'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film

[LittleBuford]

I sure do love homes I wonder what kind of decor would fit in one?

Hmmmm

Maybe furniture

IDK though, seems controversial...

Wallpaper in the toilet!

 

[Phroobar]

The Disney theme parks are among the campest places on earth. Princesses, parades, "magic", and a bunch of very obviously queer CMs. I have no idea how some of the people posting here can be so blind to the gayness that already surrounds them at WDW.

People like to have a gay time at Disneyland. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[BuddyThomas]

The Disney theme parks are among the campest places on earth. Princesses, parades, "magic", and a bunch of very obviously queer CMs. I have no idea how some of the people posting here can be so blind to the gayness that already surrounds them at WDW.

They are the same ones who love the content that gay people added to the Disney legacy such as Howard Ashman (Beauty and the beast, Aladdin, Little Mermaid) and many others but god forbid there be a couple of minutes of a gay character in a movie. This site has always been packed with homophobes. Ugh.

 

[LittleBuford]

Aye, and that's the rub. It really pains me to think that the American (worldwide?) public won't let Disney break out of its childish box even a little without punishing them for it. I have really enjoyed the vast majority of Disney (and Pixar's) recent animated output, but I also like more complicated fare than most. [Note that I am not saying in any way that something like Lightyear or Strange World is actually complicated, just that it's not as simple as the public's expectations.] The trick, if they want to keep on the current course, is managing to do both in the same story, and the recent movies are lacking much of a kid-facing hook to engage that demographic. I think Sox could/should have been that in Lightyear, but Strange World doesn't really have it at all.

I think classic Pixar already struck the balance you're asking for. Up and Inside Out are especially good examples.

 

[brideck]

People like to have a gay time at Disneyland. Nothing wrong with that.

Even The Flintstones were having a "gay old time." It's been there all this time, just staring us in the face...

How could we be so blind?

 

[BuddyThomas]

Why is it disgusting that I don’t want that stuff In rated PG animated children’s films?

There was nothing at all wrong with the content to which you are referring. Question-did you even see it or areYou blabbing about it like that martini shaking dog?

 

[SuddenStorm]

You continue to post homophobic crap on herdoverand over again and it is disgusting.

Where's the nuance? It must be nice knowing that everyone who has a differing opinion than you is a bigot and a homophobe.

 

[BuddyThomas]

Where's the nuance? It must be nice knowing that everyone who has a differing opinion than you is a bigot and a homophobe.

It’s pretty clear, actually.

 

[mickEblu]

The Disney theme parks are among the campest places on earth. Princesses, parades, "magic", and a bunch of very obviously queer CMs. I have no idea how some of the people posting here can be so blind to the gayness that already surrounds them at WDW.

Why are princesses, parades and magic Gay? You don’t get to claim that stuff. And how does Gay people existing in the world and doing their jobs relate to the point I’ve been making about the PG movies?

 

[mickEblu]

There was nothing at all wrong with the content to which you are referring. Question-did you even see it or areYou blabbing about it like that martini shaking dog?

I saw the scenes on YouTube yes. Not a fan.

 

[BuddyThomas]

Why are princesses, parades and magic Gay? You don’t get to claim that stuff. And how does Gay people existing in the world and doing their jobs relate to the point I’ve been making about the PG movies?

Good lord.

 

[brideck]

I think classic Pixar already struck the balance you're asking for. Up and Inside Out are especially good examples.

Agreed. I almost invoked a number of those movies in my statement. John Lasseter cannot be the only person on the planet capable of shaping a story to do this, can he?

The alternative is that you have to find a way to market a movie as NOT being explicitly for 5-year olds and then figure out how to get people to go see it. In a post-March 2020 theatrical market, that seems nigh impossible to do.

 

[mickEblu]

Well until you see the full movie, perhaps don’t comment about what you do t understand.

You’re too much

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Why is it disgusting that I don’t want that stuff In rated PG animated children’s films?

Because kids can handle the presence of gay characters just fine and the double standard that a gay relationship is any different than a straight relationship is homophobic.

A prince and princess in a relationship is the same as a prince and a prince, in terms of age appropriateness.

 

[mickEblu]

A prince and princess in a relationship is the same as a prince and a prince, in terms of age appropriateness.

No it’s not.

 

[brideck]

Why is it disgusting that I don’t want that stuff In rated PG animated children’s films?

You keep emphasizing the PG rating. Is 13 when kids are old enough to suddenly know about gay people? Just trying to understand where you're coming from.

In neither of the two movies primarily being discussed is anyone's gayness particularly front and center or truly even important to the plot -- it's just simply there. One could argue that this is even a weak point of Strange World, as the grandpa (who is portrayed as a real rough-and-tumble survivalist type) doesn't even blink or even really acknowledge his grandson's homosexuality when he mentions it to him. Good from the perspective of normalization, probably not a particularly three-dimensional characterization, though. But then, having an added conversation there would have made the movie more about being gay, which contrary to popular belief, Disney is probably actually trying to avoid.

 

[LittleBuford]

You keep emphasizing the PG rating. Is 13 when kids are old enough to suddenly know about gay people? Just trying to understand where you're coming from.

Relatedly, what exactly is the issue with kids knowing about gay people? They know about criminals and murderers from Disney films, but gay people are somehow too much for them to take?

 

[mickEblu]

You keep emphasizing the PG rating. Is 13 when kids are old enough to suddenly know about gay people? Just trying to understand where you're coming from.

In neither of the two movies primarily being discussed is anyone's gayness particularly front and center or truly even important to the plot -- it's just simply there. One could argue that this is even a weak point of Strange World, as the grandpa (who is portrayed as a real rough-and-tumble survivalist type) doesn't even blink or even really acknowledge his grandson's homosexuality when he mentions it to him. Good from the perspective of normalization, probably not a particularly three-dimensional characterization, though. But then, having an added conversation there would have made the movie more about being gay, which contrary to popular belief, Disney is probably actually trying to avoid.

I think PG 13 would be a better cut off. By 13 it’s more natural to have that discussion with your child. But I don’t think it should be in any Disney full length animated feature. But they would never make one of those movies PG 13 anyway so kind of a moot point. I think it’s confusing for young kids.

 

[BuddyThomas]

No it’s not.

It's pretty sad when someone has nothing better to do with their time the week before Christmas except splatter all sorts of homophobia on a Disney chat board.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Does anyone think this movie would have been successful if the son had a crush on a girl instead of a boy?

There’s so much focus on gay this or gay that people seem to be overlooking that the movie wasn’t very good, same with Lightyear.

Add a secondary gay character in a quality movie like Inside Out and I don’t think anyone even cares (Oaken in Frozen For example), the simple truth is Disney is making bad movies right now, their inclusion key timing just makes for an easy target.

A few days ago someone shared a quote from Disney saying they are foregoing good scripts if they don’t meet their inclusion standards, that “gay aspect” may be affecting quality but I don’t think a couple minute of secondary characters carries the weight many think it does.