Rumor Stitch's Great Escape Replacement— Don’t Hold Your Breath

[voodoo321]

Nobody is asking for any kind of elaborate backstory for NRJ. But at least some fragments of a story would be nice to make it more interesting and fun to fill in the blanks. Even the new waterslide at TL gives you that.

Back to Stitch.

I am lucky enough, depending on your perspective, to have been around when M2M and AE were there respectively. I experienced AE as a teenager. If the attraction existed today, I wouldn't take a small child on it. It was an intense experience. The show design was damn near perfection. It would be just as effective if it was running today. No videos can convey the experience.

If it had been an opening day attraction at MGM it may still be there. It WAS scary and was supposed to be. I'm on the fence on whether it belonged at the MK. There were warning signs but I can understand why some parents ignored them. I don't think any child was scarred for life but I can sympathize with both points of view. I am also somebody that isn't on the bandwagon about Stitch. I don't think it was a bad attraction. I think some criticism of it snowballed and it became hip to hate it. A few tweaks with the script and effects couldve made it a very decent attraction but its pariah status would've never been overcome.

 

[Timothy_Q]

I get that. I mean to say that I really don't know who this Shaman of Songs is in the grand scheme of things. Essentially, why I should care if I see her or not at the end of this boat ride. If canon, guests would be more invested in the ride and her specifically. The non-story meander through the river and seeing her as the finale means little to me. But boy are those plants a-glowing!

I really wish they would have explained why I should care about any of these rides!

I can’t invest myself unless I’m following a basic narrative I've already seen before in a movie!
I don't know who these characters are!

It's just plants and rocks!
Imagineering is dead!

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

I really wish they would have explained why I should care about any of these rides!

I can’t invest myself unless I’m following a basic narrative I've already seen before in a movie!
I don't know who these characters are!

It's just plants and rocks!
Imagineering is dead!

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Those worlds aren't foreign to us! Pandoria is. Storytelling, place-setting and characters; they're important. More-so here especially if the plot of this attraction is to essentially watch their world unfold before us. Instead the ride is 90% background ambiance, 10% AA, cause... we got to have an AA in there somewhere.

 

[Timothy_Q]

Those worlds aren't foreign to us! Pandoria is. Storytelling, place-setting and characters; they're important. There should be more so here especially if the plot of this attraction is to essentially watch their world unfold before us. Instead the ride is 90% background ambiance, 10% AA, cause... we got to have an AA in there somewhere.

The ride should definitely be longer, nobody is arguing that.

But if you can't enjoy what's already there because you're unable to understand a single character you haven't seen before in a movie, and the rest is just "background ambience", maybe you should try the little mermaid ride. It's easy to follow

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

The ride should definitely be longer, nobody is arguing that.

But if you can't enjoy what's already there because you're unable to understand a single character you haven't seen before in a movie, and the rest is just "background ambience", maybe you should try the little mermaid ride. It's easy to follow

They're just basic questions that should have been asked during the development of the ride. Not saying that I can't or don't enjoy what's there; though it is repetitive and visually monotone with repeat viewing. I'm simply stating that what was done isn't the most compelling or creative way to showcase Pandoran life, especially when the ride aims to do just that and only that. Taken solely as a themepark attraction; it lacking. It doesn't have to be thrilling but it does have to have a basic plot. Is it not fair to question who or what the AA in the ride signifies? Is it not fair to question where or why we're going on this river journey? Eh, I'm over it. I'll ride if waittime is low.

 

[voodoo321]

Whether or not we know the character or setting from a movie is not the issue. If a ride is set in an earthly location, exotic or not, there is built in context from a myriad of stories that we have all read, were told, or watched on Tv and movies. NRJ's setting is specific/singular, unless you want to just deem it "alien world" which would be lazy. The context doesn't have to come from previously having watched some movie. Build a loose idea of it in the queue or early in the ride. That's all.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Buzz, Alien Encounter, Monster's Laugh Floor, Timekeeper (gone but not forgotten) Tron, Tower of Terror, Na'vi River Journey. We've covered a lot of attractions in this Stitch thread.

Any Stitch replacement that may or may not happen wouldn't be a "people eater"

So a winged alien breaking off limbs, breathing on us and drooling with intense hunger is out of the question?

 

[RSoxNo1]

There's a lot in Pandora that is not canon to the movie that came out because the land is 50 years after Avatar 5. Bases on Avatar 1, you can't just plug into an avatar within a few minutes of showing up. That makes FoP non-canon. And the drums non-canon. And humans breathing the atmosphere non-canon.

But given that James Cameron put his seal of approval on everything, it is indeed canon. Avatar 2-5 won't contradict Pandora.

My understanding of the "breathing the atmosphere" is that the Flaska Reclinata (The Corn on the Cob plant covered in cold sores) is an air purifier that allows the Valley of Mo'ara to have an oxygen level tolerable for humans. In theory that's why we need an Avatar to travel outside of this area.

 

[WDWTank]

Any Stitch replacement that may or may not happen wouldn't be a "people eater"

Oh come on!

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Oh come on!

To be fair, Martin originally posted that way back in August of 2016 lol and in a different context.

 

[MisterPenguin]

My understanding of the "breathing the atmosphere" is that the Flaska Reclinata (The Corn on the Cob plant covered in cold sores) is an air purifier that allows the Valley of Mo'ara to have an oxygen level tolerable for humans. In theory that's why we need an Avatar to travel outside of this area.

I thought it removed the toxins from the atmosphere for the whole moon and we needed the Avatars so as not to be eaten by the Banshees.

And that's why we need to rub the Flaska to encourage it to spew it's seed across the land to grow more of them to continue to purify the land.

 

[larryz]

And that's why we need to rub the Flaska to encourage it to spew it's seed across the land to grow more of them to continue to purify the land.

Bow-chicka-bow-bow...

 

[Kman101]

I don't know why it needs an elaborate back story as it accomplishes what it sets out to do. I don't think anyone would deny it's short but what it lacks in length I believe it makes up for in charm and beauty. The entire land is around this idea we are visitors to their world. We are seeing the planet and discovering the world naturally. Like how when one visits a city, the people who live there carry on their daily lives. This is what the Shaman and the ride is about. Seeing things as they are presented naturally on the planet. The exception being the banshee link but even as we ride our banshees the people of the planet go on with daily life.

It is these subtle things that tie into the overall theme of Animal Kingdom. Harmony, tranquility, balance.

I agree with you.

It's why I don't dislike the ride like some. Many seem disappointed by it because it's not a "thrilling" attraction (like I think many are disappointed in Rivers of Light because it has no fireworks; they're used to "action" and many don't just appreciate the beauty of these things, even though yeah maybe they're lacking a tiny bit). We aren't being beaten over the head with what we're doing. I didn't realize we couldn't just enjoy a beautiful journey. Yes, it should be longer but they did a nice job. Rivers of Light needs a little more help than River Journey does. I get why some are let down, but I think they need to approach the ride and night show differently.

 

[Kman101]

Whether or not we know the character or setting from a movie is not the issue. If a ride is set in an earthly location, exotic or not, there is built in context from a myriad of stories that we have all read, were told, or watched on Tv and movies. NRJ's setting is specific/singular, unless you want to just deem it "alien world" which would be lazy. The context doesn't have to come from previously having watched some movie. Build a loose idea of it in the queue or early in the ride. That's all.

I can appreciate Pandora and I've seen all of a minute or two here and there of the movie. I've never watched it in full.

 

[Kman101]

Nobody is asking for any kind of elaborate backstory for NRJ. But at least some fragments of a story would be nice to make it more interesting and fun to fill in the blanks. Even the new waterslide at TL gives you that.

Back to Stitch.

I am lucky enough, depending on your perspective, to have been around when M2M and AE were there respectively. I experienced AE as a teenager. If the attraction existed today, I wouldn't take a small child on it. It was an intense experience. The show design was damn near perfection. It would be just as effective if it was running today. No videos can convey the experience.

If it had been an opening day attraction at MGM it may still be there. It WAS scary and was supposed to be. I'm on the fence on whether it belonged at the MK. There were warning signs but I can understand why some parents ignored them. I don't think any child was scarred for life but I can sympathize with both points of view. I am also somebody that isn't on the bandwagon about Stitch. I don't think it was a bad attraction. I think some criticism of it snowballed and it became hip to hate it. A few tweaks with the script and effects couldve made it a very decent attraction but its pariah status would've never been overcome.

You journey to see the Shaman of Songs. What more do you want? It's not a complicated story. I get it's not the most exciting ... and I'd love it to be a minute or two longer.

What you really want is some "action".

 

[mikejs78]

I agree with you.

It's why I don't dislike the ride like some. Many seem disappointed by it because it's not a "thrilling" attraction (like I think many are disappointed in Rivers of Light because it has no fireworks; they're used to "action" and many don't just appreciate the beauty of these things, even though yeah maybe they're lacking a tiny bit). We aren't being beaten over the head with what we're doing. I didn't realize we couldn't just enjoy a beautiful journey. Yes, it should be longer but they did a nice job. Rivers of Light needs a little more help than River Journey does. I get why some are let down, but I think they need to approach the ride and night show differently.

AK has that limitation though - they can't do fireworks because of the animals. Given that constraint, I think RoL is very well done. The areas it needs to improve have more to do with fixing the things that don't work rather than the approach in general...

 

[WDWTank]

AK has that limitation though - they can't do fireworks because of the animals. Given that constraint, I think RoL is very well done. The areas it needs to improve have more to do with fixing the things that don't work rather than the approach in general...

I really enjoyed Rivers of Light, the aspect of mixing water and lighting (pyro) is an excellent approach for the Animal Kingdom

 

[Dunston]

I really would like to know whose idea of fun is getting farted on... Journey Into Your Imagination With Figment, Stitch's Great Escape, and every "4D" Ride at Universal does it. It is only acceptable with that lovably smelly ogre Shrek, who is rude, crude, and fun for the whole family.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

Nobody is asking for any kind of elaborate backstory for NRJ. But at least some fragments of a story would be nice to make it more interesting and fun to fill in the blanks. Even the new waterslide at TL gives you that.

Back to Stitch.

I am lucky enough, depending on your perspective, to have been around when M2M and AE were there respectively. I experienced AE as a teenager. If the attraction existed today, I wouldn't take a small child on it. It was an intense experience. The show design was damn near perfection. It would be just as effective if it was running today. No videos can convey the experience.

If it had been an opening day attraction at MGM it may still be there. It WAS scary and was supposed to be. I'm on the fence on whether it belonged at the MK. There were warning signs but I can understand why some parents ignored them. I don't think any child was scarred for life but I can sympathize with both points of view. I am also somebody that isn't on the bandwagon about Stitch. I don't think it was a bad attraction. I think some criticism of it snowballed and it became hip to hate it. A few tweaks with the script and effects couldve made it a very decent attraction but its pariah status would've never been overcome.

Except there is a story. ACE is taking you on a river journey on a canoe at nighttime. That's it. That's all it needs to be. There doesn't need to be any characters or huge backstory. It's perfect.

 

[SuperStretccch]

I really would like to know whose idea of fun is getting farted on... Journey Into Your Imagination With Figment, Stitch's Great Escape, and every "4D" Ride at Universal does it. It is only acceptable with that lovably smelly ogre Shrek, who is rude, crude, and fun for the whole family.

The only 4D ride I know that does the farting is Despicable Me, but at least it smells like bananas...