

Yea I have to agree, none of those were going to make any sort of dent theatrically.

 

[mickEblu]

The thing about Top Gun: Maverick is that it was very obviously the work of people intent on making a movie that was entertaining above all else.

It’s so obvious people just want that again. Maverick had a pretty diverse cast too but you can always tell what’s being prioritized behind the scenes.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Yea I have to agree, none of those were going to make any sort of dent theatrically.

Luca probably had the best chance, since it had more cross-generational appeal. Soul was an adult movie that kids didn't appreciate, and Turning Red was a kids movie that parents find obnoxious. I don't think I've ever disliked a group of fictional children as much as those four.

 

[Consumer]

If you think Turning Red, Luca, and Soul would have done numbers at the box office, I have a bridge to sell you.

Turning Red was doomed to fail. Its audience is horribly narrow, being designed almost exclusively for Asian girls. On top of that, part of the premise revolves around the preteen protagonist turning into a red panda (a metaphor for her period) and then selling pictures of herself as a red panda (is it still a metaphor for her period?). Even more, there's the weird, more explicit, sexualization of the preteen main character by making her twerk. Worst of all, it's an horrendously and offensively ugly movie to look at.

Luca had a chance to be a success. It's a much more aesthetically pleasing movie and its Italian setting is a very enjoyable place to spend your time. The movie's biggest downfall was it just wasn't very memorable. Other than Luca, I don't remember any of the characters' names and the overall character design wasn't terribly unique, suffering from the same style as Turning Red and Strange World. Probably the biggest hinderance, had Luca received a wider audience, was its subtle but noticeable homosexual undertones.

Soul, I honestly do believe, had a chance at success in theaters. It's a visually interesting movie with creative decisions, a good message, and a pleasing soundtrack. It's not as memorable as some of Pixar's earliest movies, but it still fits in with their model in a way neither Turning Red nor Luca were able to do.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Worst of all, it's an horrendously and offensively ugly movie to look at.

Seriously. WHY IS IT SO UGLY!?

 

[mickEblu]

Luca probably had the best chance, since it had more cross-generational appeal. Soul was an adult movie that kids didn't appreciate, and Turning Red was a kids movie that parents find obnoxious. I don't think I've ever disliked a group of fictional children as much as those four.

I can’t think of a Disney or Pixar movie that had a smaller target demographic than Turning Red.

 

[Consumer]

Seriously. WHY IS IT SO UGLY!?

Because we live in a cynical world where beauty is despised and the hideous is adored.

 

[erasure fan1]

Soul, I honestly do believe, had a chance at success in theaters. It's a visually interesting movie with creative decisions, a good message, and a pleasing soundtrack

I think it would have struggled because it felt half baked in my opinion. It wasn't bad, it wasn't great, it was just a lesson in mediocrity. It just felt like they were going through the motions.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I can’t think of a Disney or Pixar movie that had a smaller target demographic than Turning Red.

Childless Chinese-Canadian women between the ages of 32-35 is not a recipe for box office success?

Which raises probably the film's worst sin, and that's the "Junior Knows Best" trope. Parent's are stodgy old losers, stuck in the past, refusing to get with the times, and their kids need to enlighten them on all that is right and progressive.

 

[mickEblu]

Turning Red was doomed to fail. Its audience is horribly narrow, being designed almost exclusively for Asian girls. On top of that, part of the premise revolves around the preteen protagonist turning into a red panda (a metaphor for her period) and then selling pictures of herself as a red panda (is it still a metaphor for her period?). Even more, there's the weird, more explicit, sexualization of the preteen main character by making her twerk. Worst of all, it's an horrendously and offensively ugly movie to look at.

Luca had a chance to be a success. It's a much more aesthetically pleasing movie and its Italian setting is a very enjoyable place to spend your time. The movie's biggest downfall was it just wasn't very memorable. Other than Luca, I don't remember any of the characters' names and the overall character design wasn't terribly unique, suffering from the same style as Turning Red and Strange World. Probably the biggest hinderance, had Luca received a wider audience, was its subtle but noticeable homosexual undertones.

Soul, I honestly do believe, had a chance at success in theaters. It's a visually interesting movie with creative decisions, a good message, and a pleasing soundtrack. It's not as memorable as some of Pixar's earliest movies, but it still fits in with their model in a way neither Turning Red nor Luca were able to do.

Completely agree with everything here ^^^

Where were you when I was on an island being attacked for having that same opinion on Turning Red in the DL forum?

Have the same take on Luca and Soul as you do too. Luca was boring and unmemorable but the setting was appealing. Being half a Italian I should have liked it a lot more. Some of the easter eggs were nice like the Scopa cards (Italian playing cards) I used it play with my grandparents and some of the songs. You know what’s funny? I was mad we didn’t hear any Italian accents. But you know that would be “cultural appropriation” even though not one Italian would complain.

Soul was solid. Not in the top half of my favorite Pixar movies but straight to Disney + in the middle of the pandemic it worked. Nice soundtrack and it just has a nice tone.

 

[TwilightZone]

Seriously. WHY IS IT SO UGLY!?

Its the backgrounds. They don't have the usual look of a pixar or Disney animated film. I think they were trying to go for maybe a chalk or watercolor look, but made them too pastel and still kept the characters semi realistic. None of it really matches together. And this is from someone who considers themselves a Turning Red apologist.

 

[mickEblu]

Its the backgrounds. They don't have the usual look of a pixar or Disney animated film. I think they were trying to go for maybe a chalk or watercolor look, but made them too pastel and still kept the characters semi realistic. None of it really matches together. And this is from someone who considers themselves a Turning Red apologist.

But but so many boxes are checked

 

[mickEblu]

And notice how if you’re White you have be the Gay one. Because otherwise you’re not a box being checked. I hate how telegraphed it all is.

 

[Consumer]

Its the backgrounds. They don't have the usual look of a pixar or Disney animated film. I think they were trying to go for maybe a chalk or watercolor look, but made them too pastel and still kept the characters semi realistic. None of it really matches together. And this is from someone who considers themselves a Turning Red apologist.

Neat, but that doesn't quite explain whatever this is.

 

[TwilightZone]

Here's a good example of the stylism I think Pixar tried to do with Turning Red done right.

Closing Blue Sky is probably one of the worst mistakes Disney has done in recent memory.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I for one will watch Strange World when it goes to D+ and I will not go to the movie theater to watch it.
How many folks have the same opinion I wonder?

 

[TwilightZone]

I for one will watch Strange World when it goes to D+ and I will not go to the movie theater to watch it.
How many folks have the same opinion I wonder?

A lot. I have gotten one or two comments like that since I have originally uploaded that reddit comment I talked about earlier. Might have second life there, but IDK. It all depends on if Disney does effort advertising it there.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I think it would have struggled because it felt half baked in my opinion. It wasn't bad, it wasn't great, it was just a lesson in mediocrity. It just felt like they were going through the motions.

Soul was so close, I love 99% of this movie but the ending misses for me every time I watch it, had he chosen to go on, based on his new realization that his life was pretty amazing, I think it would have been nearly perfect.

Despite the ending I still watch it probably once a year, I’m a grumpy old man and sometimes I need a reminder that I’m extremely blessed, Soul does a great job of reminding me to focus on the positive rather than the negative.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Gong to a theater to watch a movie is so pre pandemic.