Star Wars: The Acolyte

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Not saying I have loved everything… cause I have not…but… except for The Rise of Skywalker…I have seen nothing in Disney Star Wars that would suggest that all those involved should have without hesitation believed it was an unmitigated disaster

Is the franchise diminished?

That’s an honest question

 

[TalkingHead]

This is exactly what I was talking about before… I don’t buy into the conspiracy theories that Disney is just inviting those favorable to Disney… Alan and Chris Gore keep getting early invites despite their constant criticisms of Disney…is it really that hard to imagine that Disney believes in the product… it’s those times when people don’t get invites till the day before or of… that is when there is a warning sign that the film/series may not be great

These two have been anti-Disney SW for years, they’ve gone to town on the failure of Wish and Disney animation generally, Disney’s embrace of DEI, the list goes on and on. The only possible explanations are early access credentialing is extremely sloppy, or they believe negative coverage has a way of boosting interest in the brand. Hate-watching is a thing.

 

[Disney Irish]

LFL was bought to be a major revenue and IP Source for Disney for decades to come…across all their business units and platforms

It’s hard not to belabor this point if we want to have serious discussions

I answered your question, if you want a different answer ask a different question.

 

[mysto]

I can't really trust critics or fans at this point when it comes to reviews for anything live action SW

In a world of influencers everyone is under the influence.

The twitter comment referenced was clearly a "HEY LOOK" piece. No one notices the others. <insert shocked reaction shot here>

 

[Jedijax719]

Not that it apparently matters, but Acolyte is at 94% for critics and 41% for audience. It IS interesting that back in 2017, people would just assume it figures because TLJ was "different" and "artistic" so critics liked it, but it also spat in the face of those who had loved the OT3 for so long and felt that Luke's destiny was mishandled as was Rey's lineage. Now, the audience gives Acolyte a 41% for "reasons" that aren't clear. Just "bad writing" which doesn't mean anything unless you can provide a solid example of what "good" writing would be.

The credentials to just be an okay SW movie or TV show have clearly become next to impossible to achieve by fans' standards. Nothing can just be "eh-it's okay, not bad". Instead everything is a new commentary on the unraveling of the entire SW life thread and why Disney is so horrible. That is, at least, anything that has to do with the Force and Jedi.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I answered your question, if you want a different answer ask a different question.

That wasn’t a question. It is a reality. You can decide if its working or not

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Not that it apparently matters, but Acolyte is at 94% for critics and 41% for audience. It IS interesting that back in 2017, people would just assume it figures because TLJ was "different" and "artistic" so critics liked it, but it also spat in the face of those who had loved the OT3 for so long and felt that Luke's destiny was mishandled as was Rey's lineage. Now, the audience gives Acolyte a 41% for "reasons" that aren't clear. Just "bad writing" which doesn't mean anything unless you can provide a solid example of what "good" writing would be.

The credentials to just be an okay SW movie or TV show have clearly become next to impossible to achieve by fans' standards. Nothing can just be "eh-it's okay, not bad". Instead everything is a new commentary on the unraveling of the entire SW life thread and why Disney is so horrible. That is, at least, anything that has to do with the Force and Jedi.

Probably the snowball effect.

It is what it is.

I’d love to rate a Star Wars movie…they can’t get any made

 

[Disney Irish]

Not that it apparently matters, but Acolyte is at 94% for critics and 41% for audience. It IS interesting that back in 2017, people would just assume it figures because TLJ was "different" and "artistic" so critics liked it, but it also spat in the face of those who had loved the OT3 for so long and felt that Luke's destiny was mishandled as was Rey's lineage. Now, the audience gives Acolyte a 41% for "reasons" that aren't clear. Just "bad writing" which doesn't mean anything unless you can provide a solid example of what "good" writing would be.

The credentials to just be an okay SW movie or TV show have clearly become next to impossible to achieve by fans' standards. Nothing can just be "eh-it's okay, not bad". Instead everything is a new commentary on the unraveling of the entire SW life thread and why Disney is so horrible. That is, at least, anything that has to do with the Force and Jedi.

What I find funny is the bad takes in the "audience" reviews on RT, "cheap look" and "doesn't look like Star Wars" was the common ones I saw. If Alan Ng and Chris Core said anything positive in their review/spoiler rants it was that this shows visuals looked great and looked like Star Wars, ie they spent money on this.

 

[Disney Irish]

That wasn’t a question. It is a reality. You can decide if its working or not

My response was in response to this -

It’s hard not to belabor this point if we want to have serious discussions

As I said if you want a different answer, ask a different question.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

What I find funny is the bad takes in the "audience" reviews on RT, "cheap look" and "doesn't look like Star Wars" was the common ones I saw. If Alan Ng and Chris Core said anything positive in their review/spoiler rants it was that this shows visuals looked great and looked like Star Wars, ie they spent money on this.

I didn’t think it looked cheap at all

I think they tried to lesson the CG look and didn’t try to use the volume so obviously as in some of the earlier stuff

I also think it was fairly dumbed down and the pacing is too quick? Somewhat reminiscent of George

We’ll see if that was necessary for story purposes?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

My response was in response to this -



As I said if you want a different answer, ask a different question.

You understand what a question mark is, right?

 

[Disney Irish]

You understand what a question mark is, right?

I do, but your lack of them and other punctuation (and proper sentence structure in general) in your posts is a common trend. So one can never tell with you what is a question, a snarky comment, or just rambling.

 

[Serpico Jones]

I thought the first two episodes were really good. This is not the same as Kenobi, that show was so awful I was embarrassed for everyone in it. Lee Jong-Jae is great and the sets, cinematography and cgi look professional which hasn’t always been the case with Disney+ SW shows.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I do, but your lack of them and other punctuation (and proper sentence structure in general) in your posts is a common trend. So one can never tell with you what is a question, a snarky comment, or just rambling.

That’s a statement, not a question.

And you don’t have to respond if you feel burdened.

Ever

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I thought the first two episodes were really good. This is not the same as Kenobi, that show was so awful I was embarrassed for everyone in it. Lee Jong-Jae is great and the sets, cinematography and cgi look professional which hasn’t always been the case with Disney+ SW shows.

Totally agree

 

[Trauma]

Not that it apparently matters, but Acolyte is at 94% for critics and 41% for audience. It IS interesting that back in 2017, people would just assume it figures because TLJ was "different" and "artistic" so critics liked it, but it also spat in the face of those who had loved the OT3 for so long and felt that Luke's destiny was mishandled as was Rey's lineage. Now, the audience gives Acolyte a 41% for "reasons" that aren't clear. Just "bad writing" which doesn't mean anything unless you can provide a solid example of what "good" writing would be.

The credentials to just be an okay SW movie or TV show have clearly become next to impossible to achieve by fans' standards. Nothing can just be "eh-it's okay, not bad". Instead everything is a new commentary on the unraveling of the entire SW life thread and why Disney is so horrible. That is, at least, anything that has to do with the Force and Jedi.

Yeah but if you filter the score by clicking Top Critics it’s actually a 74%.

That’s a large discrepancy and actually very unusual. The difference between “All” and ”Top” is usually 2-3% at most.

Something suspicious about how the score is boosted so high.

 

[Disney Irish]

That’s a statement, not a question.

And you don’t have to respond if you feel burdened.

Ever

I'm never burdened, the moment I feel burdened by posting here is the day I stop.

And my statement still stands as just a general FYI, if you want different answers to any question you ask of me, then ask different questions.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I'm never burdened, the moment I feel burdened by posting here is the day I stop.

And my statement still stands as just a general FYI, if you want different answers to any question you ask of me, then ask different questions.

I’ll remember that the next time:
1. I ask you question
2. I do so looking for a different answer

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yeah but if you filter the score by clicking Top Critics it’s actually a 74%.

That’s a large discrepancy and actually very unusual. The difference between “All” and ”Top” is usually 2-3% at most.

Something suspicious about how the score is boosted so high.

I’m not paying attention to ratings/scores anymore. Especially for Star Wars

The reality is it does not matter until the whole series is done?
Which is a big point on its own

 

[Phroobar]

I mean…that is her face…

It’s a gag

But I’m shocked that after decades reading Lucas archives type stuff this is the first I’ve seen this?

So we have a weather man and a dancer running things. What is next?