Stop the "If Walt was alive"!!!

[Tom P.]

Disneyland was commonly referred to as "The Magic Kingdom" for most of it's life.

If being a member of these forums has taught me anything, it's this.... I am apparently nowhere near as funny as I think.

I thought the middle name thing was over-the-top enough to give it away as a joke, but I guess I'm going to have to stick to putting emojis in everything.

 

[DisneyMann]

I think what OP is trying to get at is his distaste for people constantly complaining about the state of the company. I, too, get a little annoyed by that as well, and I mostly argue pro-Disney to play devil's advocate (and to have a little fun as well ).

But, OP, if you think Walt would be satisfied with the state of today's company you are grossly wrong. Even I'm not too blind to see that. As someone stated before, read up on your history and it's clear how much the parks have deviated from his original vision.

As an aside, OP, if you want to make a compelling argument, avoid using and capitalizing over-generalizations. I'll make bold some of the words you should avoid using next time you want people to believe what you're saying. "100% of those statements are so ignorant and NONE of those people have ANY clue what Walt would have wanted or thought in 2018."

I'm not even remotely saying that everything is ok because not everything is.

Since we are not him why bother saying what we believe he would think or feel. It's pretty simple actually. Who knows, maybe a he would have become a greedy old man and the parks would be worse....while highly doubtful it's still a possibility but we have no idea.

I love everyone's opinions....just stick to our own opinions and not try to say what Walt's opinions would be.

In regards to the last part, you are correct in the generalizations in how it was worded.

 

[DisneyMann]

You mad, bro??

...if we try to be honest, walt disney would have likely bankrupted Disney or been removed like his son in law was...

The idea of “Epcot” was pure fantasy and a path to embarrassing bankruptcy...

So Walt’s way probably wouldn’t have worked long term.

BUT...that doesn’t mean that Disney catering to an increasingly mentally LAZY clientele in Orlando isn’t a real thing...

That’s crossing the streams

Igon....you said crossing the streams was bad

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Igon....you said crossing the streams was bad

...but it can be good...

 

[DisneyMann]

...but it can be good...

True.....to get rid of a nimble little minx and a giant marshmallow man.

 

[DisneyDoctor]

I'm not even remotely saying that everything is ok because not everything is.

Since we are not him why bother saying what we believe he would think or feel. It's pretty simple actually. Who knows, maybe a he would have become a greedy old man and the parks would be worse....while highly doubtful it's still a possibility but we have no idea.

I love everyone's opinions....just stick to our own opinions and not try to say what Walt's opinions would be.

In regards to the last part, you are correct in the generalizations in how it was worded.

I respect your opinion as well, my friend. I think, though, we know enough about him and his values that it’s pretty easy to predict his opinions on the current state.

Hey, at least we agree on one thing, the parks could use a little TLC.

 

[NormC]

Walt does not care what anyone thinks.

 

[DisneyDoctor]

Walt does not care what anyone thinks.

 

[NormC]

No, it is actually a fact.

 

[DisneyDoctor]

No, it is actually a fact.

I'm assuming your replying to me..

If you could site your source to prove this fact I would be very grateful.

 

[NormC]

No source needed. I am sure you can find Walt's Obit if you google it. He stopped caring on Dec. 15, 1966.

 

[DisneyDoctor]

No source needed. I am sure you can find Walt's Obit if you google it.

This could go down a path that I really don't want it to, so I'll end it here.

 

[NormC]

 

[DisneyDoctor]

Also, FWIW, I think the link in your signature is really awesome! Kudos to you for doing that

 

[NormC]

Thanks. This is my eighth year and I will keep on doing it as long as I am physically able to or there is no longer a need. Cancer sucks.

 

[Jedi Stitch]

Why do so many people think they have intimate knowledge of Walt Disney and what he would and wouldn't like??

Between posts here and on most of the Facebook pages in the comments sections, it's so tiring and ridiculous for people to say "it's not would Walt would have wanted" or the like.

100% of those statements are so ignorant and NONE of those people have ANY clue what Walt would have wanted or thought in 2018.

Just because someone had some historical knowledge of the man, it doesn't mean you know him or what he would think 50 years after his death.

I would have to agree that no one person can know exactly what another is thinking. One could stipulate that based off the common knowledge and material about Walt, that both an educated guess and reasonable assumption can be made.

 

[Tom P.]

I think one thing is certain. Walt would have demanded the return of Stitch's Great Escape.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

I think one thing is certain. Walt would have demanded the return of Stitch's Great Escape.

Walt wouldn't allow an attraction to be closed on a seasonal basis, even a bad one.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Walt wouldn't allow an attraction to be closed on a seasonal basis, even a bad one.

From what I understand... a bad one would be quickly gone, so no need for a seasonal shut down.

 

[networkpro]

There is no Magic Kingdom in Anaheim. The one and only Magic Kingdom is in Walt Disney World. The similarly themed park in Anaheim was originally just called Disneyland, later renamed to Disneyland Park.

Is it pedantic to point this out? Possibly. Is it irrelevant, since everyone understood what you meant? Certainly. But this is the Internet and "pedantic and irrelevant" is my middle name. (Well, Earl actually.)

In this day and age, it would be more à propos to couch your terminology in terms of business units or cost centers as they don't exist separately, but rather as a part of the corporation. Each might have its own target audience, but they are wholly owned by the Disney corporation and not one of its joint ventures.