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Star Wars Land announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios

HauntedMansionFLA

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I don't know about TDO, but I hope and pray for an opening day like DL's at DHS.

It's interesting because it seems GE is operating at a high level with good attendance, but that attendance isn't spilling over into the rest of the park.

Savi's and Oga's totally booked within 20 minutes. They already sold out of most of the hottest merch during the reservation period. There's not much more they could make money on other than food. So Galaxy's Edge itself is operating at full capacity and likely with no losses. But again, spillover of GE hopefuls into the rest of DL did not pan out. TDA probably sees that as an operational win, at the expense of ancillary profits from the rest of the food/merch outside of GE.
Totally different crowds go to WDW/DLR. DLR has the local crowds and WDW has the tourists that visit. DHS crowds will be insane with all of the Resort hotels on property. It should be a LOL time.
 

HauntedMansionFLA

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Here's an operational update from Disneyland on the first day of open access to Star Wars Land. I offer this as a compare/contrast because it appears the Disneyland strategy of three weeks of reservations followed by a "virtual queue" to enter the land has created a surprisingly low turnout. I can easily imagine that WDW management is learning from this and likely will amp up the marketing and ability to get into the land when it opens August 29th.

Early this morning as the sun rose over SoCal, only two or three dozen people had arrived early waiting to get into Disneyland at its 7:00am gate opening.



Closer to 7:00am the crowd had grown a bit, but was still tiny.



By this afternoon, Millennium Falcon had the longest line in the park by far (it is NOT offering Fastpass, only a regular line). But the wait times throughout Disneyland and DCA were very low for this time of year, with obviously light crowds. It was sunny and 78 degrees in Anaheim at 3:00pm when these E Ticket wait times were captured via the Disneyland App, so weather was perfect for a day at Disneyland. (I've cut and pasted the following from a thread about low wait times over in the Disneyland forum)

Pirates, Small World, Jungle Cruise, Haunted Mansion - 5 Minutes
Guardians of the Galaxy, Star Tours - 10 Minutes
Submarines, Incredicoaster - 15 Minutes
Indiana Jones Adventure - 20 Minutes
Splash Mountain, Thunder Mountain, Soarin' Over California, Grizzly River Run - 25 Minutes
Hyperspace Mountain, Matterhorn Bobsleds - 30 Minutes
Radiator Springs Racers - 75 Minutes
Millennium Falcon: Target Run - 80 Minutes


The rest of the C and D Tickets in both parks have more 5 and 10 minute wait times. Everything in Fantasyland is 5 or 10 minutes; Pinocchio, Snow White, Mr. Toad, Roger Rabbit, Casey Jr. Circus Train, Storybook Land, except Peter Pan's Flight at 30 minutes. Winnie the Pooh and Monsters Inc. dark rides are 5 minutes. The Canoes are 5 minutes. The six spinners in DCA plus Little Mermaid are all 5 minutes. Autopia and the Disneyland Railroad is 5 minutes. Buzz Lightyear is 10 minutes. Luigi's Roadsters and the Pixar death wheel is 15 minutes. Midway Mania is 30 minutes.


At 5:05pm they turned off the "Virtual Queue" and allowed anyone into the land, free-flow. The wait time for Millennium Falcon with the land wide open is now 60 minutes.

So, needless to say, after an extremely manageable three plus weeks of reservation-only access, Star Wars Land at Disneyland is now officially open for anyone who wants to go in. The result is a surprisingly low crowd turnout and very low wait times at both parks. Who would have thunk it?!?

We are talking over in the Disneyland forum how TDA must be in panic mode over this, but I do have to wonder how they will operate the opening of Star Wars Land at DHS based on the surprising low turnout at Disneyland?
Great post 👍
 

doctornick

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Especially in light of the soft crowds at DL, I'm guessing that WDW just does... nothing. No reservation, no tied entry, just chaos. They've already extended the hours, they'll just see how the card end up with opening. And with WDW being more tourist oriented than local, it will be a madhouse, similar to Pandora but much worse.
 

TP2000

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Great post 👍
Thanks. It's a really interesting phenomenon that's playing out this month at Disneyland. No one could have predicted this.

Crowds were modest and manageable for the three weeks of reservations only, so everyone thought the place would go nuts today for the first day of no-reservations and the Virtual Queue to enter the land.

Right now at 9:30pm Pacific Time, just finishing the first Fantasmic! at Disneyland and World of Color at DCA, as I watch the fireworks start here on my deck on a gorgeous SoCal summer evening, and wait times and crowds have collapsed further with Disneyland open until Midnight.

They turned off the Virtual Queue to get into Star Wars Land at 5:00pm today, the land has just been open to anyone who wanders in since 5:00pm, and currently the Millennium Falcon has a 30 minute wait time. All other E Tickets at Disneyland and DCA are 5 to 10 minute wait times. In short, Disneyland and DCA are dead as a doornail tonight and everything except Millennium Falcon is basically a walk-on. That's unheard of! :eek:

It will be interesting to see how the crowds develop through next week with the 4th of July, but suffice it to say we should see some visible panic from TDA and Burbank within a day or two via Parks Blog posts, TV marketing, etc.

How this also plays out with the opening of the DHS land just 60 days from now, and what WDW does differently, will also be fun to watch.
 
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justintheharris

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Thanks. It's a really interesting phenomenon that's playing out this month at Disneyland. No one could have predicted this.

Crowds were modest and manageable for the three weeks of reservations only, so everyone thought the place would go nuts today for the first day of no-reservations and the Virtual Queue to enter the land.

Right now at 9:30pm Pacific Time, just finishing the first Fantasmic! at Disneyland and World of Color at DCA, as I watch the fireworks start here on my deck on a gorgeous SoCal summer evening, and wait times and crowds have collapsed further with Disneyland open until Midnight.

They turned off the Virtual Queue to get into Star Wars Land at 5:00pm today, the land has just been open to anyone who wanders in since 5:00pm, and currently the Millennium Falcon has a 30 minute wait time. All other E Tickets at Disneyland and DCA are 5 to 10 minute wait times. In short, Disneyland and DCA are dead as a doornail tonight and everything except Millennium Falcon is basically a walk-on. That's unheard of! :eek:

It will be interesting to see how the crowds develop through next week with the 4th of July, but suffice it to say we should see some visible panic from TDA and Burbank within a day or two via Parks Blog posts, TV marketing, etc.

How this also plays out with the opening of the DHS land just 60 days from now, and what WDW does differently, will also be fun to watch.
I get the feeling Disney is in all out panic mode regarding the attendance at Galaxy's Edge.
 

ImperfectPixie

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I get the feeling Disney is in all out panic mode regarding the attendance at Galaxy's Edge.
Which is ridiculous because a land like Galaxy's Edge is a long-term investment, and many people planned trips to purposely avoid the opening. I personally know about a half dozen families who scheduled WDW trips for a month or two after opening, and even more who delayed their trips until after Christmas in order to avoid as much chaos as possible - specifically because they saw what happened when Pandora opened. These are families who want to experience Galaxy's Edge in Hollywood Studios...they just don't want to deal with huge opening crowds. And I think that's likely the case with Disneyland, too - people expected craziness, so they're being cautious about when to visit. Then there's also the fact that Rise of the Resistance isn't even open yet (and isn't opening right away at DHS, either). How many people are waiting until that 2nd ride is available before visiting?
 

LukeS7

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Thanks. It's a really interesting phenomenon that's playing out this month at Disneyland. No one could have predicted this.

Crowds were modest and manageable for the three weeks of reservations only, so everyone thought the place would go nuts today for the first day of no-reservations and the Virtual Queue to enter the land.

Right now at 9:30pm Pacific Time, just finishing the first Fantasmic! at Disneyland and World of Color at DCA, as I watch the fireworks start here on my deck on a gorgeous SoCal summer evening, and wait times and crowds have collapsed further with Disneyland open until Midnight.

They turned off the Virtual Queue to get into Star Wars Land at 5:00pm today, the land has just been open to anyone who wanders in since 5:00pm, and currently the Millennium Falcon has a 30 minute wait time. All other E Tickets at Disneyland and DCA are 5 to 10 minute wait times. In short, Disneyland and DCA are dead as a doornail tonight and everything except Millennium Falcon is basically a walk-on. That's unheard of! :eek:

It will be interesting to see how the crowds develop through next week with the 4th of July, but suffice it to say we should see some visible panic from TDA and Burbank within a day or two via Parks Blog posts, TV marketing, etc.

How this also plays out with the opening of the DHS land just 60 days from now, and what WDW does differently, will also be fun to watch.
This worries me that if Galaxy's Edge underperforms in the long run, Disney might revert to letting the parks stagnate for years again.
 

pdude81

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Give it a week at DL. Nobody thinks they will have any chance of getting in because of the carefully controlled opening. Once the virtual queue ends everything will normalize.

WDW will be a zoo as they have announced straight out the gate that everybody gets early access on day 1.
 

HauntedMansionFLA

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This worries me that if Galaxy's Edge underperforms in the long run, Disney might revert to letting the parks stagnate for years again.
Passholders are blocked out at Disneyland at this time and that’s their demographic. Let’s see what happens when DLR are able get access to the park again. WDW will be total chaos 😃All Of those resort hotels, it will be totally opposite opening day.
 

Keppyslinger

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Which is ridiculous because a land like Galaxy's Edge is a long-term investment, and many people planned trips to purposely avoid the opening. I personally know about a half dozen families who scheduled WDW trips for a month or two after opening, and even more who delayed their trips until after Christmas in order to avoid as much chaos as possible - specifically because they saw what happened when Pandora opened. These are families who want to experience Galaxy's Edge in Hollywood Studios...they just don't want to deal with huge opening crowds. And I think that's likely the case with Disneyland, too - people expected craziness, so they're being cautious about when to visit. Then there's also the fact that Rise of the Resistance isn't even open yet (and isn't opening right away at DHS, either). How many people are waiting until that 2nd ride is available before visiting?
You nailed it. (In my opinion.)
This is what I think. I have speculated that there will be an initial swell of attendance, followed by a lull as people wait for the land to be completely open. I think Hollywood Studios will be busy, just not insane until everything is open.
 

justintheharris

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Which is ridiculous because a land like Galaxy's Edge is a long-term investment, and many people planned trips to purposely avoid the opening. I personally know about a half dozen families who scheduled WDW trips for a month or two after opening, and even more who delayed their trips until after Christmas in order to avoid as much chaos as possible - specifically because they saw what happened when Pandora opened. These are families who want to experience Galaxy's Edge in Hollywood Studios...they just don't want to deal with huge opening crowds. And I think that's likely the case with Disneyland, too - people expected craziness, so they're being cautious about when to visit. Then there's also the fact that Rise of the Resistance isn't even open yet (and isn't opening right away at DHS, either). How many people are waiting until that 2nd ride is available before visiting?
Well this would be something never observed before in Disney theme parks. Everybody showed up for Pandora and Toy Story land undeterred by crowds. Why is Galaxy's Edge a different ball game suddenly?
 

mandstaft

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I think the park will be a mess once this opens. DL has like 50 more attractions. There Studios? Barely more than a handful worth visiting.
 

ImperfectPixie

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Well this would be something never observed before in Disney theme parks. Everybody showed up for Pandora and Toy Story land undeterred by crowds. Why is Galaxy's Edge a different ball game suddenly?
Because it has a much bigger fan-base - to the point that it will draw people who wouldn't previously have even considered a trip to DL or WDW.
 

DCLcruiser

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DLR/DCA is very different, as others have said. It's mostly locals who want to take pictures in their Minnie Mouse ears (I've never seen so many custom outfits on guests). People don't really fly to California for a Disney vacation like they do for WDW.

When I went last year (day after Pixar Pier opened w/ Incredicoaster) we got up super early for rope drop, waited in a big line for the coaster, and then the entire rest of DLR/DCA was basically empty. Between good planning and the app constantly throwing us free fast passes (due to maintenance issues) we only waited on one standby line the whole day (Incredicoaster). Little Mermaid Ride? 5 minutes.

I liked the parks a lot, and some rides like Pirates was better than WDW, but the overall feel is very different. Much more laidback. No need for a battle plan before you enter. We did both parks in one day.
 

justintheharris

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Because it has a much bigger fan-base - to the point that it will draw people who wouldn't previously have even considered a trip to DL or WDW.
The size of the fan base doesn't relate to the fact that people showed up for the others undeterred by crowds. And Wizarding World drew crowds on opening day too despite having a large and comparable fan base. What you said had no relevance to the question at hand.
 

ImperfectPixie

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The size of the fan base doesn't relate to the fact that people showed up for the others undeterred by crowds. And Wizarding World drew crowds on opening day too despite having a large and comparable fan base. What you said had no relevance to the question at hand.
Sorry...I think I mis-read or something. As I said in an earlier post, I think people are staying away based on what happened when Pandora opened and in the hopes of missing what they thought/think would/will be a madhouse and to wait for RotR to open.
 

mikejs78

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Passholders are blocked out at Disneyland at this time and that’s their demographic. Let’s see what happens when DLR are able get access to the park again. WDW will be total chaos 😃All Of those resort hotels, it will be totally opposite opening day.
Does anyone know when blackouts end?

Well this would be something never observed before in Disney theme parks. Everybody showed up for Pandora and Toy Story land undeterred by crowds. Why is Galaxy's Edge a different ball game suddenly?
The size of the fan base doesn't relate to the fact that people showed up for the others undeterred by crowds. And Wizarding World drew crowds on opening day too despite having a large and comparable fan base. What you said had no relevance to the question at hand.
Sorry...I think I mis-read or something. As I said in an earlier post, I think people are staying away based on what happened when Pandora opened and in the hopes of missing what they thought/think would/will be a madhouse and to wait for RotR to open.
I think everyone is missing the point that Orlando is *very* different than CA. TSL and Pandora openings were both Florida openings. I expect the same level of craziness come Aug 29.

SoCal is an entirely different beast.
 
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