News Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance Standby Line and Boarding Groups at Disney's Hollywood Studios

nickys

Premium Member
Yikes. 7:04 AM? Awful.

None of this would have happened if they had just strictly enforced arrival and opening times from the beginning instead of continuously shifting both earlier and earlier. Example: Park opens at 9? Parking lot opens at 7:30. Touchpoints and boarding passes open at 8:30. Strictly enforced, no exceptions. Anyone who thinks Disney couldn't handle this or that allowing 10,000 people to gather before the touchpoints is somehow better doesn't understand crowd control methods.

How would they have stopped people walking from the Epcot resorts? Blocked the path with barriers? And then risk one almighty crush as people ran towards the entrance of the park!

Or stopped cars queueing up behind the barriers to the parking lot. Are there even barriers?
 

disneygeek90

Well-Known Member
Before, getting there early enough pretty much guaranteed you a boarding pass. What they've done now is created a lottery. So now you both have to get there early AND might not get a pass, it's even worse than the already unnecessary extremely early lining up they've been allowing but didn't have to.
And in your scenario getting there early enough would still pretty much guarantee a pass.
 

nickys

Premium Member
Before, getting there early enough pretty much guaranteed you a boarding pass. What they've done now is created a lottery. So now you both have to get there early AND might not get a pass, it's even worse than the already unnecessary extremely early lining up they've been allowing but didn't have to.

But you just said they should have enforced the opening time, without exception.

I’m confused, what exactly do you think should have happened?
 

Hawg G

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Building something never done before.

A simulator platform that is on an elevator? That seems to be the only thing new in the ride. It uses EVERYTHING done before, but very little NOT done before.

What they SHOULD have done different was a trackless ride vehicle with 3 rows of four. You know, like Spiderman has had for 20 years.
 

Tom Morrow

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How would they have stopped people walking from the Epcot resorts? Blocked the path with barriers? And then risk one almighty crush as people ran towards the entrance of the park!

Or stopped cars queueing up behind the barriers to the parking lot. Are there even barriers?
I'm still confused as to why so many people think Disney can't control crowds on their own private property where they can do whatever they want. You stop people from entering from the Epcot resorts by stationing a security guard on the path. Done.

How would they stop the massive early crowd buildup at the entrance gates?

- Strictly enforce a parking lot opening time about an hour and a half before official park open (which is typical I believe) and publish this information online. This would quickly be spread through all WDW fansites in addition to the official site/app. Despite what some say, Disney is more than capable of handling this by simply stationing a security vehicle at the dedicated offramp exit into the DHS parking lot, not by holding people at the parking lot toll booths. This forces any early arrivals to keep driving as there is no stopping allowed lest people want to deal with OPD, and after a few days it would be their own fault for not getting the memo and trying to show up early.

- Yes, the same amount of people would still be there at official opening. The difference would be that the parking lot booths and parking directors would create a natural filter to trickle people in. With less time between parking lot opening time and allowed park entrance, the crowd waiting at the touchstyles would not build up to such crazy extremes that they are forced to open early for safety reasons.

- This allows the earlier arrivals to still get the earlier boarding groups while not shifting the crowd demand earlier than necessary. This is better than what they have now where you still need to be inside the park before the official opening time but now may not get a boarding pass.

You can argue that these methods aren't sustainable, but neither is staffing your entire theme park three hours earlier than normal every single day for the foreseeable future. We're talking a handful of extra security guard positions vs. staffing the entire park earlier than necessary.
 
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Tom Morrow

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But you just said they should have enforced the opening time, without exception.

I’m confused, what exactly do you think should have happened?
I meant enforce something like, "official park opening is at 8:00, touchstyles will open 30 minutes prior", and stick with this instead of arbitrarily changing it like they've been doing.

Even if they continue to open the boarding groups at official park open, arbitrarily letting more people in early only makes the "lottery" aspect of the situation at 7:00 worse. The more people past the touchpoints at 7:00. the more random everyone's chances of a boarding group become.
 
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Twirlnhurl

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So, are foreign visitors SOL, as they only have a sliver of hope to get a BG using the Disney WiFi?

Yesterday when my app was acting up, I actually wasn't able to get the boarding pass until I turned Disney wifi on. I'm not sure if that was related to my issue, but three minutes into attempting to get a boarding group, I tried turning on the wifi and it worked. But your mileage may vary.
 

tribbleorlfl

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So, I've been out of pocket these two weeks with family and holiday commitments. Can someone summarize the past couple hundred pages and let me know what the current BG process is, what time people have been getting there, etc?

Tomorrow is our anniversary and have dinner ressies for Boma, but are now thinking about spending the day out there.
 

DryerLintFan

Premium Member
So, I've been out of pocket these two weeks with family and holiday commitments. Can someone summarize the past couple hundred pages and let me know what the current BG process is, what time people have been getting there, etc?

Tomorrow is our anniversary and have dinner ressies for Boma, but are now thinking about spending the day out there.

Get there when you get there, but make sure you have enough time to get through security and the tapstiles by the time the park opens

All the thousands of people who got there on time will be logging into the app at the same time to get a boarding group. You might get one, you might not. You might get a back up group, which can work out. But it's a lottery at this point like fastpasses are at 7 am. Hope your app doesn't glitch.

Everything else is the same, I think
 

disneygeek90

Well-Known Member
So, I've been out of pocket these two weeks with family and holiday commitments. Can someone summarize the past couple hundred pages and let me know what the current BG process is, what time people have been getting there, etc?

Tomorrow is our anniversary and have dinner ressies for Boma, but are now thinking about spending the day out there.
No need to really be there more than 30-45 mins before the posted open time. BG's will open directly at the open time, and over 100 groups can potentially be snatched within the first 5 mins, depending on the crowds. Being in the park at the open time is a must, then its somewhat the luck of the draw.
 

relic827

Well-Known Member
have there been any reports of someone not being able to get a group despite being in the park at opening time? I know there’ve been a couple days where a few backups weren’t called, but I mean someone is in the park when the ball drops and is unable to get any kind of group at all. Just curious...
 

tribbleorlfl

Well-Known Member
Get there when you get there, but make sure you have enough time to get through security and the tapstiles by the time the park opens

All the thousands of people who got there on time will be logging into the app at the same time to get a boarding group. You might get one, you might not. You might get a back up group, which can work out. But it's a lottery at this point like fastpasses are at 7 am. Hope your app doesn't glitch.

Everything else is the same, I think
No need to really be there more than 30-45 mins before the posted open time. BG's will open directly at the open time, and over 100 groups can potentially be snatched within the first 5 mins, depending on the crowds. Being in the park at the open time is a must, then its somewhat the luck of the draw.
Thank you both for the info. Am I correct in my understanding they've still been opening the turnstiles at 6:30 and holding people on Hollywood Blvd? Just trying to figure out how long it takes to get through security and into the park right now.
 

Chet Dakota

Well-Known Member
Thank you both for the info. Am I correct in my understanding they've still been opening the turnstiles at 6:30 and holding people on Hollywood Blvd? Just trying to figure out how long it takes to get through security and into the park right now.
. Today, they opened the gates at about 6:10. They let people go past the theater to the left or right, depending on what land you wanted to rope drop.
 

el_super

Well-Known Member
There may not be such a thing as perfect capacity -- but there is such a thing as adequate capacity.

Could you imagine sitting in for a ride pitch and WDI saying "we have an idea for a great attraction with this super advanced cutting edge ride system" and then Iger cuts them off and says "sorry boys, we only build slow moving boat rides at Disney."

Part of the attraction of Rise is the innovative ride system. It's part of what separates what Disney can do versus their competitors. They could have built Small World with Kylo Ren and BB-8, but what's the point of having all that capacity if the experience isn't thrilling enough to garner a crowd?
 

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