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Star Wars Land announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios

MisterPenguin

Rumormonger
Premium Member
Wow they are really far behind Disneyland
Yes, but DHS SWL will have the advantage of not going first. Any defects in plans will be discovered first at DL. Any hiccups in implementation of the rides will be discovered first at DL. All the artists and other WDI staff doing stuff first at DL will presumably be able to move faster, after having done it already at DL. All the construction and WDI staff could presumably be shipped out to Florida once they finish in California and help the staff at DHS to get them hustling.
 
Yes, but DHS SWL will have the advantage of not going first. Any defects in plans will be discovered first at DL. Any hiccups in implementation of the rides will be discovered first at DL. All the artists and other WDI staff doing stuff first at DL will presumably be able to move faster, after having done it already at DL. All the construction and WDI staff could presumably be shipped out to Florida once they finish in California and help the staff at DHS to get them hustling.
Right, I think this has been overlooked when people are comparing progress. It makes no sense for them to construct simultaneously. Staggering construction by a few months is much more logical for the reasons that you lay out.
 

sedati

Well-Known Member
Really interesting to see what's in the base of the pit (a perspective never seen in the Disneyland pics.) Could it be the loading area for the trackless vehicles?
 

roj2323

Premium Member
What's being formed next to the Muppets building?
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My understanding is the SWL entry tunnel is also going to serve as an off stage entry point bridge that will allow cast to get from costuming to the back side of GMR off stage. (guests go under while cast walks overhead) I have yet to hear it be confirmed yet however and I'm still curious if it's going to be for vehicles or just pedestrians. Anyway regardless the major form work over by Muppets is the retaining wall that will hold something up, most likely a retaining wall that will get back filled to make the grade separation.
 

Mike S

Well-Known Member
That's the part that really fascinates me about the Star Wars Land clones shared on each coast. In Florida they are adding Star Wars Land to a half-day park (DHS) that only has 13 attractions currently - 5 of which are rides, and will have 9 rides total once Star Wars Land opens. In California they are adding Star Wars Land to a two-day park (Disneyland) that has 46 attractions currently - 34 of which are rides, and will have 36 rides total once Star Wars Land opens.

DHS in 2019 with Toy Story Land and Star Wars Land
16 Attractions - 9 Rides, 5 are E Tickets (
ToT, RnRC, Star Tours, Star Wars #1, Star Wars #2)

Disneyland in 2019 with Star Wars Land
48 Attractions - 36 Rides, 13 are E Tickets
(Space Mt., Star Tours, Submarines, Matterhorn Bobselds, Small World, Big Thunder Mt., Indiana Jones Adventure, Jungle Cruise, Pirates, Haunted Mansion, Splash Mt., Star Wars #1, Star Wars #2)

Those two parks couldn't be more different from each other. And yet they are cloning the exact same Star Wars project and its rides for each park to open within a year of each other. How that works in those two very different environments should be quite a study.
My guess is the same thing for both: IoA when HP opened but much, much worse.

Wall to wall people, full parking lots, backed up roads, dogs and cats living together, MASS HYSTERIA!!!
 

SirLink

Well-Known Member
Yea, but, at least then they can just postpone the opening and not get a huge crowd of people in there with nothing to do. I think it would be wise to experiment with a smaller audience.
Similar is true to Disneyland they could postpone it. They don't want that, also they wouldn't be able to 'experiment with a smaller audience'.

Feel free to believe me if you want to.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
Similar is true to Disneyland they could postpone it. They don't want that, also they wouldn't be able to 'experiment with a smaller audience'.

Feel free to believe me if you want to.
I never said they wanted too. I said that staggering offers them the chance to postpone if something big goes wrong in Anaheim. It is still better to upset a smaller audience then a big one which is what WDW is likely to become when the land opens up. It's not experiment it's more hedging their bets. If all goes well, they will open when scheduled, if not then they can put it off, and people will know why. WDW was the whipping boy for MM+, now it's DLR for SWL, if needed.
 

SirLink

Well-Known Member
I never said they wanted too. I said that staggering offers them the chance to postpone if something big goes wrong in Anaheim. It is still better to upset a smaller audience then a big one which is what WDW is likely to become when the land opens up. It's not experiment it's more hedging their bets. If all goes well, they will open when scheduled, if not then they can put it off, and people will know why. WDW was the whipping boy for MM+, now it's DLR for SWL, if needed.
If there was design defect they would have to postpone it by at least 2 years, which they don't want Disneyland has more guests than DHS so I fail to see your argument if anything it would be the other way round....
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
If there was design defect they would have to postpone it by at least 2 years, which they don't want Disneyland has more guests than DHS so I fail to see your argument if anything it would be the other way round....
Park for park perhaps, (somewhat doubtful once it is open) but, not per resort. With the new stuff, DHS will increase the overall numbers of people at the resort. DHS, not so much. Let's not get carried away to much on this anyway, it is just an opinion on why it might be a good thing for Disney to stagger it and make a guess on one of the possible reasons. Another would be you can't have the big wheels at both parks on the same day for the grand opening anyway and you know they are going to want to be there.

Plus strictly on the construction aspect, all of these jobs are done in sections, ground work, infrastructure, foundations, steel work, finish work (both art work and regular finish) landscaping, clean up. Usually all done by separate groups of skills. Many will be on both projects at one point or the other, be it labor or management. It saves on finding skilled people for both jobs and extends the sub-contractors to a possible second location thus making the process run smoother and even cheaper for all we know.
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
The pit is equivalent to October 2016 (six months behind DL). The walls around the Battle Escape attraction more like December 2016 (4 months behind).

I think the most telling part will be when vertical steel arrives.

Certainly the project is behind, but more importantly it doesn't seem to be falling further behind.

From what I'm aware of the 2019 was an under-promise, over-deliver type situation. Internal projections are still quite hopeful for late-late 2018 for DL and late spring/early summer for WDW. They've built themselves in 6 months of possible delays by promising both projects for 2019.
 
The pit is equivalent to October 2016 (six months behind DL). The walls around the Battle Escape attraction more like December 2016 (4 months behind).

I think the most telling part will be when vertical steel arrives.

Certainly the project is behind, but more importantly it doesn't seem to be falling further behind.

From what I'm aware of the 2019 was an under-promise, over-deliver type situation. Internal projections are still quite hopeful for late-late 2018 for DL and late spring/early summer for WDW. They've built themselves in 6 months of possible delays by promising both projects for 2019.
Without delays, DHS could do May 2019.
 
That's the part that really fascinates me about the Star Wars Land clones shared on each coast. In Florida they are adding Star Wars Land to a half-day park (DHS) that only has 13 attractions currently - 5 of which are rides, and will have 9 rides total once Star Wars Land opens. In California they are adding Star Wars Land to a two-day park (Disneyland) that has 46 attractions currently - 34 of which are rides, and will have 36 rides total once Star Wars Land opens.
I understand what you're saying, but DHS desperately needs this, and honestly, where else at WDW would it fit? I agree that it's going to be crazy busy (hopefully parking infrastructure, roads, etc. help), but I'll have no trouble spending full days at MK, DAK and Epcot...especially if they continue to add attractions and refurbish others. I've always been able to spend much of a day at DAK, and even longer soon with Pandora. And, I'm excited about all rumoured for Epcot, and MK, in the next 5 years. As a huge SW fan,I will of course visit DHS (some of my fave attractions are there currently) to spend time at SWL, but the other parks, DS and the water parks will still get much of my time.
 
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