'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film

[Prince-1]

Aside from the 1000s of comments I’ve read online stating such let’s simplify things- do you know who makes up a large part of Middle America? Do you think they were running to take their kids to see Strange World? You know, the “bigots” as you guys around here like to say.

Well that’s proof if I ever heard any. Who needs actual facts anymore to back up a controversial position when online comments will do. And make you are attributing the word bigot to the right person Mick because I’ve never used that word. In fact not sure if anyone here actually has. Maybe you are just projecting.

 

[mickEblu]

Well that’s proof if I ever heard any. Who needs actual facts anymore to back up a controversial position when online comments will do. And make you are attributing the word bigot to the right person Mick because I’ve never used that word. In fact not sure if anyone here actually has. Maybe you are just projecting.

So where’s your proof that it doesn’t have anything to do with the movie bombing?

Lol did you just pop in? The word has been used plenty. This thread just gets purged every 45 minutes.

 

[TP2000]

A lot of this is just the time we all live in. Society will continue to evolve. There will be steps forward and back along the way.

Strange World would probably have underperformed (despite its good points) even if advertised well simply because it’s just a “good” animated sci-fi film and not a great one, just about on the exact same level as Treasure Planet and Atlantis. It’s perfect for streaming.

The public knows there’s never been a great animated sci-fi film yet.

I think this was a real mistake in the non-marketing.

Imagine if they had actually marketed it, but had let on that there was a Fantastic Voyage type element to the plot instead of hiding that entirely. Boys love that kind of stuff! And Dads love stuff their boys love, because Dads used to be boys!

This could have been a Cars level success of a movie to build a franchise off of, capturing the boys that the Princess movies never will or can.

But it failed miserably. On so many levels.

The real test for public reaction will come if and when Disney or another studio releases a FANTASTIC, must-see animated family film that happens to feature a gay character.

You've got to wonder what the Burbank execs will be talking about on Tuesday morning when they return from their long Christmas break. There is A LOT OF WORK TO DO in Burbank right now. Future direction for family films is a big part of that.

 

[Prince-1]

And I think a smaller percentage of its failure is due to parents learning from their own research and social groups (Facebook, etc.) that it featured a gay teenage boy as the main protagonist in the film, and their natural hesitancy to allow their children under about age 12 to go see that movie because of that.

And once again I’m assuming you have some type of empirical evidence to support this. Now I would bet that there are some people that did not see the movie for this reason but that number is probably so small it did not do anything to the box office numbers. I mean Mick read “1000s” of comments saying so

 

[Prince-1]

So where’s your proof that it doesn’t have anything to do with the movie bombing?

Lol did you just pop in? The word has been used plenty. This thread just gets purged every 45 minutes.

Sorry Mick. I don’t have to provide proof as I’m not the one making that claim. That falls on the person(s) who is making the clean which is you and TP.

 

[TP2000]

And once again I’m assuming you have some type of empirical evidence to support this. Now I would bet that there are some people that did not see the movie for this reason but that number is probably so small it did not do anything to the box office numbers. I mean Mick read “1000s” of comments saying so

No, as I've stated, it's simply my opinion. And my opinion on this topic has changed/evolved a bit after the last six weeks on this thread.

What is your opinion why Strange World bombed so badly and was barely marketed after a $180 Million production budget?

 

[mickEblu]

Sorry Mick. I don’t have to provide proof as I’m not the one making that claim. That falls on the person(s) who is making the clean which is you and TP.

You made the claim that it has nothing to do with the bombing plenty of times as well as by how passionately you disagree with my claim.

 

[Prince-1]

No, as I've stated, it's simply my opinion. And my opinion on this topic has changed/evolved a bit after the last six weeks on this thread.

What is your opinion why Strange World bombed so badly and was barely marketed after a $180 Million production budget?

Ok good. As wrong as it is I’m good with you saying it’s an opinion.

As for my opinion, I think the movie just didn’t look very good and that people didn’t want to waste their money going to the theater knowing that it probably will be on Disney+ in a very short time. As for why Disney did not market it…I do not have a clue. Maybe they knew they had just a bad movie and they didn’t want to waste any more money on it.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Listening to it now! The music is definitely the best thing about the movie. Would love to hear it live.

I also loved the score. It’s stunning. The ballet over the acid lake was hilarious and beautiful.

 

[Prince-1]

You made the claim that it has nothing to do with the bombing plenty of times as well as by how passionately you disagree with my claim.

It’s OK Mick. You don’t have any proof to back up your position and you are trying to have me help you. I get it. Now, what you do is listen to your boy TP because even he agrees that it failed due to bad marketing and not to a simple crush.

 

[mickEblu]

It’s OK Mick. You don’t have any proof to back up your position and you are trying to have me help you. I get it. Now, what you do is listen to your boy TP because even he agrees that it failed due to bad marketing and not to a simple crush.

Well I guess we’ll see where Disney goes from here. That should give us a hint.

 

[TP2000]

Ok good. As wrong as it is I’m good with you saying it’s an opinion.

Anytime I present hard data or facts here, I always include the source. Like my earlier Gallup information stating that 94% of Americans are now supportive of inter-racial marriages, even though @Californian Elitist tries to slander many of us by claiming incorrectly that we're all a bunch of secret Klan members who hang out with racists and bigots, when the reality is the opposite of that slanderous lie.

If a post of mine here doesn't have a citation of fact attached to it, then that post is mostly my own opinion.

Out of curiosity, what are your posts here made up of?

 

[Figgy1]

Did I ever say there was an organized boycott of Strange World? I don't remember that at all.

I think you may have thought I imagined some organized boycott of the film, like that ridiculous thing the Southern Baptists tried in the 2000's with Disney World.

I think Strange World failed mostly because it wasn't marketed at all. And I think a smaller percentage of its failure is due to parents learning from their own research and social groups (Facebook, etc.) that it featured a gay teenage boy as the main protagonist in the film, and their natural hesitancy to allow their children under about age 12 to go see that movie because of that.

But a boycott? That seems wildly optimistic for a film most Americans didn't even know existed.

That would have been 1995. My friend made a killing purging computers and we made out well reselling VHS tapes we got for free. He had a relative that had connections to those boycotting

 

[Rich T]

I think this was a real mistake in the non-marketing.

Imagine if they had actually marketed it, but had let on that there was a Fantastic Voyage type element to the plot instead of hiding that entirely. Boys love that kind of stuff! And Dads love stuff their boys love, because Dads used to be boys!

This could have been a Cars level success of a movie to build a franchise off of, capturing the boys that the Princess movies never will or can.

But it failed miserably. On so many levels.

I agree an ad campaigns playing up the film’s Fantastic Voyage theme would have helped a lot…

But I honestly think the movie would have still been a box-office failure because of “wait to see it on Disney+” word of mouth. Strange World is a good-not-great movie, and no amount of hype would have changed that. I like the movie just as I do Treasure Planet, and Strange World plays like a Treasure Planet 2.

 

[TP2000]

That would have been 1995. My friend made a killing purging computers and we made out well reselling VHS tapes we got for free. He had a relative that had connections to those boycotting

I had moved back to SoCal about that time, but I remember it in passing. The whole thing baffled me, to be honest.

What were they thinking? It obviously had no real impact on Disney World specifically, or the Walt Disney Company in general. As most boycotts never really work in any meaningful way.

Somehow I think I read that they finally dropped it as an official tenet of the church? I wonder how they explained that officially to their church members, since things in the 2020's are far gayer than they were in 1995.

 

[Prince-1]

Well I guess we’ll see where Disney goes from here. That should give us a hint.

My bet is they are staying away from sci-fi movies and will continue to embrace love in all forms.

 

[Rich T]

I’d just like to say that my favorite moment in the entire film is in the hand-drawn opening when Yaeger shaves with a live piranha fish.

 

[Prince-1]

I’d just like to say that my favorite moment in the entire film is in the hand-drawn opening when Yaeger shaves with a live piranha fish.

I thought the movie overall had beautiful graphics.

 

[TP2000]

I agree an ad campaigns playing up the film’s Fantastic Voyage theme would have helped a lot…

But I honestly think the movie would have still been a box-office failure because of “wait to see it on Disney+” word of mouth.

Their strategy with streaming and Disney+ just seems disastrous to me. But then, I still don't understand how anyone can make any real money off of streaming except to sell old movies that were paid off decades ago for a few bucks per viewing.

Speaking of that, I've got to go now as I just paid Amazon four bucks to watch Guess Who's Coming To Dinner? tonight! Seriously gang, if you want a great movie dealing with the old and mostly forgotten issue of inter-racial marriage, that movie is a pure gem. I'm making caramel covered popcorn and using up the last bottle of New Year's champagne for it!

When Katherine Hepburn tells off that bigot Hilary St. George (a real 1960's bigot, not the fake kind who are genuinely lovely and good people who attend racially diverse dinner parties in laid-back yet sophisticated OC in 2022) as she drives away in her 1967 Plymouth Barracuda, it gets me every time! And that lounge singer crooning "You've Got To Love A Little" with a giant hairdo as tall as the Coit Tower! I can't wait!

Pop that champagne! Roll the film!... and Guess Who's Coming To Dinner?

 

[TP2000]

Y’all have literally zero concrete proof as to the actual reason(s) why million of Americans chose not to see this movie in theaters. No getting around that.

No one does. We only have our opinions, based only loosely on factual financial data.

What is your opinion why Strange World was purposely barely marketed and then flopped very badly in the free market?