Star Wars Land Announcement This Month?

[Chef Mickey]

No offense, but I think the backlash happens because you come off as someone who blindly believes everything that Disney creates is automatically great, and everything everyone else creates is terrible. You may not really believe that, but it's how it comes across in your messages.

And that's OK. Not trying to hide my Disney apologist opinions. I do think Disney is the best, but I'm also their biggest critic because I know so much about how they were, how they are, and how they should/could be.

Maybe it's because I'm a shareholder too? (Thank you)

 

[marni1971]

Maybe it's because I'm a shareholder too? (Thank you)

Quite a few of us are.

 

[Chef Mickey]

I have, but I don't recall saying that either brand "sucks" Not even after the crap fest that our last trip to WDW turned in to. And it's funny how you say "That's what this board is all about" when it's also about talking about other brands yet you kvetched about people doing that very thing in the Disney/Uni or both thread.....

Again, we get it, you don't like Universal. But to say that it sucks is ludicrous and almost worthy of involuntary commitment to your nearest mental health facility.

I'm just telling you I'm not going to monitor how many times I say something if that's my opinion in multiple threads. That is what it's all about. If you'd like to disagree, feel free. That's what I'm doing and have no problem debating/discussing it. Just don't criticize how often I say something like saying it once is enough. You can say you love both a million times and I'll debate you, agree with you, or ignore you. I'm not going to criticize how you post unless you get personal with me. It's a discussion forum.

Lots of people agree on the HP sucks comment. I even got likes for it. I agree, it's somewhat strong and perhaps a blanket statement, but it pretty much sums up how I personally feel about the franchise. Just really awful.

 

[Chef Mickey]

Quite a few of us are.

Isn't it great? Yet another great day...

 

[cw1982]

I'm really not looking for affirmation from others on my opinions.

I've also said Disney and Universal aren't directly comparable because Disney doesn't do a lot that isn't family/kid oriented. Perhaps they should and could do more, but that's a different discussion.

Universal wishes it had the Disney reach. They are trying to catch up. Unfortunately for us, Disney is in a tough spot. They have record crowds, profit, and foot traffic but they are getting long in the tooth in some areas. They need to update, expand, and prepare for the future. I have been super critical of Disney in this respect. Universal is admittedly newer and more nimble, but they'll always lose the content battle. They'll always lose the Princess battle. They'll lose the nostalgia and family battle. There are incredible parks all over the world with incredible rides, but they aren't Disney.

I simply think many here are too hard on Disney for not taking a page out of Universal's book. For example, 7DMT was critiqued endlessly for being a disappointment, but I think Disney hit it on the head. Could it be more thrilling? Sure, but this isn't Universal. It's perfectly designed for kids and families, as intended.

Disney need not rest on their laurels, but Universal isn't this holy grail of theme parks. I don't even want to go because I can't relate to it. I'm obviously not the only one.

Who said you needed affirmation from others? I was simply giving my opinion... adding to the discussion. I don't doubt that you've said that Disney doesn't do a lot that isn't kid oriented, but I've certainly never seen you post about it; all I've seen you say lately is basically "Uni sucks and Disney is awesome" in fairly harsh tones. For you, they may lose the content battle, but there are those who disagree. Not everyone is enchanted by princesses lol. It all depends on what someone is looking for in a park. DH and I had a blast at WDW this last week, but his only negative comment was that there were so few attractions that were geared towards adults. His feeling on the matter is that Disney doesn't have as big of thrills as Uni does... even the bigger Disney coasters just aren't as big and scary as the Hulk or Dueling Dragons.

I don't know that there is such a thing as a "holy grail" of theme parks. They all have their pros and cons.

 

[danlb_2000]

I'm just telling you I'm not going to monitor how many times I say something if that's my opinion in multiple threads. That is what it's all about. If you'd like to disagree, feel free. That's what I'm doing and have no problem debating/discussing it. Just don't criticize how often I say something like saying it once is enough. You can say you love both a million times and I'll debate you, agree with you, or ignore you. I'm not going to criticize how you post unless you get personal with me. It's a discussion forum.

Lots of people agree on the HP sucks comment. I even got likes for it. I agree, it's somewhat strong and perhaps a blanket statement, but it pretty much sums up how I personally feel about the franchise. Just really awful.

I wouldn't say lots, it's definitely a minority opinion.

 

[cw1982]

Lots of people agree on the HP sucks comment. I even got likes for it. I agree, it's somewhat strong and perhaps a blanket statement, but it pretty much sums up how I personally feel about the franchise. Just really awful.

You said more than one thing in that post. How do you know that those likes were geared towards the part about HP sucking?

 

[DinoInstitute]

Im just sitting on my couch reading these posts and letting out a good chuckle at just about every one...

 

[Disneyfamily4]

I don't buy the rumor at all. That said, I think another possible location would be using Laugh Floor's space, especially since there is an expansion pad behind it that can be used for a very large scale project (I think the Tron bike coaster was planned to go in that location at one point).

I don't think we will ever see a Star Wars Land. Disney would not want to diminish the value they have in Star Wars Weekends. If they dedicated a land to all star wars, to the scale they would have to in order to get it done right, of course we would see a lot of Star War characters in the land area. Having that done would then eliminate the draw for Star Wars weekend.

So with that said, being that Star Wars will come out with two movies before Avatar Land is even completed, It is more likely every park will have something Star Wars incorporated to it, with then the huge event of Star Wars weekends still occurring.

 

[Mike S]

I don't think we will ever see a Star Wars Land. Disney would not want to diminish the value they have in Star Wars Weekends. If they dedicated a land to all star wars, to the scale they would have to in order to get it done right, of course we would see a lot of Star War characters in the land area. Having that done would then eliminate the draw for Star Wars weekend.

So with that said, being that Star Wars will come out with two movies before Avatar Land is even completed, It is more likely every park will have something Star Wars incorporated to it, with then the huge event of Star Wars weekends still occurring.

I think the draw of a huge Star Wars Land would be bigger than SWW and it would be there year round. Plus I'm sure SWW would still have a draw since the stars of the movies only come during that time.

 

[cw1982]

I don't think we will ever see a Star Wars Land. Disney would not want to diminish the value they have in Star Wars Weekends. If they dedicated a land to all star wars, to the scale they would have to in order to get it done right, of course we would see a lot of Star War characters in the land area. Having that done would then eliminate the draw for Star Wars weekend.

So with that said, being that Star Wars will come out with two movies before Avatar Land is even completed, It is more likely every park will have something Star Wars incorporated to it, with then the huge event of Star Wars weekends still occurring.

Silly question, but wouldn't that be like saying that the Food and Wine event at Epcot should not be so popular because there is so much food and wine already at WS? I'm not sure that SWW would diminish if Star Wars Land gets built. After all, there's more to SWW than just the Star Tours ride. There's things that would still only be there during the event, like getting autographs from the actual actors, and the special souvenirs that are only there during the event at Darth's Mall.

 

[cw1982]

I think the draw of a huge Star Wars Land would be bigger than SWW and it would be there year round. Plus I'm sure SWW would still have a draw since the stars of the movies only come during that time.

Sorry for my response being so similar to yours! I was typing at the same time as you I guess lol

 

[Mike S]

Sorry for my response being so similar to yours! I was typing at the same time as you I guess lol

No problem. You actually went into a little more detail than my post.

 

[Disneyfamily4]

We shall see and only time will tell, but I wouldn't hold your breath for Star Wars Land. Look at how long it will take for Avatar Land to be completed from the start of their concept til the completion date. Like I said, 2 star wars movies will be out before the completion of Avatar Land and if they start Star Wars Land after that, 6 movies would be released before we see the land. I would love to see it, but its not gonna happen.

 

[PrincessNelly_NJ]

I'm really not looking for affirmation from others on my opinions.

I've also said Disney and Universal aren't directly comparable because Disney doesn't do a lot that isn't family/kid oriented. Perhaps they should and could do more, but that's a different discussion.

Universal wishes it had the Disney reach. They are trying to catch up. Unfortunately for us, Disney is in a tough spot. They have record crowds, profit, and foot traffic but they are getting long in the tooth in some areas. They need to update, expand, and prepare for the future. I have been super critical of Disney in this respect. Universal is admittedly newer and more nimble, but they'll always lose the content battle. They'll always lose the Princess battle. They'll lose the nostalgia and family battle. There are incredible parks all over the world with incredible rides, but they aren't Disney.

I simply think many here are too hard on Disney for not taking a page out of Universal's book. For example, 7DMT was critiqued endlessly for being a disappointment, but I think Disney hit it on the head. Could it be more thrilling? Sure, but this isn't Universal. It's perfectly designed for kids and families, as intended.

Disney need not rest on their laurels, but Universal isn't this holy grail of theme parks. I don't even want to go because I can't relate to it. I'm obviously not the only one.

I guess you missed that in 2013 Universal's attendance jumped 14% (not even counting IOA who attendance only jumped 2%). And just wait until Diagon Alley opens!
Disney isn't the holy grail of theme parks either... yes, Universal may not have princesses and family draw that Disney does. But Disney lacks in so many areas too... Disney does not have the superhero draw that many young kids enjoy, they don't have any real "thrill rides," or night time options for adults.
I'm sorry if you can't relate to the rides at Universal but I grew up on E.T., the Simpsons, Harry Potter, Men in Black, the Mummy, Shrek, Jurassic Park, and even though they are newer movies, I love Despicable Me & Transformers!
And it is fine if you just can't relate to Universal but you act like they are nothing... You knock people for over critiquing Disney but promptly do the same for Universal.

 

[Disneyfamily4]

Silly question, but wouldn't that be like saying that the Food and Wine event at Epcot should not be so popular because there is so much food and wine already at WS? I'm not sure that SWW would diminish if Star Wars Land gets built. After all, there's more to SWW than just the Star Tours ride. There's things that would still only be there during the event, like getting autographs from the actual actors, and the special souvenirs that are only there during the event at Darth's Mall.

I don't know about everyone else, but I go to Disney twice a year. Once for a 2 week long trip, once for Star Wars weekend (because I am a Huge Star Wars nerd). If Disney came out with a Star Wars land, Its a guarantee that it will be full of meet and greets and character interactions. For that reason, I wouldn't bother spending money on an extra trip, when it will all be available during my two week trip.

For Marketing purposes, Star Wars Weekend is considered a rarity, with just a few weekends per year dedicated to everything Star Wars. Because of this rarity, 1000's and 1000's of people book a trip to be apart of it. If a land gets developed, that land that is available everyday would not be too different then the weekends, again, losing its draw.

Your food comparison is a horrible comparison.

I think if people took a poll here, they would agree that a huge meet and greet Star Wars Land would diminish the value of spending 100 per ticket just for Star Wars weekend.

 

[PhotoDave219]

I'll admit, this is just my pipe dream, and I don't see it happening, but I really think it would make sense.

Disney's greatest potential project lies with it's most underperforming park: Star Wars Land at DSH. Now that FLE is all finished, why not steal some of Uni's Potter thunder by announcing this major project right after Diagon Alley opens?

Like I said, I'll be happily surprised of it happens so soon, but it makes sense to me...

Okay, you say its a pipe dream but in your subject line you're stating it as fact?

Youre just an attention seeking troll.

Move along, everyone.... nothing to see here.

 

[TubaGeek]

Okay, you say its a pipe dream but in your subject line you're stating it as fact?

Youre just an attention seeking troll.

Move along, everyone.... nothing to see here.

In my experience, most facts don't include question marks.

And please, don't start with the name calling and negative attitude again.

 

[DinoInstitute]

All the value in SWW, such as Hyperspace Hoopla. .

I do not see SW added to multiple parks instead of one land. It just doesn't make sense for me, and would take in a lot less revenue IMO. How would it fit in Epcot? DAK?

@Disneyfamily4, I do not agree with you, it would not be just a m&g land, but you can't deny that a m&g or two would be vital to any SWL. But to your other point, they still could have A week or so in June where they have extended SW festivities.

The only problem is that there is either too much work to be done, or it won't make sense. My reasoning is, if they want a fully fleshed out SWL, they will need to extend into a new area not already occupied by the park, which would be an insane amount of just pre-construction, with re-routing the roads. If they didn't, then it wont make sense because it will have to replace too much and it will be a very choppy transition, and then there is the problem what to and what not to keep.

But why not just make 2017 the year of Disney?! That year Avatar will open; possibly the Ratatouille rumored ride in Epcot will be open, along with Frozen; and DHS could have at least a SW phase one complete, and if they really want they could even add a little something in Pixar, even if just a spinner.

If that happened, there is no doubt that people will regain their Disney trust and Uni will be caught by surprise and lose all of this momentum its been gathering lately, and not have a powerful enough comeback--making Uni the one with a Star Wars...swatter.

Assuming of course if Disney does it all right.

 

[TubaGeek]

Assuming of course if Disney does it all right.

You know what happens when you assume.