TwilightZone
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Minions and Top Gun would love to meet you.
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'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film
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Disney Irish
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And that is Disney's hope, that if you don't see it in theaters that you see it on D+.
Because for all those that think that Disney's strategy on D+ is changing now that Iger is back is mistaken. Iger basically just reaffirmed Disney's strategy with D+ and DTC in his town hall with CMs today. His goal is to make sure its profitable, ie Daddy Iger will be opening the wallet to make sure it had what it needs to be profitable.
CaptainAmerica
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No, that's exactly the opposite of what he's doing. Getting it profitable mean's spending less, i.e. the wallet has been open and now it's closing.
Disney Irish
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As I said in the other post, I disagree but you read into what you will.
Communicora
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See, I loved the backgrounds. I still enjoyed the movie, but the character design was a turn off. The people look like fan art on tumblr with their red noses and bean mouths. No thank you. Strange World had a similarly unappealing and, dare I say, not very Disney, character design.
Vegas Disney Fan
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I’d love to see their internal data on how releasing movies on D+ so early impacts D+ subscriptions, maybe I’m the anomaly because the theatrical release window going to 6 months wouldn’t affect my decision to get or keep D+ at all, I pay primarily for the new series and the catalog, not for quick access to theatrical movies.
It just seems odd to sacrifice box office when I don’t think it’s necessary. If I were Iger I’d go back to the old Blu-ray release schedule and see how that affects box office vs D+ subscriptions, even if they could just break even on production it would make more sense.
CaptainAmerica
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Which is a huge bummer because the environments in Strange World are gorgeous. It was a rare example of a movie that had me hyped from the teasers and then when the characters started speaking in the full trailer, I completely checked out. Felt like a bad 90s Saturday morning cartoon.
Disstevefan1
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SCOREBOARD: Thats two non-Disney movies folks will show up for VS. (fill in the blank) number of Disney movies folks would show up for. I am thinking zero for Disney.
I for one will be watching both Minions and Top Gun on streaming at home.
The money I save on Gas+tickets+concessions is a lot. Not to mention the comfort of watching at home.
TwilightZone
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The cringey dialogue seems to be a large point of contention. If the average person doesn't like the dialogue, there's something wrong.
Ghost93
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I think for me the biggest problem of Strange World is the lack of solid worldbuilding. I don't think the movie did a good enough job establishing what Avalonia or Pando is like and how the world functions and what is really at stake. While the "Strange World" had interesting designs, I didn't care about anything happening related to the plot. I found the Clade family dynamic midly interesting, but not interesting enough to carry a lackluster story.
The dialogue is a problem I've had with most of Disney movies lately. Too modern. Whether it's Maui joking about "Tweeting" in Moana or the endless anachronisms in Raya and the Last Dragon, I feel recent Disney movies have been lacking dialogue that feels "timeless."
CaptainAmerica
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"Don't know if I'm elated or gassy, but I'm somewhere in that zone."
She's Just Like You and Me
Really? Since it was marketed almost exclusively to Italian mer-boys?
The canard of "people can't relate because they're not exactly the same type of person" is insane. We watch movies to in order to vicariously live as others. To see ourselves in strange circumstances.
Can anyone appreciate a war movie if they've never been in the military? Can they appreciate a superhero movie if they've never had super powers? Can you appreciate Coco without being Mexican? And so on and so on...
Reminder: The animated movies released to D+ during the pandemic get high ratings from critics and viewers.
Your personal dislike doesn't mean it was awful in the eyes of everyone else.
E.g.,I despise movies with organized crime murderers as the protagonists... but I'm not going to say that "people hated The Godfather and it was awful."
Your personal dislike doesn't mean it was awful in the eyes of everyone else.
E.g.,I despise movies with organized crime murderers as the protagonists... but I'm not going to say that "people hated The Godfather and it was awful."
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
That's sort of the point, though. Nobody is making these complaints about Coco because Coco doesn't suffer from this problem.
Quality and commercial success are not the same thing. Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen was a worse movie than Frost/Nixon but which one had a better 2009?
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Extending the theatrical window is something I'm sure that will be looked at. However it'll take a couple cycles of movies to break some out of the habit of 45ish days before it hits D+. The genie is out of the bottle though, its now been programmed into the consumer that they can wait and see everything on D+ for their monthly sub.
I wouldn't even be surprised if Premier Access makes a return.
But in my option it'll be continue to make D+ domestic exclusives but lower the cost of production and open the wallet for imported content as needed. Otherwise if it was just slashing across the board for D+ to make it profitable they'd lose subs big time. Its a balancing act, lower costs while increasing ARPU while spending to maintain the subs you have.
erasure fan1
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It's something Disney is going to have to come to terms with. They've trained the audience to wait for D+. So now they need something special to get people to the theater. Anything that looks just meh, or average is going to have a rough go of it. I will squarely put myself in the wait and see category as well.
TwilightZone
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It's interesting to me because it seems like D+'s offerings are better than some of the movie offerings that go to theaters. I have heard nothing but good things about most of the marvel shows, the star wars shows, even the animated offerings seem pretty good. I am not saying it should be the other way around, but they need to put whatever love is going into those into their theatrical output too.
Not my point at all. People were declaring those movies as bad because they didn't like it. Box Office had nothing to do with my comment.
But, since you bring it up. Most of the films being called bad didn't have a wide release. And there are those who are pointing to a lack of a theatrical profit -- in which there was no wide release -- as evidence of the movie being bad. In reality, with regard to Box Office, there is a *lack* of evidence either way. There was no wide release for them.
Disstevefan1
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When Disney makes a good movie folks will go to see it.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Understood, maybe I haven't been clear (or maybe you weren't talking to me in the first place).
I am speculating that Turning Red would have done poorly at the box office even if it had been given a historically normal theatrical window and if it had premiered outside of the pandemic. I'm not pointing at any data to back this up because there's no way to prove my counter-factual. It's just a gut thing. I don't think it would have totally flopped, but I think we'd be looking at Bolt numbers.
Disney movies that do well are either funny, or have a banging soundtrack. Turning Red had neither.