Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Who the hell knows? Or ever wanted to?
I never saw any of the skywalker boys fly...jump yes, but not fly...
...and one of them was apparently Jesus
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Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.
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Who the hell knows? Or ever wanted to?
I never saw any of the skywalker boys fly...jump yes, but not fly...
...and one of them was apparently Jesus
Wendy Pleakley
Well-Known Member
R.I.P. Star Wars.
The franchise had a good run, but when a movie makes only $300 million in profit (hypothetically, and not counting merchandise and home video revenue), it’s time to call it a day.
On a side note, R.I.P. Marvel movies as well. If The Last Jedi was a failure, just think how bad Thor did with just over $300 million at the box office.
Time for Disney to make $5 million catalog movies.
Wendy Pleakley
Well-Known Member
She pulled herself back, slowly, to a source of gravity. If you consider that to be “flying around”, sure?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Woah...you're gonna defend that? That's ground NOBODY...has dared tread upon.
Be careful on that koolaid...you'll spoil dinner
Gomer
Well-Known Member
I'm not a fan of the scene in any way really, but its not flying. In a 0-g environment the slightest force pull/push would accomplish what she did there. We've seen force leaps (many times) and controlled falls (Mace Windu in AotC, Luke in ESB) so a nudge through space back to the ship isn't really what bugs me there.
Taking a nap in a vacuum? That I have more of an issue with. But it doesn't bother me too much.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
That sarcasm would be more effective if it took into account what Star Wars is/maybe was...which is the most successful longterm franchised property in modern Hollywood history...
Maybe you don't care...but the suits and dividend watchers at Disney do...rest assured.
bclane
Well-Known Member
So true. An utter failure. Especially when you consider that they paid part of that huge pile of marketing money to their own TV stations. I mean who wants to pay themselves to cross promote their own product!
Accounting...it’s definitely more of an art than a science.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
It's horrid...can we drop the pretense defense and just leave this one on the battlefield?
Maybe If she wasn't 100% irrevocably DEAD...but it is what it is...
Wendy Pleakley
Well-Known Member
And paid themselves to do the special effects...
5!
4!
4!
Wendy Pleakley
Well-Known Member
Definitely “was”. With an $892 million worldwide gross after two weeks, put a fork in Star Wars. It’s done. No one is seeing these movies anymore.
At this rate, the Han Solo movie is probably going straight to Netflix.
Wendy Pleakley
Well-Known Member
Woah...you're gonna defend that? That's ground NOBODY...has dared tread upon.
Be careful on that koolaid...you'll spoil dinner
I didn’t defend it.
People who say this scene is the equivalent of Jedi flying around like Superman apparently saw something I didn’t.
bclane
Well-Known Member
Yup. I’d love to hear how much of the money they will end up paying to produce/market/cross promote and distribute this movie (I want the Blu-ray profits included of course) actually went right back into Mickey’s pocket when it’s all said and done. I think it would be a pretty interesting number.
Gomer
Well-Known Member
I'm not defending the artistic merits of the scene. Just trying to head off the inevitable debates we'll see about, "well why didn't Rey just fly there". The scene does not set up a precedent that Jedi can fly, or create plot-holes about why Jedi never flew in the past.
Gomer
Well-Known Member
Still is. This movie will drop in line, or less than, its predecessors for second movie in a SW trilogy. If it was successful before it is successful now. Unless you require unprecedented success to reach that mark.
Bairstow
Well-Known Member
You're right. The Superman comparison isn't accurate; the way she's flying isn't that fast.
It's probably more accurate to equate her ability with Mary Poppins, or Perhaps Peter Pan.
bclane
Well-Known Member
I’ll defend it. I’ve been waiting since 1980 to see Leia express her Force abilities. I mean she is a Skywalker after all so she should have insane Force powers right? That’s what I assume we all expect from someone with Skywalker blood anyway. So, finally after all these years she expresses her abilities in a way that was both unexpected and in some ways unique to her (though Jedi have been able to survive in the vacuum of space in the EU, and most if not all Jedi seem to be able to effectively Force push/pull). And when she finally uses the Force, she does something that she has always done. Rather than be the stereotypical princess who needs to be saved, she saved herself...and did it with style. In fact no one else could have helped her at that moment. The scene was therefore totally in line with who Leia has been as a person since Star Wars first came out in 1977. And frankly, if it is believable that a Jedi can force push or pull an object through the air in a gravity environment. why is it hard to believe that she could Force push/pull herself though space? Finally, it appeared to me that she was still within the shield barrier of the ship she was blown out of and perhaps that had something to do with it as well. To me the scene was shocking but not impossible in a galaxy populated with Force users.Woah...you're gonna defend that? That's ground NOBODY...has dared tread upon.
Be careful on that koolaid...you'll spoil dinner
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Ellen Ripley
Well-Known Member
Yeah, I just saw it again yesterday. I loved it even more the second time, it rivals Empire for me right now. I seriously can not understand the hate
bclane
Well-Known Member
I loved it too, and even more the second time I saw it as well. I wish it would have made everyone happy, but even ESB was divisive in some ways when it first came out. Perhaps over time more people will grow to love it like we do.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Superman, no...
I saw a apparently passed out semi-dead lady float through debris in the vacuum of space in what looked to be the same special effects as the matrix in 1999...