Wow, thanks! This is something that has perplexed me for years!!
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flynnibus
Premium Member
Because ride shutdowns create havoc with FP+ and wait times because the ride is fully committed to giving out slots and returns... when they don't even know if the ride is running.
This system is way better than FP because of the reliability (or lack thereof). Plus who wants to stand in line for 4 hours if you didnt get a FP.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Well by that logic.. instead lets pick a fight that actually has real impact. Like 1 ticket price for any day of the year, crowds that actually vary and have off seasons, and no more festivals or parties to create fake demand.
Deal?
You're arguing Disney should keep doing the same thing... without acknowledging that the scheme the whole thing lives in is changing as well.
disneygeek90
Well-Known Member
It’s one day. One out of a probable 5+ night stay. They’re not all showing up to ROTR on the same day either, it’s naturally staggered as any given day those same resort guests are going to Mine Train or FoP rope drop.
On top of that, it’s simply not fair to assume all 90,000 want to ride or even meet the height requirement.
The more people there are that aren’t willing to show up early actually benefits me. I just don’t follow the logic that one morning of one vacation is the deal breaker.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Well your guess would be pathetically wrong.
What WDW are you visiting where the property is dead quiet every day before 9am?
Want something to blow some people's minds? Disney enables people to run a race WHILE ON VACATION... even ON A CRUISE. And I'll leave it to you to find out what times those people commit to make those happen.. even while on vacation
flynnibus
Premium Member
If you are worried about what time to be there... don't ride a bus. Get an uber and be there 30mins before the gates open. That's your failsafe way to not have to stress over any of it.
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
Not the exact same thing. Obviously there will be some version of fastpass / reservations. That’s here to stay I’m sure.
But are you suggesting Disney shouldn’t operate rise just like all the other attractions once it’s actually ready to open?
The logic is most people don't get up that early for a ride. That's the truth. You don't have to believe it, but that it the actual truth. The logic is to make the ride available past park opening and throughout the day when currently you have less than zero chance of riding unless you are up at 5:30am.
That's what I mean. I get peppered by people like you. A very small minority that it benefits when I was just suggesting to make it fair for the majority and not the minority like you. You are proving my point exactly with that comment why this needs to be tweaked. Thank you.
disneygeek90
Well-Known Member
What’s the tweak though?? The people that want to wake up at 9am and don’t want to prioritize ROTR aren’t going to be the ones that get in a 180 min standby line at 11am.
This quote by Disneygeek is exactly what I'm talking about and why Disney is taking surveys to change the rise access
"The more people there are that aren’t willing to show up early actually benefits me. I just don’t follow the logic that one morning of one vacation is the deal breaker."
Let me guess, you've ridden ROTR at least 5 times right?
proving my point
"The more people there are that aren’t willing to show up early actually benefits me. I just don’t follow the logic that one morning of one vacation is the deal breaker."
Let me guess, you've ridden ROTR at least 5 times right?
proving my point
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flynnibus
Premium Member
I'm saying arguing for the 'the way things used to be' is a fallacy if you don't take the whole system into account.
If the ride opened 1 month later - there is nothing reliable to date to say that the attraction would be running differently than it is now. We haven't heard the attraction is being held back or not being able to do what they need at this point.
DL on the other hand... is a trainwreck. And they had MUCH longer and had previews, etc.
The TL
R - the arguments for 'do it like they used to' are copy-cat arguments, not merit based arguments. They think if you just did what was done previously.. everything would be fine... because.. it worked before! Vs acknowledging the game itself is different.This attraction has been running for over a year internally... more 2 more weeks of previews or soft openings wouldn't have changed where we are at now, or even a month ago.
Angry Warlock
Active Member
You've got the wrong phone. It should take less than 1 second. It does on most phones.
I don't know. my earlier post had suggestions from other people.
1) limit in state AP holders to one ride per week
2) open morning EMH for resorts guests only 1 day or 2 days a week
3) stagger BGs throughout day
again not my suggestions, just others I've read that would make it more fair to everyone not named disneygeek
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KevinPage
Well-Known Member
I’ve basically avoided even addressing the nonsensical complaints about not getting on the ride/current system until now, as its all just laughable sour grapes from people not here or on vacation. Talk about FOMO, so rag on something from a distance (Congrats, you’re like every typical person on the internet)
I wake up at 5:30 Mon- Fri for work and so does my older daughter for school (and she complains every school day that it starts too early). But when we got up at 3am in December and now 5am in January every Saturday (and sometimes Sunday) not only does she not complain, she wants to. WHY? Because we both love Star Wars and this ride!!!!!!
Would we all like to sleep to 8am on the weekend? HECK YEAH. I could eat breakfast, watch TV & relax. But we make a choice that RISE is worth giving those things up.
As a society we’ve basically understood that the early
gets the 
for many many years (on just about everything), but somehow NOW we suddenly need to change the rules of life for those not willing to sacrifice anything?!?!? 
Strangely enough there are thousands of people every day since December 5th getting up early to experience this attraction.
Lol. Funny post. Crazy and insane. But funny.I’ve basically avoided even addressing the nonsensical complaints about not getting on the ride/current system until now, as its all just laughable sour grapes from people not here or on vacation. Talk about FOMO, so rag on something from a distance (Congrats, you’re like every typical person on the internet)
I wake up at 5:30 Mon- Fri for work and so does my older daughter for school (and she complains every school day that it starts too early). But when we got up at 3am in December and now 5am in January every Saturday (and sometimes Sunday) not only does she not complain, she wants to. WHY? Because we both love Star Wars and this ride!!!!!!
Would we all like to sleep to 8am on the weekend? HECK YEAH. I could eat breakfast, watch TV & relax. But we make a choice that RISE is worth giving those things up.
As a society we’ve basically understood that the early
Strangely enough there are thousands of people every day since December 5th getting up early to experience this attraction.
disneygeek90
Well-Known Member
Number 3 would actually be a lot less beneficial to a lot of people with slower phones and fingers. They’re never getting on no matter when they arrive.
You realize FL is a state right? There are people in GA that are closer then some in FL. It’s not just people in Orlando with local APs. They could be 6 hours away and coming for multiple days at a time (and staying on property) Not to mention the super locals probably have jobs so are only there once or twice a week anyway. As was already mentioned, they aren’t riding 7 days a week, the majority of the time it’s resort guests, regardless of what you choose to believe. So 1& 2 are useless, especially since you argue that resort guests don’t want to get up early.
Number 3 is just silly, people would have to leave parks/activites to rush over to DHS to try for a BG release? Or sit in the park for 8 hours in hopes of getting one if they miss the first few BG? If they are willing to do that they are willing to get up early (which as already mentioned will change too)
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TrainsOfDisney
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Well I would hope that they “need” it to operate at its expected hourly capacity on a regular basis throughout park hours, which includes letting everyone who enter the q up until closing ride.
I don’t disagree with you though, they had ALOT of time to build this thing and eventually you have to figure out something that will work. The BG’s do work... sort of. They worked better with the 6 am open in my experience.