DHS Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance

[Josh Hendy]

You can thank Chapek and Iger for Rise opening weeks before Imagineering felt it was ready. They BEGGED for more time.

Blog Mickey dot Com (sorry don't know if linking is allowed) has posted a story titled, "Don't Visit DHS for now".

Not just because it is difficult and inconvenient to participate in the RotR lottery but because of the massive waits for other popular rides.

According to them. A bit of a black eye for WDW? Or is the Star Wars phenomenon so huge that almost any amount of inconvenience can be weathered.

Nobody in my family is a big Star Wars fan, I'm a casual fan ... but I guarantee they would be massively PO'd at me if I dragged them into DHS at rope drop, they failed to get into RotR and had 90-120 minute waits for everything else.

 

[drizgirl]

Blog Mickey dot Com (sorry don't know if linking is allowed) has posted a story titled, "Don't Visit DHS for now".

Not just because it is difficult and inconvenient to participate in the RotR lottery but because of the massive waits for other popular rides.

According to them. A bit of a black eye for WDW? Or is the Star Wars phenomenon so huge that almost any amount of inconvenience can be weathered.

Nobody in my family is a big Star Wars fan, I'm a casual fan ... but I guarantee they would be massively PO'd at me if I dragged them into DHS at rope drop, they failed to get into RotR and had 90-120 minute waits for everything else.

Did they issue a similar alert for DL? If they didn't then the issue was poor planning on Disney's part for not anticipating the impact of putting a high interest ride in a park without enough other things to do.

 

[Josh Hendy]

Did they issue a similar alert for DL? If they didn't then the issue was poor planning on Disney's part for not anticipating the impact of putting a high interest ride in a park without enough other things to do.

Only for DHS. They put the blame on the unreliability of the ride plus the decision to use a lottery system.

Disney has created the a boarding group process that demands planning and a lot of luck for a ride that many delayed vacations for until it opened. The expectations are high, but the reality is that you’ll likely be let down by the process. Unless you have three or more days to devote to the park and are willing to role the dice, we think that you shouldn’t visit Disney’s Hollywood Studios right now.

https://blogmickey.com/2020/02/dont-visit-disneys-hollywood-studios

 

[drizgirl]

Only for DHS. They put the blame on the unreliability of the ride plus the decision to use a lottery system.


https://blogmickey.com/2020/02/dont-visit-disneys-hollywood-studios

But DL uses a lottery system too, right?

 

[MisterPenguin]

But DL uses a lottery system too, right?

DL also has about 28 other functioning rides. DHS has 7.

Telling people to hold off on DHS until RotR is reliable and MMRR is open (and reliable) is not a bad recommendation for now... unless you have a hopper.

 

[Josh Hendy]

But DL uses a lottery system too, right?

I believe so, but the article goes into many factors unique to DHS such as, "a park without a lot of other ride options" or words to that effect.

 

[drizgirl]

DL also has about 28 other functioning rides. DHS has 7.

Telling people to hold off on DHS until RotR is reliable and MMRR is open (and reliable) is not a bad recommendation for now... unless you have a hopper.

I believe so, but the article goes into many factors unique to DHS such as, "a park without a lot of other ride options" or words to that effect.

That's exactly my point. DL could tolerate an unreliable ride with a ridiculous and convoluted access system because there's so much else to justify the price of admission. When that glitch happened and they were telling people there were plenty of other rides to do at DHS, I really just had to stop and reflect on what a ridiculous statement that was.

 

[Notes from Neverland]

Only for DHS. They put the blame on the unreliability of the ride plus the decision to use a lottery system.


https://blogmickey.com/2020/02/dont-visit-disneys-hollywood-studios

Eh ... that article is a stretch in my opinion. Maybe if it's a once in a lifetime trip and your lone goal is to ride everything in DHS, then maybe I can see taking that stance. Meanwhile, I know many that have traveled down there over the past week and had a great time at DHS. It's all about perceptions and expectations, which are purely up to the individual.

 

[flynnibus]

DL also has about 28 other functioning rides. DHS has 7.

Telling people to hold off on DHS until RotR is reliable and MMRR is open (and reliable) is not a bad recommendation for now... unless you have a hopper.

Man.. I wonder what their recommendation was before Disney added two whole new lands to the park...

 

[drizgirl]

Man.. I wonder what their recommendation was before Disney added two whole new lands to the park...

That probably depends on whether it was before or after they closed so much stuff.

 

[flynnibus]

That probably depends on whether it was before or after they closed so much stuff.

They closed 2 attractions no one cared about and one is still being transformed. Point being.. besides reporting the park is BUSY now.. if they are miffed about 'limited options'... they have a damn short memory

 

[drizgirl]

They closed 2 attractions no one cared about and one is still being transformed. Point being.. besides reporting the park is BUSY now.. if they are miffed about 'limited options'... they have a damn short memory

Two high capacity attractions and a high attraction show.

 

[MisterPenguin]

They closed 2 attractions no one cared about and one is still being transformed. Point being.. besides reporting the park is BUSY now.. if they are miffed about 'limited options'... they have a damn short memory

It's also crazy crowded now and I'm sure that's in the mix.

 

[Josh Hendy]

I don't know about this website but it looks like this article is about, "should you bring your family to DHS right now" not, "should you be happy with DHS because it was a lot worse 5 years ago".

In other words they are trying to assist typical Disney visitors allocate their limited time and money, not engage in a debate about Disney management coulda shoulda with local AP holders and hardcore Star Wars aficionados.

I'm interested in the coulda shoulda debate because it actually (should) concern Disney a lot about those typical visitors. Last time I went to DHS with first-time Disney visitors, they lost interest by noon and never returned to DHS for the rest of the week.

 

[flynnibus]

My friend has a theory. She thinks it might be peoples phones causing interference which causes the ride to go down. She has been told it was (still is) a common thing to happen on radiator springs racers. phones over seas run different frequencies than they do here in the states. And just happen to be the same as the ride ran. Now with so many international guests that visit both coasts it could be a potential issue. I would love to see if that's the case. Wonder if runaway railroad will fall in the same fate when it opens.

your friend should lookup regulated frequencies and understand how they operate verse open bands. Heres a hint... gsm phones operate in regulated bands

 

[RSoxNo1]

I had long said that Disney shouldn't have done the split opening for Galaxy's Edge. I'd like to rescind that comment and replace it with this one.

They should have opened each ride when they were ready. For Smugglers Run that was August 29th. For Rise of the Resistance, it hasn't happened yet.

 

[mergatroid]

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I'm interested in the coulda shoulda debate because it actually (should) concern Disney a lot about those typical visitors. Last time I went to DHS with first-time Disney visitors, they lost interest by noon and never returned to DHS for the rest of the week.

Interesting, we took 3 first timers last year and they returned to the park twice more, horses for courses as they say.

 

[easyrowrdw]

It's also crazy crowded now and I'm sure that's in the mix.

Yup. And the park is opening later and closing earlier than it was when Rise first opened. In December there were 7:00 AM opens and boarding groups lasting for hours rather than seconds. With fewer guaranteed BGs, cuts in characters, and shows not opening any earlier, it sounds pretty bad at HS right now.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

They closed 2 attractions no one cared about and one is still being transformed. Point being.. besides reporting the park is BUSY now.. if they are miffed about 'limited options'... they have a damn short memory

They closed 2 attractions that had high capacity and also provided a 20+ minute ride and both had good themed pre-shows that made waiting part of the experience.

They also closed an impressive stunt show that had hight capacity and was over 20+ long.

And of course the most tragic of all losses... the honey I shrunk the kids playground.

So that’s 4 attractions, plus a flex theatre that should have had a production in it.

 

[flynnibus]

They closed 2 attractions that had high capacity and also provided a 20+ minute ride and both had good themed pre-shows that made waiting part of the experience.

They also closed an impressive stunt show that had hight capacity and was over 20+ long.

And of course the most tragic of all losses... the honey I shrunk the kids playground.

So that’s 4 attractions, plus a flex theatre that should have had a production in it.

What specifically are you counting? They closed the backlog tour and the stunt show (and count the playpen if you want). Don’t count GMR because its coming back in a week...

The backlot tour was high capacity... but it hasn’t been used because no one cared anymore. The stunt show was a big people sink... but in terms of “more to do” at the park it wasn’t that meaningful for most.

They closed 2 attractions, another temporarily... and in their place they’ve added three kid centric rides (something the park woefully needed), doubled the capacity of tsmm, added two massive sw attractions, and a handful of other non ride experiences in GE.

Anyway you look at it, it’s a massive net positive in the list of thing for guests to get drawn to. So my point is... if you think the list for the park is not worthy.... I sure hope you didn’t look at the park 3 years ago...