Californian Elitist
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Your point still makes no sense.
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Star Wars themed land announced for Disneyland
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Your point still makes no sense.
Pam Hates Penguins
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And by your logic neither should this:
I haven't gone into much research with the Pirates Land coming to Shanghai. But remember. This is SHANGHAI. Pirates Land is alright there in Shanghai. I don't think the Pirates Land belongs with Disneyland. I'm alright with Star Wars Land in Disney's Hollywood Studios. But a whole Star Wars Land doesn't belong in Walt's original Magic Kingdom.
Travel Junkie
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Well, we don't know yet if any of the land will be visible from other areas of the park. Either way it's evident that people are going to complain about it.
You'll need x-ray glasses to see the MF from Frontierland.
Pam Hates Penguins
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I just hope we can't see it anywhere else in the park. When I go to Disneyland when it opens, I will rarely go to Star Wars Land. I will have to pretend that it's not there.
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Deleted member 107043
There's more to the land than the MF I hope.
mickEblu
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If you want to pretend it's not there why go at all ?
George Lucas on a Bench
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I would like to not be able to see it from anywhere in the park.
I would not like for the Millennium Falcon ride to be something like Mission:SPACE where you and several other people riding with you nonsensically ''interact'' by pressing buttons and using a manual steering column, AKA a joystick.
I would not like for the Millennium Falcon ride to be something like Mission:SPACE where you and several other people riding with you nonsensically ''interact'' by pressing buttons and using a manual steering column, AKA a joystick.
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I'm actually interested in having a conversation that gets to the root of why the inclusion of SW Land at Disneyland is upsetting for some fans. None of the major points being made by the people who dislike the idea are meaningful enough to sway my opinion.
The idea that the ROA is being drastically re-rerouted and/or destroyed by the SW Land expansion has been debunked. The notion that a major new addition to Disneyland that may feature battles, bloodshed, and strife doesn't belong in the park has been proven false because all of these themes have been staple features in several attractions for decades. There have been several strong points made that the "Walt wouldn't have approved" argument is invalid since no one could possibly know what his thoughts on the matter would be today.
I understand that some people just don't like SW or think a 14 acre land devoted to the story is overkill, but there's something about the idea of SW Land inside Disneyland that seems to have gotten under some people's skin in an emotional way, and I'm curious what it is.
flynnibus
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This is a practical consideration.. not a design principle. You mention the Matterhorn.. and as you say it really sits in both lands without a real separation... why? Because Walt decided it would be that way and they'd just do it. Now fans accept that as part of the charm of the park.. but don't rewrite history. Some times Walt just ignored his own past to do what he wanted now. The idea of the weinie does not apply to those sightline issues like things hangover over the top of buildings, etc. It's just a practicality of the park and they decided X was more important than Y.
Its more 'its always been that way..' and people just accept the lows with the highs.
The attention to sight lines is more about modern WDI principles than it is about 'hiding' it as if it doesn't belong.
Pam Hates Penguins
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Because the rest of Disneyland is great.
mickEblu
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No I mean why go to Star Wars land at all.
mickEblu
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Lol I've never been on Mission: Space but from how you and others have described it ... It sounds awful.
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This is early concept art, so the final product may look very different, but if the fantastic towering rock structures are built at the scale shown here it would seem impossible to hide them from every single angle that the public sees inside Disneyland.
Pam Hates Penguins
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Oh because I am interested in new things. But I won't go there often.
George Lucas on a Bench
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Looks more LOTR than SW.
Travel Junkie
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It's both. They designed it that way because it was practical and the park is laid out so it flows seamlessly from land to land.
Splash wasn't always next to HM, but from the day Splash was built it felt like it was always there. That was designed that way on purpose. Baxter has been quoted as saying part of the design was to blend in with HM even though it seems at first like they would conflict with each other.
George Lucas on a Bench
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I think they do sort of conflict. Suddenly, there's a cartoon mountain. I feel like Critter Country would have worked better on the other side of the river as a buffer between Frontierland and Fantasyland.
mickEblu
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My concern, as I stated earlier is that 14 acres and 3 attractions all for one IP in a small landlocked park is like you said , overkill. Especially when there are so many great stories that have no representation at the park. But I have no doubt that the land itself will be awesome. For the simple fact that it's 2016 and the imagineers will have a nice budget to work with.
I think for a lot of the people against SWL it just comes down to the idea that Star Wars doesn't feel Disney because they just purchased it and almost feels like they're merely Star Wars distributors. To be honest there's nothing about Force Awakens that feels like it was Disney-fied. Which of course was the right way to go about it. There's no way they could change the formula of the greatest phenomena in the history of Cinema. Disney did do a lot of things to ensure it was a success like getting JJ / Kasden on board etc.. But it doesn't feel like a Disney movie. Sure, classics like Peter Pan & Alice in Wonderland weren't original but the movies were 100% Disneyfied. Granted, most of the same people against SWL probably don't mind Indiana Jones and Star Tours but that's when the sheer size of the new land comes into play and turns folks off.
I would say most people's concerns about the ROA being butchered were a lot worse before the concept art and newer rumors came out.
So basically it just doesn't feel like Disney to people. Disneyland is one of a kind, it will always be the only park Walt walked in and there will never be another one. It's just kind of sacred to a lot of people, myself included, so any drastic changes are always frowned upon. Keep in mind we are talking about the fan community here and not the general population which I'm sure you are aware of.
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Travel Junkie
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This is early concept art, so the final product may look very different, but if the fantastic towering rock structures are built at the scale shown here it would seem impossible to hide them from every single angle that the public sees inside Disneyland.
It's very different to see the very tops of some rock work from Frontierland that actually fit the land than see HM and Splash sitting next to each other clear as day. I will take a guess and say the entrance to a Star Wars ride will not be seen from ROA.