Star Wars themed land announced for Disneyland

Phroobar

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What I think a lot of people miss is that Star Wars can be anywhere and at any time. The area doesn't have to look scifi or futuristic. It can blend in with many Fantasyland settings or even a Frontierland setting and still be Star Wars or really anything else. It's not like Harry Potter or Avatar that has a set environment. The whole land could easily be repurposed for non Star Wars stuff in the future. The best part of it is Disneyland gets more capacity, dead ends are eliminated and some great new e ticket rides. That is something it hasn't had in over twenty years.
 

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What I think a lot of people miss is that Star Wars can be anywhere and at any time. The area doesn't have to look scifi or futuristic. It can blend in with many Fantasyland settings or even a Frontierland setting and still be Star Wars or really anything else. It's not like Harry Potter or Avatar that has a set environment. The whole land could easily be repurposed for non Star Wars stuff in the future. The best part of it is Disneyland gets more capacity, dead ends are eliminated and some great new e ticket rides. That is something it hasn't had in over twenty years.

It is not a coincidence that the artists renderings of the new Star Wars land is heavily forested. It is designed to work both in Disneyland and the area of DHS where they already have partial facades of trees and such. ( Although some of the outside queuing area will look much different at DHS.)

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GiveMeTheMusic

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More capacity is great and I appreciate the effort to make it blend in. But that doesn't change the fact that DCA is still pulling 50% of Disneyland's attendance and this will throw that even further off balance in a park that is already bursting at the seams with crowds. As much as I hate the idea, I'd rather SWL and Marvel both go into DCA and give that park some pull against DL to alleviate crowding and attain a more even attendance ratio.

Why force this into DL instead of doing right by the property? SWL won't be able to expand in the future.
 

MoonRakerSCM

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Thanks, and great drawing (but I didn't know anyone still contributed/donated their work to Micechat--I find them greedy and ungrateful).
Oh, I could go on and on about my opinions of MC... but yeah, we agree on that one. I for some reason just found this place and by the looks of it so far the conversations are more thoughtful and meaningful...

The only correction I would make is the lower West side. The long Staff Shop building is where the service road will go. As a result, I think it unlikely the transition to SWL from CC will be near the exit to Splash. My guess is that it will be somewhere around Hungry Bear. But I'm flying in the dark on that one, just like everyone else.
So, from what you know, the long building (westernmost one) is going but the road will be there? There are other ways to do roads... have them tight in a spot, go under a structure via a tunnel for a portion, or what I'm thinking is perhaps have the road 'halfway' under a structure ala the back side of Carsland where there are open air access roads and space under the Cadillac range facade.

With the verification of the Rivers of America being rerouted, I can't see them doing a huge reroute (such as cutting TSI in half etc.). The amount of space in the area you have mentioned back stage and Big Thunder Ranch adds up to the '14 acres' number Disney has released... so there's no reason to severely truncate the river or to take out the Fantasyland Theatre. I think what we'll see is a 'slight' rerouting of the river to give the backstage portion of the new land more girth along that thin section etc. that's North of Pooh.

I still think they will connect SWL to CC as I mentioned, they need more than one pathway going in and out of the land... and since the land is going to take up space up to just north of Pooh, unless that long portion is one massive showbuilding, why not connect it to one of the major dead ends in the park?

Things will be exciting once January comes around!
 

Nland316

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I wish that somehow the RR had to cut completely through the Winnie the Pooh ride so they can demolish it and get hunny hunt lol.
 

Figments Friend

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I'm thinking... If Indiana Jones and and the Lost Temple had actually been built, would the DLRR had to have been re-routed? It would have, correct?

Are you referring to the massive concept that placed the IJA Attraction, the Jungle Cruise, a mine car ride, and the DLRR all in one huge show building?

If so, I believe the plan was to keep the train route as is, and just run it directly through the building.
Much like the Jungle Cruise...a portion of the waterway would have entered the show building and exited as if the 'temple' was just built around it.

Bryan Jowers concept art for that project was spectacular.
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Figments Friend

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Oh, I could go on and on about my opinions of MC... but yeah, we agree on that one.
I for some reason just found this place and by the looks of it so far the conversations are more thoughtful and meaningful...
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Welcome to the Disneyland Forum here on WDWMagic then, MoonRaker!
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We have some real, certified, insiders around these parts as well.
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Get to know them, and the conversations turn even more entertaining.
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1023

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Are you referring to the massive concept that placed the IJA Attraction, the Jungle Cruise, a mine car ride, and the DLRR all in one huge show building?

If so, I believe the plan was to keep the train route as is, and just run it directly through the building.
Much like the Jungle Cruise...a portion of the waterway would have entered the show building and exited as if the 'temple' was just built around it.

Bryan Jowers concept art for that project was spectacular.
:)

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Yes. That is all correct. There would have been "look-in" windows into JC and IJA.

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So now that this whole ROA thing has been confirmed I understand why another poster here (can't remember who) was insisting that construction is set to begin on SW Land early next year. It appears that the first construction phase will mostly be the rerouting of the ROA and DLRR to make way for the big expansion. The whole project is much larger and far more extensive than any of us first imagined.
 
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It really does. I know a lot of people are having a philosophical struggle with a non-Disney IP like SW being given such a big place at Disneyland, but you have to admit, this is shaping up to be this generation's New Orleans Square/TL '67.
 

1023

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It really does. I know a lot of people are having a philosophical struggle with a non-Disney IP like SW being given such a big place at Disneyland, but you have to admit, this is shaping up to be this generation's New Orleans Square/TL '67.

The concept isn't foreign. Indiana Jones and Star Wars have both been in the park for a very long time. Disney utilized or purchased other people's IP to make it his own. Alice in Wonderland was written by Lewis Carroll. Song of the South, Tom Sawyer, all of the fairy tales were someone's creations. The list goes on. After the movies were created, is that when they became Disney?

Great story telling is what makes something "Disney". Where the IP comes from is inconsequential. There is some great story telling in all of the recent acquisitions. Marvel, Avatar, Lucas Film are all great story telling. Building representations of these great stories makes sense. After all, most of the other attractions we enjoy are based on great story telling.

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