'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film

[mickEblu]

Disney had no problem hiring him

Which is part of the problem. Disney needs to clean house.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Which is part of the problem. Disney needs to clean house.

It’s not a problem at all. He’s not the face of Disney.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Some of y’all are just now discovering Jaboukie Young White, and it shows. Anyone who follows him knows his material has been raunchy and for adults since he entered the business, which was at least five years ago. Disney had no problem hiring him, obviously.

And quite frankly, no one knew of the movie, let alone Jaboukie and his music. It's such a fringe minority that would be online outraged by it.

It did not move the needle at all in regards to Strange World. Just people picking at straws now.

 

[Californian Elitist]

And quite frankly, no one knew of the movie, let alone Jaboukie and his music. It's such a fringe minority that would be online outraged by it.

It did not move the needle at all in regards to Strange World. Just people picking at straws now.

Exactly. A bunch of pointless digging and likely fake concern, for what? There seems to be no interest in seeing the film, so why do you “care?” Jaboukie’s full-time gig, including whatever music video he’s done recently, is irrelevant.

 

[ILoveWDW4ever]

It did not move the needle at all in regards to Strange World. Just people picking at straws now.

In itself it probably didn’t. I agree.

However, as part of a larger whole, it just reinforces the perception of TWDC in 2022.

Which is the real issue.

 

[Californian Elitist]

In itself it probably didn’t. I agree.

However, as part of a larger whole, it just reinforces the perception of TWDC in 2022.

Which is the real issue.

The perception of, like, maybe a few thousand people. The majority of society doesn’t know, nor do they care.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Exactly. A bunch of pointless digging and likely fake concern, for what? There seems to be no interest in seeing the film, so why do you “care?” Jaboukie’s full-time gig, including whatever music video he’s done recently, is irrelevant.

Anyone remember Miley Cyrus?

So many Disney stars who went a bit wild, while still a Disney star.

 

[_caleb]

It is a critical part of their process so although on this site we are pretending these conversations aren't happening, I can assure you Disney management is getting very detailed reports on these conversations and brand impact studies, which I would have to imagine would be quite concerning.

This post comes across as condescending and ignorant of what's been discussed thus far. Nobody here is "pretending" anything. We've all been following the reviews and the box office reports for Strange World.

I'm glad some here are finally discovering Rotten Tomatoes and who Jaboukie Young-White is, but don't assume none of us know what we're talking about or that our opinions aren't informed.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Anyone remember Miley Cyrus?

So many Disney stars who went a bit wild, while still a Disney star.

I was going to mention her! She was wilding during the latter years of her Hannah Monta days.

 

[doctornick]

I know, at least for me anyway, no chance I would ever pay either of those prices. The service is barely worth the $8 that it was. The $11 isn't worth it to me. They go too long between anything substantial. So once this current month is done, so am I. Then I'll just wait until there's a few things fully out then I'll reactivate. Lather rinse repeat. The service isn't sustainable at those prices because Disney can't seem to manage a budget to save its life.

My point isn't about Disney specifically, but I don't think any streaming service is going to sustainable/profitable at $10-15 a month ads free. The only way these things last is by jumping their month subs into the $20's (in today's dollars). I do think you'll have more services drop off and/or consolidate so people will have fewer options to choose (or keep each month).

There's certainly an argument that Disney could be more efficient with their content spend, but there really is a need for a large outlay for any service to keep up enough "new" and "good" stuff to keep people subscribed consistently.

 

[WorldExplorer]

Anyone remember Miley Cyrus?

So many Disney stars who went a bit wild, while still a Disney star.

Patton Oswalt has a comedy routine where the punchline is him chloroforming kids who dress as Remy on Halloween. To add to the questionable Disney star pile.

(I've never seen a kid actually do that, but I digress.)

 

[DKampy]

Yes, this is a truly bizarre situation as people act as if it takes an archeological dig to find the conversations that are openly happening in the marketplace around the film. Just click on the Rotten Tomatoes All Audience (click on Tomatometer score to toggle to "All") and scan the comments for Minions:Rise of Gru (87% All Audience Score) and Strange World (40% All Audience Score). The comments are similar in "Verified" (those that have registered to show they bought their ticket through certain chains/sites), but "All" gives you more of sense of the broader conversation happening on review sites, Twitter, Facebook, etc.

Minions: The Rise of Gru | Rotten Tomatoes

Discover reviews, ratings, and trailers for Minions: The Rise of Gru on Rotten Tomatoes. Stay updated with critic and audience scores today!

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Strange World | Rotten Tomatoes

Discover reviews, ratings, and trailers for Strange World on Rotten Tomatoes. Stay updated with critic and audience scores today!

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Just scan a few hundred of the messages in each forum and while Minions is nothing but comments about the cute minions, colors, action, etc., on Strange World the gay character, strong environmental message, etc. are mentioned repeatedly (both pro and con opinions).

You could argue those are "review bombers" with an agenda, but it doesn't change the fact that those are the comments that are being seen by the moviegoing public and topics being discussed in the real world. Of course, nobody, even Disney, could say exactly what impact those conversations are having on the box office, but to pretend the conversations are not happening and it isn't having any impact is just disconnected happy talk.

BTW, this is what Disney Theatrical Marketing's social media group does all day, which is to capture the conversations online and package and report up to management what is being said before/after a film opens. It is a critical part of their process so although on this site we are pretending these conversations aren't happening, I can assure you Disney management is getting very detailed reports on these conversations and brand impact studies, which I would have to imagine would be quite concerning.

Believe it or not even people that follow Rotten Tomatoes are the minority when it come to the general population…I have not heard people IRL discuss it…because they probably don’t even know what it is

Just going by my family….I am the only 1 who follows film… and the only one who checks Rotten Tomatoes regularly.., my family will more often say hey that movie looks good should we go…at most they might glance at Rotten Tomatoes if deciding to see a movie on a whim(rarely happens)just as a guide to what critics say… but they don’t even look deep into the audience score

 

[jeangreyforever]

Anyone remember Miley Cyrus?

So many Disney stars who went a bit wild, while still a Disney star.

All the Disney Channel stars who went wild weren't hired because of their antics. They engaged in those antics after they had already established themselves as Disney stars, and often it was directly because they wanted to shed that Disney wholesome image.

Another good example is Vanessa Hudgens. It was a big scandal when she posted nude (she was covered up) for a magazine. There was serious talk about whether Disney would keep her on for the High School Musical franchise or not, which ultimately they did. And this goes back to the early days of Disney too. Hayley Mills couldn't play a lot of roles early on in her career because her Disney contract forbade her to do anything that would ruin her family friendly image.

 

[Disney Analyst]

All the Disney Channel stars who went wild weren't hired because of their antics. They engaged in those antics after they had already established themselves as Disney stars, and often it was directly because they wanted to shed that Disney wholesome image.

Another good example is Vanessa Hudgens. It was a big scandal when she posted nude (she was covered up) for a magazine. There was serious talk about whether Disney would keep her on for the High School Musical franchise or not, which ultimately they did. And this goes back to the early days of Disney too. Hayley Mills couldn't play a lot of roles early on in her career because her Disney contract forbade her to do anything that would ruin her family friendly image.

I would say in the case of Jaboukie, generally audiences don't know the actors who voice an animated role, let alone the other art they partake in outside of that.

So again, I stand by this is a nothing story, and a fringe minority online that complain about everything.

 

[jeangreyforever]

And Demi Moore had been in controversial sex scenes and posed nude while pregnant (to much disapproval) before Disney cast her as Esmeralda.

Demi Moore was not playing the role of a teenager or minor. Her character was specifically designed to be sexy and more womanly than previous Disney heroines. In the Hunchback commentary, the directors even say that unlike past Disney heroines, Esmeralda has "been around." A lot of the direction of Esmeralda's character and design was in part because of Demi Moore's casting so Disney was never hiding anything there or ashamed. Also keep in mind that Demi Moore was one of the biggest movie stars in the 90s and had the box office on her side.

 

[jeangreyforever]

I would say in the case of Jaboukie, generally audiences don't know the actors who voice an animated role, let alone the other art they partake in outside of that.

So again, I stand by this is a nothing story, and a fringe minority online that complain about everything.

In this case, I agree that audiences don't know this individual let alone who he was playing. I disagree that general audiences don't usually know who the actors who voice animated characters are because whenever there's a big celebrity, the studios go out of their way to make sure everyone knows who is voicing who. Like Rihanna in Home or The Rock in Moana. Obviously that wasn't the case here.

That being said, I don't think people are aware of how many concerned parents use Facebook to keep tabs on what content is safe for their children. If there really were reports of this actor's song circulating around on Facebook, you can bet that all the parent groups were warning each other. I haven't seen anything for this movie, but I saw a lot of parents freaking out over Turning Red and Lightyear for having questionable content. When I was in school, anytime there was a big-budget children's movie that could possibly taint "Christian values," the parents would all get together and warn our school board and administration and then our principal would take the time to warn us to not watch such-and-such movie. Word of mouth spreads especially in conservative circles.

 

[GimpYancIent]

No-one is pretending those conversations aren’t happening. The question is whether they’re widespread and influential enough to have caused the film to flop. To read some of the posts here, you’d think the whole world was abuzz with contentious Strange World chatter, when the truth is that relatively few people are aware of the film’s existence, much less of the supposed controversy surrounding it.

Nah, the films existence was and is very widely / well known. Its's just a dud.

 

[Ghost93]

Demi Moore was not playing the role of a teenager or minor. Her character was specifically designed to be sexy and more womanly than previous Disney heroines. In the Hunchback commentary, the directors even say that unlike past Disney heroines, Esmeralda has "been around." A lot of the direction of Esmeralda's character and design was in part because of Demi Moore's casting so Disney was never hiding anything there or ashamed. Also keep in mind that Demi Moore was one of the biggest movie stars in the 90s and had the box office on her side.

Keep in mind, there was a conservative backlash against the Hunchback of Notre Dame at the time — with Christians disliking how sexual Esmeralda was and feeling that Frollo painted Christians in a negative light. The release of Hunchback also coincided with backlash to Disney giving benefits to same-sex couples.

Of course, while not nearly as profitable as Aladdin or the Lion King, The Hunchback of Notre Dame did gross $325 million on a $100 million budget, and it was the fifth highest-grossing movie worldwide of 1996. Not comparable at all to Strange World's box office performance.

 

[_caleb]

There was serious talk about whether Disney would keep her on for the High School Musical franchise or not,

Serious talk by whom?

 

[LittleBuford]

Demi Moore was not playing the role of a teenager or minor. Her character was specifically designed to be sexy and more womanly than previous Disney heroines. In the Hunchback commentary, the directors even say that unlike past Disney heroines, Esmeralda has "been around." A lot of the direction of Esmeralda's character and design was in part because of Demi Moore's casting so Disney was never hiding anything there or ashamed. Also keep in mind that Demi Moore was one of the biggest movie stars in the 90s and had the box office on her side.

To be clear, I wasn’t suggesting that Demi Moore did anything inappropriate. My point had to do with the claim that an actor’s “raunchy” career is enough to keep droves of morally outraged parents away.