'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film

[Prince-1]

You made the claim that it has nothing to do with the bombing plenty of times as well as by how passionately you disagree with my claim.

It’s OK Mick. You don’t have any proof to back up your position and you are trying to have me help you. I get it. Now, what you do is listen to your boy TP because even he agrees that it failed due to bad marketing and not to a simple crush.

 

[mickEblu]

It’s OK Mick. You don’t have any proof to back up your position and you are trying to have me help you. I get it. Now, what you do is listen to your boy TP because even he agrees that it failed due to bad marketing and not to a simple crush.

Well I guess we’ll see where Disney goes from here. That should give us a hint.

 

[TP2000]

Ok good. As wrong as it is I’m good with you saying it’s an opinion.

Anytime I present hard data or facts here, I always include the source. Like my earlier Gallup information stating that 94% of Americans are now supportive of inter-racial marriages, even though @Californian Elitist tries to slander many of us by claiming incorrectly that we're all a bunch of secret Klan members who hang out with racists and bigots, when the reality is the opposite of that slanderous lie.

If a post of mine here doesn't have a citation of fact attached to it, then that post is mostly my own opinion.

Out of curiosity, what are your posts here made up of?

 

[Figgy1]

Did I ever say there was an organized boycott of Strange World? I don't remember that at all.

I think you may have thought I imagined some organized boycott of the film, like that ridiculous thing the Southern Baptists tried in the 2000's with Disney World.

I think Strange World failed mostly because it wasn't marketed at all. And I think a smaller percentage of its failure is due to parents learning from their own research and social groups (Facebook, etc.) that it featured a gay teenage boy as the main protagonist in the film, and their natural hesitancy to allow their children under about age 12 to go see that movie because of that.

But a boycott? That seems wildly optimistic for a film most Americans didn't even know existed.

That would have been 1995. My friend made a killing purging computers and we made out well reselling VHS tapes we got for free. He had a relative that had connections to those boycotting

 

[Rich T]

I think this was a real mistake in the non-marketing.

Imagine if they had actually marketed it, but had let on that there was a Fantastic Voyage type element to the plot instead of hiding that entirely. Boys love that kind of stuff! And Dads love stuff their boys love, because Dads used to be boys!

This could have been a Cars level success of a movie to build a franchise off of, capturing the boys that the Princess movies never will or can.

But it failed miserably. On so many levels.

I agree an ad campaigns playing up the film’s Fantastic Voyage theme would have helped a lot…

But I honestly think the movie would have still been a box-office failure because of “wait to see it on Disney+” word of mouth. Strange World is a good-not-great movie, and no amount of hype would have changed that. I like the movie just as I do Treasure Planet, and Strange World plays like a Treasure Planet 2.

 

[TP2000]

That would have been 1995. My friend made a killing purging computers and we made out well reselling VHS tapes we got for free. He had a relative that had connections to those boycotting

I had moved back to SoCal about that time, but I remember it in passing. The whole thing baffled me, to be honest.

What were they thinking? It obviously had no real impact on Disney World specifically, or the Walt Disney Company in general. As most boycotts never really work in any meaningful way.

Somehow I think I read that they finally dropped it as an official tenet of the church? I wonder how they explained that officially to their church members, since things in the 2020's are far gayer than they were in 1995.

 

[Prince-1]

Well I guess we’ll see where Disney goes from here. That should give us a hint.

My bet is they are staying away from sci-fi movies and will continue to embrace love in all forms.

 

[Rich T]

I’d just like to say that my favorite moment in the entire film is in the hand-drawn opening when Yaeger shaves with a live piranha fish.

 

[Prince-1]

I’d just like to say that my favorite moment in the entire film is in the hand-drawn opening when Yaeger shaves with a live piranha fish.

I thought the movie overall had beautiful graphics.

 

[TP2000]

I agree an ad campaigns playing up the film’s Fantastic Voyage theme would have helped a lot…

But I honestly think the movie would have still been a box-office failure because of “wait to see it on Disney+” word of mouth.

Their strategy with streaming and Disney+ just seems disastrous to me. But then, I still don't understand how anyone can make any real money off of streaming except to sell old movies that were paid off decades ago for a few bucks per viewing.

Speaking of that, I've got to go now as I just paid Amazon four bucks to watch Guess Who's Coming To Dinner? tonight! Seriously gang, if you want a great movie dealing with the old and mostly forgotten issue of inter-racial marriage, that movie is a pure gem. I'm making caramel covered popcorn and using up the last bottle of New Year's champagne for it!

When Katherine Hepburn tells off that bigot Hilary St. George (a real 1960's bigot, not the fake kind who are genuinely lovely and good people who attend racially diverse dinner parties in laid-back yet sophisticated OC in 2022) as she drives away in her 1967 Plymouth Barracuda, it gets me every time! And that lounge singer crooning "You've Got To Love A Little" with a giant hairdo as tall as the Coit Tower! I can't wait!

Pop that champagne! Roll the film!... and Guess Who's Coming To Dinner?

 

[TP2000]

Y’all have literally zero concrete proof as to the actual reason(s) why million of Americans chose not to see this movie in theaters. No getting around that.

No one does. We only have our opinions, based only loosely on factual financial data.

What is your opinion why Strange World was purposely barely marketed and then flopped very badly in the free market?

 

[Figgy1]

Their strategy with streaming and Disney+ just seems disastrous to me. But then, I still don't understand how anyone can make any real money off of streaming except to sell old movies that were paid off decades ago for a few bucks per viewing.

Speaking of that, I've got to go now as I just paid Amazon four bucks to watch Guess Who's Coming To Dinner? tonight! Seriously gang, if you want a great movie dealing with the old and mostly forgotten issue of inter-racial marriage, that movie is a pure gem. I'm making caramel covered popcorn and using up the last bottle of New Year's champagne for it!

When Katherine Hepburn tells off that bigot Hilary St. George (a real 1960's bigot, not the fake kind who are genuinely lovely and good people who attend racially diverse dinner parties in laid-back yet sophisticated OC in 2022) as she drives away in her 1967 Plymouth Barracuda, it gets me every time! And that lounge singer crooning "You've Got To Love A Little" with a giant hairdo as tall as the Coit Tower! I can't wait!

Pop that champagne! Roll the film!... and Guess Who's Coming To Dinner?

Love that movie! But seriously you should get a hard copy if it is one you watch oftenish

 

[Chi84]

I thought the movie overall had beautiful graphics.

That’s true. And it’s currently the number one movie on Disney +. Several articles have concluded the reason it didn’t do well in theaters is that Disney realized it was more of a watch at home type movie and didn’t market is as much for that reason.

I’m glad so many people are seeing it now because it truly is a gorgeous movie to watch.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Anytime I present hard data or facts here, I always include the source. Like my earlier Gallup information stating that 94% of Americans are now supportive of inter-racial marriages, even though @Californian Elitist tries to slander many of us by claiming incorrectly that we're all a bunch of secret Klan members who hang out with racists and bigots, when the reality is the opposite of that slanderous lie.

If a post of mine here doesn't have a citation of fact attached to it, then that post is mostly my own opinion.

Out of curiosity, what are your posts here made up of?

I claimed no such thing. It’s not my fault that you’re dramatic and are purposefully misunderstanding what I wrote. Not my fault that the Klan operates out of Orange County, and because it’s so racist there, the likelihood of people living there, yourself included, as well as I, have probably run into bigots, racists, and the Grand Wizard lol. I stand by what I said and you’ll never get that apology. Do try to get over it.

 

[Californian Elitist]

No one does. We only have our opinions, based only loosely on factual financial data.

What is your opinion why Strange World was purposely barely marketed and then flopped very badly in the free market?

I’ve said multiple times I don’t know what they didn’t market it. I’m not going to come up with weird reasons and try to pass them as facts.

 

[Chi84]

I’ve said multiple times I don’t know what they didn’t market it. I’m not going to come up with weird reasons and try to pass them as facts.

The fact that it is being SO successful on Disney+ (Strange World only hit Disney+ on December 23 but will be closing out 2022 as the Number 1 most watched movie) stands contra to the argument that its failure in theaters was due to one particular aspect of its content.

Huge Disney Box Office Flop Is Now Number 1 On Disney+

Strange World could see big success on Disney+.

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[Californian Elitist]

The fact that it is being SO successful on Disney+ (Strange World only hit Disney+ on December 23 but will be closing out 2022 as the Number 1 most watched movie) stands contra to the argument that its failure in theaters was due to its content.

Huge Disney Box Office Flop Is Now Number 1 On Disney+

Strange World could see big success on Disney+.

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And this is why I’m not going to spend a bunch of time coming up with theories as to why it flopped in theaters, especially not with people who haven’t seen the movie and who claim to not know, but constantly push their own agenda and beliefs. What’s done is done. It’s now on Disney+ and more people are watching it.

I’m happy more and more people are streaming it.

 

[doctornick]

Strange World is mediocre IMHO and I don’t think anything would have helped the box office, even a robust and quality advertising campaign. The audience scores were just too subpar to expect it to get good word of mouth. That said, the streaming numbers do suggest that people were opening to see it… for “free” and in the comfort of their own homes.

So I think the bigger point is how does Disney get folks to go to theaters to see animated films vs waiting for D+? And this is where popularity actually hurts Disney since D+ is one of the higher subscribed services so more people (especially among the target audience of families and Disneyphiles that drive box office numbers) have D+ as opposed to other services/companies putting out animated films - compare that to Peacock and Rise of Gru (for example) where few folks have that streaming service so they might be more apt to spend the money in theaters.

How will Disney approach Elemental and Wish? I’m not sure there’s a great way forward but it has to start with holding titles from D+ for a lot longer. As I’ve said before, I’d actually wait 4-6 months after theatrical release to drop onto D+. Make Elemental the “movie we put on there around Christmas” title. Start breaking people if the learned habit to just wait for it at home.

 

[Chi84]

And this is why I’m not going to spend a bunch of time coming up with theories as to why it flopped in theaters, especially not with people who haven’t seen the movie and who claim to not know, but constantly push their own agenda and beliefs. What’s done is done. It’s now on Disney+ and more people are watching it.

I’m happy more and more people are streaming it.

This is one movie where I think actually seeing it is necessary to fully understand and reasonably discuss Disney’s intent in including the specific content at issue.

Then again I think it almost always helps to be fully informed about the matters on which you’re expressing an opinion. It’s a harmless movie.

 

[Californian Elitist]

This is one movie where I think actually seeing it is necessary to fully understand and reasonably discuss Disney’s intent in including the specific content at issue.

Then again I think it almost always helps to be fully informed about the matters on which you’re expressing an opinion. It’s a harmless movie.

Agreed, and I feel this way about everything. I have no desire to talk to someone who criticizes and gives their opinion about something they’ve never personally experienced. It’s a personal waste of time.