That's exactly what the advantage was for non-resort guests. They showed up at 7:20 during EMH, got into the park to degrade a hotel guest benefit, and then got access to boarding groups just like those who paid for a resort room. And it's much worse than 'silly.'
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News Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance Standby Line and Boarding Groups at Disney's Hollywood Studios
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That's exactly what the advantage was for non-resort guests. They showed up at 7:20 during EMH, got into the park to degrade a hotel guest benefit, and then got access to boarding groups just like those who paid for a resort room. And it's much worse than 'silly.'
raven
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...unless you are trying to get your guests to spend more money. Disney Business Strategy #1: Create distractions in the parks/property for guests to spend more money on. The longer you keep them there the more they will spend.
And as of right now (8:45am) Rise of the Resistance is down.
SoFloMagic
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This is absurd. Why cant they stick to the plan? Any plan?
If you say 8 and you put up flyers and , just open at 8. That's the only way for this to be a fair process.
If you say 8 and you put up flyers and , just open at 8. That's the only way for this to be a fair process.
Timmay
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Why do you keep repeating the same worn out straw man argument over and over? Nobody that I can see is asking for what you claim they are.
It’s simple. Open when you say you are going to open, and make the boarding passes available when you say they are going to be available. It’s such a simple concept. There shouldn’t have to be any reading between the lines or similar such nonsense.
thehowiet
Wilson King of Prussia
Yeah it’s kind of mind-boggling how bad they are at this so far. Hopefully they figure this out soon. I wonder what their long term plan is for the attraction. This is not sustainable IMO, and demand will remain high for quite some time.
KevinPage
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Also I’m guessing that Disney sees how many people are waiting to enter the park after extra magic hours, plus how many people that Already here early from the hotels and will probably take advantage of it.
They knew that all of those people would suck up all the boarding passes, so why wait and give them out 40 minutes later, if they’re going to be sucked up by everyone in the park now? Give them out.
so the people who show up at 7:55 or 8 o’clock see that they’re gone as opposed to being annoyed and not be able to get it when they’re actually in the park.
Some people are gonna be ed off no matter what. But if you come to park and see they are gone (as opposed to get here and still don’t get it), you’re anger is probably less.
They knew that all of those people would suck up all the boarding passes, so why wait and give them out 40 minutes later, if they’re going to be sucked up by everyone in the park now? Give them out.
so the people who show up at 7:55 or 8 o’clock see that they’re gone as opposed to being annoyed and not be able to get it when they’re actually in the park.
Some people are gonna be ed off no matter what. But if you come to park and see they are gone (as opposed to get here and still don’t get it), you’re anger is probably less.
BoarderPhreak
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Disney's still learning... They've now limited people to one boarding group per day.
Timmay
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I believe the complaint was buses not running Until well after the unannounced park opening. That’s a valid concern. Again, none of what your outlandish posts claim. I’m not sure what ax your trying to grind, but you assertions are way off base.
Do we know that's not just for someone with an ACTIVE boarding pass?
So they’re running the most in demand ride ever conceived at under capacity and fewer hours than other rides. (So it closes at park close)
It’s almost like they are still doing live ride testing still for a ride not yet ready.
It’s almost like they are still doing live ride testing still for a ride not yet ready.
Yep.
It's a little early in the life-cycle of this phenomenon to attribute the mis-information campaign to corporate malice. I don't think Disney is intentionally trying to milk extra per-cap spending out of this (for now, at least), or reward specific classes of guest. I think the are simply trying to figure out how to manage 50,000+ people that want to ride an attraction that seems to be capable of a daily capacity of around 10,000. On top of that, it's an attraction that many early reviews have enthusiastically proclaimed worth waiting 5 hours for. There's no easy way to do this.
I do think there's something fundamentally wrong with the idea that if you show up at the scheduled park opening time, you're late and completely out of luck. I think there's something even more fundamentally wrong with being explicitly told "8am" when going to bed the night before, then waking up to find out you really needed to be ready well before 7:30 to have a shot.
As a local, I'm not getting within a mile of this until the situation stabilizes a little and the rules (and operations) become more predictable. It sucks if you're eating up your vacation time trying to figure this out though... and if I was paying thousands to be here this week I'd feel justified in expressing my dissatisfaction with communications from guest services.
I do think there's something fundamentally wrong with the idea that if you show up at the scheduled park opening time, you're late and completely out of luck. I think there's something even more fundamentally wrong with being explicitly told "8am" when going to bed the night before, then waking up to find out you really needed to be ready well before 7:30 to have a shot.
As a local, I'm not getting within a mile of this until the situation stabilizes a little and the rules (and operations) become more predictable. It sucks if you're eating up your vacation time trying to figure this out though... and if I was paying thousands to be here this week I'd feel justified in expressing my dissatisfaction with communications from guest services.
Timmay
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Which still has nothing to do with what your post claimed people were, or will start, whining about.
It’s all about accurate info and communication. For whatever reason, you want to divert that valid concern into something that simply doesn’t exist on the scale you claim it does.
This is exactly what should be done. 8 hour standby, so be it. At least guests can then make that decision themselves if they want to wait. The way it is now many people are just completely locked out, even though they were at the park at park opening.
Or before park opening...
RobWDW1971
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Agree from the guest POV, but from Disney’s perspective this is a win-win. They can opaquely manage the demand for the attraction with no headlines about downtimes, guest complaints about standing in line for several hours only to have it breakdown or even worse not reopen, etc. They can allow 1,000 or 10,000 on the attraction based on operational status and the average guest will never know. From a PR standpoint, the main message getting out is “demand for ride is so high all reservations are gone for the day as soon as the park opens”. They also don’t have to manage a mile long line of angry guests.
As a guest it is WAY too complicated when they just want to go on a ride on vacation, but I get why they are doing it.
I’m referring only to the use of boarding groups not opening them before announced, which I agree adds more frustration and conflict than value.
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Disneyhead'71
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I am completely fine with all the boarding groups being gone 30-40 mins. after park opening. I am not ok with all the boarding groups being gone an hour before the announced park opening.
Why is that so hard for folks to understand?
Why is that so hard for folks to understand?
AshaNeOmah
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I fought this for hours here Friday and just gave up. People don't want to admit lying to some guests to give an advantage to others who ignore procedure isn't fair. Once again, it's mind boggling.
BoarderPhreak
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Yes.