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'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film

Californian Elitist

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I think anyone with a solid knowledge of this company’s history and culture would know what Walt would think of this . You obviously have a biased opinion and are willing to overlook how horrible this movie is.
I thought the movie was just okay, but I “obviously have a biased opinion.” Okay.

Again, you have no clue what Walt Disney would think of the movie. You can make an educated guess, but you don’t know and you will never know, Elvis. You never addressed my question, but I’m not surprised.
 

ElvisMickey

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I thought the movie was just okay, but I “obviously have a biased opinion.” Okay.

Again, you have no clue what Walt Disney would think of the movie. You can make an educated guess, but you don’t know and you will never know, Elvis. You never addressed my question, but I’m not surprised.

Nothing woke about the movie at all. Look up the definition of “woke” and where it comes from.
OK. How do you explain the box office? And to address your question, if you’re questioning what Walt would think about this movie, than you know nothing about this company. The projects Walt created are the same ones that current Disney, who green lit Strange World, are trying to erase. There’s a reason why this company is in the toilet.
 
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Californian Elitist

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OK. How do you explain the box office? And to address your question, if you’re questioning what Walt would think about this movie, than you know nothing about this company. The projects Walt created are the same ones that current Disney, who green lit Strange World, are trying to erase. There’s a reason why this company is in the toilet.
I don’t know why the movie performed the way it did, and I’m not going to pretend I know, unlike you and some others. It’s doing decently on Disney+, so that may suggest that some folks were waiting for it to hit streaming. Again, I don’t know, and I’m not going to pretend like I know and try to state it as a fact.

My question had nothing to do about dead Walt Disney’s thoughts on this movie (you still have no clue what he would have thought, and you’re making more assumptions). My question related to the first part of your original post. What does being an ex CM and stepping foot into Walt’s office have to do with anything?

I know plenty about the company.
 

LittleBuford

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IDK. While Strange World was underwhelming, in a world where Home on the Range and Chicken Little exist, I can't say it's the worst.
I have a curious soft spot for Home on the Range, though it’s definitely not a good film. I agree that Strange World is better, and I’m certain it will age much, much better.
 

LittleBuford

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OK. How do you explain the box office?
It’s worth recalling that some of (Walt) Disney’s most beloved films did rather poorly at the box office upon their initial release and were considered flops at the time—Sleeping Beauty and Alice in Wonderland both lost money, as did Fantasia (though WW2 was a factor in this case). To be clear, I’m not saying Strange World measures up to these masterpieces—it doesn’t—but as someone who claims to be well acquainted with Disney history, you should know better than anyone that box-office performance isn’t an all-revealing metric.
 

RobWDW1971

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CFO: Bob, we have some good news and some bad news.

Iger: Give me the bad news first.

CFO: Strange World is a box office disaster around the world and we are going to lose well over $150 million.

Iger: Good lord! What's the good news?!

CFO: Well, apparently box office isn't an all-revealing metric and we also lost money on a film in 1951 which is somehow relevant to 2023.
 

LittleBuford

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CFO: Well, apparently box office isn't an all-revealing metric and we also lost money on a film in 1951 which is somehow relevant to 2023.
It's certainly more relevant than North Face, "lifestyle", and Walt's office. This thread would be only a few pages long if people used it as intended—i.e., to discuss the film. Instead, we have pages and pages of derailment, trolling, and grievance signalling.
 

TP2000

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The CEO of The North Face has been pretty open about his convictions about sustainability and the environment. They only use material that is 100% recyclable and they're moving more and more to using recycled materials. They also set up a program where customers can recycle their North Face clothing and purchase recycled/used clothing. They've put their money where their mouths are by investing heavily in these initiatives and by being selective with whom they want to be associated with.

They don't "abhor fossil fuels," they're committed to a more sustainable way to use them. I believe most people live in this "middle ground" approach: somewhere between “never use them” and “use them with abandon.”

I suppose from your perspective, the only thing employees of The North Face could possibly do to not be "hypocrites," and "fools" would be to stop selling polyester, stop talking about sustainability/environmental responsibility, and to only produce clothing made of natural fibers, but to me all of these efforts to mitigate the negative impact of the business are noble and should be emulated by other businesses.

Similarly, the artists who created Strange World included an environmental message in the film can point out the harm crops can have on the environment even if they still eat food grown on farms.

You're kidding, right? o_O

The North Face is a company that makes clothing out of petroleum products, as almost all clothing is now. And they don't want to be associated with a petroleum products company because they think it's not a good look for them, or in the parlance of the day "Doesn't align with our values".... For their clothing company values of making polyester clothing made out of petroleum products.

And the Walt Disney Company is now going down the exact same path as The North Face.

That you could somehow excuse that all with the brain puzzle of "The folks at North Face are going to be really, super-duper sorry about making their clothing from petroleum products in the future while they continue to make their clothing products out of petroleum products in the future" is not just hysterical, it's utter Virtue Signaling perfection. But mostly just hysterical. ;)
 

TP2000

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Very nice setup. One thing I would suggest is to rip your dvds and blurays to mp4 or mkv format. Then get a Synology 2 bay NAS Diskstation DS220+ and a couple of 6TB hard drives. That way you use Plex to stream your movie collection anywhere in the house. No need for Blu-Ray players.

Oh, crap. You're going to make me talk to the nice lady at Crutchfield again, aren't you? :oops:

I have a bunch of old and beloved movies and shows on DVD and Blu-Ray. I recently packed them up and moved them two states away. And right after coming out of the Christmas season where I watch a lot of them for sentimental reasons (Pee-Wee's Christmas Special, SCTV Christmas shows, Dean Martin Christmas Specials, etc.). Plus the currently unfolding winter shelter-in-place season where I make my Aunt Ingrid's Swedish Glog recipe and then watch a bunch of old winter-themed faves I have on Blu-Ray like... Airport, All About Eve, Valley of the Dolls, Ski Party, Auntie Mame, etc., etc.

I do get what you're saying, but there's something comforting about putting a physical disc of some sort into a machine for me.

It's ceremonial, really. But it's only about 15% (at most) of my screen time now, so I kind of enjoy the ceremony.

And here I thought I was so cool for having a 4K laser projector on a modestly sized 100 inch screen that retracts unseen into the ceiling. :(
 
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TP2000

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It's certainly more relevant than North Face, "lifestyle", and Walt's office. This thread would be only a few pages long if people used it as intended—i.e., to discuss the film.

What would be the fun in that?

The film not only bombed, it bombed so historically bad that it makes Chicken Little look like a financial success and makes Herbie Goes Bananas look like Shakespeare in comparison. And all at the exact time of corporate crisis and financial panic in Burbank.

So of course we're going to dissect it and examine the corpse for clues and theories why it died so suddenly, and thus why Burbank is in a panicky time right now. This is a discussion board, after all.

We're discussing the dissection at this point. Which is allowed here, to be honest. :)
 

TP2000

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I do enjoy the people who think they know what Walt Disney, who died in *checks notes* 1966 would think of a movie released in 2022.

I would agree with you.

We have absolutely no idea how Walt would evolve and change into the 21st century had he lived to be 100 or more.

There's just no telling. Barack Obama, after all, openly opposed gay marriage when he ran for President twice in 2008 and 2012, but by 2013 he had suddenly "evolved" (his word) to embrace gay marriage and no one questioned that for one moment. Walt Disney likely would have evolved from 1966 to 2023.

Heck, by now, Walt may have evolved way past Socialism and might fully embrace Cuban-style or North Korean-style Communism and might be producing films openly denouncing the United States by this point. One never knows how one is going to "evolve"! o_O
 

Heppenheimer

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I have a curious soft spot for Home on the Range, though it’s definitely not a good film. I agree that Strange World is better, and I’m certain it will age much, much better.
As a fan of Westerns, I can't help but root for Disney's only animated attempt at the genre. I at least kind of liked Home of the Range when I first saw it, whereas Strange World left me completely flat. Maybe its just that for me, tepid a tepid Western will always win out over tepid Sci-Fi.
 

LittleBuford

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As a fan of Westerns, I can't help but root for Disney's only animated attempt at the genre. I at least kind of liked Home of the Range when I first saw it, whereas Strange World left me completely flat. Maybe its just that for me, tepid a tepid Western will always win out over tepid Sci-Fi.
That’s fair enough. I’m not really a fan of either genre, so neither film had a head start with me. It’s an interesting coincidence that both feature a Quaid brother.
 

Heppenheimer

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That’s fair enough. I’m not really a fan of either genre, so neither film had a head start with me. It’s an interesting coincidence that both feature a Quaid brother.
Hah, I'd forgotten that Randy Quaid was in Home on the Range and I even had that yodeling song in my head.
 

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