Even at twice the capacity there would be long waits. For a while, there will be reservations. Crowds will die down eventually and the desire to visit the Cantina will subside. Especially in DHS, as well as when ROTR opens. The land is not at full capacity yet, and we must keep that in mind when measuring wait times. By all accounts, the ROTR queue is long as hell. That will add a ton of capacity.
I hate to say it but I think long lines are the trade off of ambience. My family and I are going to be there on Aug 29-Sept 1 and I’m planning for 12 hour lines. We went to Star Wars Celebration in Chicago and waited 2+ hours just to get into the connection in the morning so I view this as the cost of trying to do what experience we want. I expect it to die down over the next year but I’m really not sure there’s a way around it aside from making the faculties huge which would take away from the immersive nature of the land.
I think the fact that Oga's is the only place in DL that serves alcohol will have a disproportionate effect as well. I think the Cantina is the perfect size theming wise. Practically, increasing its size would have a proportional impact on throughput, but it'd still be just as crowded, just less time waiting. The maximum occupancy of Oga's is 276. For comparison, Hollywood Brown Derby is 272, but the capacity is not calculated the same because HBD is a 100% sit-down restaurant and requires more square footage per person. It'd be far easier to cut the maximum time spent in the Cantina to 25-30 minutes to boost throughput. Does anybody need 45 minutes to finish a drink or two? Granted not all of that time is spent drinking, and I think Disney should, in the short-term, make the process more efficient. For example, order your drinks ahead of time and have them ready when you step foot in the door.
Call me crazy but I love spending time in the more immersive queues. They also soak up a ton of capacity, which is a good thing when it comes to lines for other things.
I think DHS will have less of a problem due to the fact that alcohol is already served elsewhere in the park. If Disney made efficiencies and cut the maximum time spent in the Cantina, they could cut wait times substantially.
If you don’t mind me asking, where did you get that number of 276 max occupancy for Oga’s? I’ve been trying to find a specific capacity number for a while now with no luck.
Same! It's been reported by Slashfilm. The figure is posted just above the entrance and to the left on a square-ish sign but I can't find a good picture that captures the figure, but I can barely make out the word "occupancy" on it, not on the below photo though which I just happened across now. (I believe the text just below is the standard: "This door must remain unlocked during...blah, blah, blah.")
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But wouldn't that be the point, less waiting. That's what the big complaints are. The other option was have 2 cantinas if you wanted the ambiance of a smaller place. One in the first order area and one more by the resistance. The land is underbuilt and it's a mistake that they opened it early without having everything ready. All that will/is doing is compounding the issues.
That's a fantastic idea. They could have Jim Cummings just add some quick new dialogue to pay tribute to han or maybe lando as well.
I have one of these and I wear it. Once a young Epcot CM asked me if I worked at Star Tours. He wasn't joking.
I think the next expansion will certainly contain another food and beverage location. I don't think the land is under built. I'm very impressed by its size. The Cantina is pretty big for a bar. I think once the desire to see everything dies down, the Cantina will be fine. I do think it was a mistake for Disney to open the land without ROTR for logistical reasons.
