networkpro
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Aside from this thread based on the merits of the content of the animation, I have yet to see any mention of it in normal media.
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'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film
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To be fair Encanto came out when we were going through a huge uprise in Covid cases and the box office was cut short and sent to Disney plus early… which they announce ahead of time… I am sure most people thought they could wait it out as it would be on Disney Plus in just a couple of weeks…I am sure Disney sees Encanto as a rousing success
RobWDW1971
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Encanto came out 28 days before Sing 2, which grossed $400M+ worldwide.
BrianLo
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Exactly, it was no coincidence Josh’s Blue Sky make believe session discussed Moana, Zootopia, Encanto and Coco. They are all juggernauts for Disney post theatrically.
The whole point is not to prove strange world is anything but a bomb (I doubt it will pick up post theatrically, but we’ll find out this year), it’s that Disney just came off the heels of another Moana/Frozen and are being accused of being directionally rudderless. So far it’s been one big miss after a big hit. Likely headed back to a big hit with Wish. Maybe this time also theatrically if the D+ expectancy can be reset.
People need to move on from this movie… Disney already did before it was even released.
Chi84
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So did a lot of posters here. Check out the first five pages of this thread.
That would be relevant if there were not other features that did comparably well and in some cases, far better against the animation juggernaut that is Disney.
And many other films stomped it. Moderate hit.
It is not at the same level as many other Disney hits.
As pointed out by others, Sing 2, Venom, a Michael Myers Slasher reboot sequel, all beat it that year and some close to it's release.
Sing 2 was not on Disney plus for free… and even if it was on Peacock…more families have Disney plus than Peacock and it is not even close
None of those are even comparable to a Disney plus family movie that was going on Disney Plus for no extra charge by Christmas
By the Halloween Kills crashed and burned… So I don’t know what your trying to prove with that title
How did it crash and burn? Halloween Kills grossed more domestically than Encanto, and as a Blumhouse feature had a huge profit margin for what it cost the studio. It was a Rated R feature that outperformed a Disney animated Holiday release. It was a fact to point out.
You may be thinking of Halloween Ends, from just this last fall, which did not do great but was also on Peacock with the same logic you give Encanto. It still doubled it's budget domestically so it was a success, just a third in a series of reboots. Ha.
It is cool that Encanto caught on with Disney Plus for a bit as it was released rather quickly. But plenty of movies out performed it and as far as cultural relevance,
Chicken Little was bigger financial hit and as far as how cultural impact goes I remember the Toys, the video game and the presence in the parks including painting the soundstage shaped building of The Brown Derby.
It does not always last.
Encanto is not even Hercules, it is just a recent moderate hit.
And back to the present, financially receptive as a film is what the discussion has been:
Disney's recent attempts have not been doing well. Even with all the formula of timing and laurels in place.
Pixar and Disney Animation both fizzled.
Universal's Illumination and DreamWorks both hit their marks.
No it did not…I just checked box office mojo…Encanto made 96 domestic and 256 world wide while Halloween Kills made 92 domestic and 133 worldwide…Halloween Kills did ok it’s opening weekend but fell off a cliff after that due to day and date release on peacock… sure it was also cut short due to streaming…but it never caught on the way Encanto did… in fact most of Halloween’s core fan base can’t stand that movie
erasure fan1
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I'm sure they do. I know part of me wants them to fail. The only way things get better is for Disney to get hit hard in the pocket book. Disney has been the poster child of mediocrity on the film side for a while now. And the theme park side of things speak for themselves. They need a nice kick in the bum to hopefully put them back on track to being the gold standard.
The point was domestically, it was a bigger box office but theatrically. A rated R movie that cost 20 Million to make.
You are saying recent cultural, I am saying financial on a film's own accord. Culturally it is easy for Disney to have their only moderate hit be present in the parks. They don't have anything else to do and current execs rely on that synergy chasing.
It puts how much Disney has fallen into perspective.
The Fact that Sing 2 made 400 million worldwide compared to Encanto's numbers shows you all you need to know. It's a recent moderate Disney release. That is why you see all the synergy chasing. It does not mean it is as culturally big as you are making it out.
Encanto was rushed to Disney Plus because Disney Plus needed it and the theaterical run was not going to earn much .kre for them. Otherwise they would have left it there.
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Even domestically it made more Encanto 96 Halloween 92… plus if we are going on direct profit how much merchandise did Halloween make in merch and album sales compared To Encanto… but once again both cut their profits short with Streaming and Sing would of too if it was widely available on streaming too…Encanto has certainly been enveloped more in pop culture
Disney Analyst
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My only memory of when Encanto came out is that most people (including us) stopped going to theatres again, as new restrictions came back in place due to a big surge up here.
So I was very grateful when they put it on Disney+ super fast.
Such an amazing film.
So I was very grateful when they put it on Disney+ super fast.
Such an amazing film.
Pushed by synergy. Again. Speaking just movies earning back their own production budget, Encanto was not a rousing success.
Yawn… keep pushing the back the goal posts.. I guarantee Disney is pleased with Encanto more than Universal is with Halloween did
There were no goal posts moving as I made my point clear from the start. Speaking in terms of box office theatrical attention for their return on investment. To your second point I think HHN and all the merch there to for them now being known to associate with the movie says differently. They had three hits out of the property that is already culturally 50 years old. The fact that a Disney animated big budget release could even be compared is wild, and yet we can.
Disney forgot how to do middle budget hits.
You should take that nap if you are so cranky to toss out yawns. If a post is boring you, you do not have to respond.
Maybe you can dream to interview a personification with such questions to guarantee.
Done speaking with someone who yawns over a response.
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You do move your goal posts though first you say your just talking box office take… but then you move to compared to budget…then you say international does not count for Halloween as R Rated does not work there, but you don’t want to take into account that Disney Announced when Encanto was going to streaming before it arrived in theaters.
Which as a theater guy… I do think it is a mistake to jump on streaming right away… it cuts into your box office take…I get it… Disney wanted to sell streaming packages for Christmas, but if you give it a longer theatrical run you will make extra profit in the long run and the popularity of the film will only prop up your service in the long run
Any Halloween merchandise sold is more on the franchise as a whole… the third Halloween movie in the latest batch of sequels is further proof what the reception is of the latest sequels
LittleBuford
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Same for me. In another era, I definitely would have gone to the cinema to see it. I’ve only just begun dipping my toes back into that world (I missed it!).
I really liked it but didn’t love it. I’m not quite sure why that is. Onward remains my favourite thing that Disney or Pixar has done in recent years, followed by Luca.
RobWDW1971
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Fall 2021 Family Movies Global Box Office:
9/3/21 Shang-Chi $432M
11/5/21 Eternals $402M
(Covid explodes leading all parents and families to stay underground)
11/24/21 Encanto $257M
(Covid is eradicated freeing all parents and families to leave the house)
12/17/21 Spiderman: No Way Home $1.9 Billion
12/22/21 Sing 2 $408M
Little question as to why it was unceremoniously dumped onto Disney+ in 30 days unlike the others to their respective streaming services, which was the same reason Strange World was dumped onto Disney+ except that had an even more horrific global box office of only $73M (well, or maybe Covid broke out that week, or the dog ate their homework, or the sun got in their eyes, or, or, perhaps.....).
9/3/21 Shang-Chi $432M
11/5/21 Eternals $402M
(Covid explodes leading all parents and families to stay underground)
11/24/21 Encanto $257M
(Covid is eradicated freeing all parents and families to leave the house)
12/17/21 Spiderman: No Way Home $1.9 Billion
12/22/21 Sing 2 $408M
Little question as to why it was unceremoniously dumped onto Disney+ in 30 days unlike the others to their respective streaming services, which was the same reason Strange World was dumped onto Disney+ except that had an even more horrific global box office of only $73M (well, or maybe Covid broke out that week, or the dog ate their homework, or the sun got in their eyes, or, or, perhaps.....).