Star Wars Land announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios

[Joesixtoe]

Like I said, I'm sure I will be able to enjoy the land. And I am very much looking forward to seeing the falcon. But I also fully understand why people are having issues. And I really can't argue against the issues.

I don't either, it was more about the decision to go with something not many really cared about over something everyone loved. And that is why star tours didn't get the same sort of backlash.

I agree

 

[peter11435]

Instead at the end of Toy Story Mania they opened up a store with a real Marshall's vibe.

I think that’s an insult to Marshall’s

 

[matt9112]

For me flying the Falcon was enough. Didn’t need to do the Kessel Run. Would’ve been nice to see Han though but I blame that more on Harrison Ford. If he was willing to do it I bet Disney would've set the land during or before Force Awakens somehow. For that they would’ve bent a little.

I disagree i dont think they would have let ford do it. They have there vision. Hes not part of it. Solos only role is to sell some more hasbro.

 

[matt9112]

Star Tours, 1987:

"Why are we entering some sort of airport instead of the Death Star or Star Destroyer?"
"Why are we flying on some sight-seeing ship instead of an X-Wing or the Millennium Falcon??"
"Why is the captain some droid we've never seen before instead of C3P0 or like Han Solo?"
"Why isn't Luke Skywalker in the attraction at all??"

Thats a ride. If disney did the same thing today with one ride but the land the experience was rooted in what we are familiar with it would work. You need to root us with the strong bones than you can have some meat hanging off here and there. For example the falcon ride could exsist as is in a more cohesively built planet that wasn't literally made up for the parks. Look land is pretty i will be there tommorow (again) but i whole heartedly feel the setting and more importantly the implementation of said setting was a poor choice. It is what it is hopefully ROTR is the greatest thing than sliced bread. I stand behind my opinion that the falcon is a C and its only a D to die hard sw fans. If you get all the easter eggs and nods and know hondo from the series you will see alot more value in it. The regular guest? Waiting legitimately 10x longer in line for a less thrilling and less intense ride than star tours.

 

[Mike S]

Thats a ride. If disney did the same thing today with one ride but the land the experience was rooted in what we are familiar with it would work. You need to root us with the strong bones than you can have some meat hanging off here and there. For example the falcon ride could exsist as is in a more cohesively built planet that wasn't literally made up for the parks. Look land is pretty i will be there tommorow (again) but i whole heartedly feel the setting and more importantly the implementation of said setting was a poor choice. It is what it is hopefully ROTR is the greatest thing than sliced bread. I stand behind my opinion that the falcon is a C and its only a D to die hard sw fans. If you get all the easter eggs and nods and know hondo from the series you will see alot more value in it. The regular guest? Waiting legitimately 10x longer in line for a less thrilling and less intense ride than star tours.

The Falcon is not a C lol

If you want a C go on Peter Pan.

 

[Tom Morrow]

Thats a ride. If disney did the same thing today with one ride but the land the experience was rooted in what we are familiar with it would work. You need to root us with the strong bones than you can have some meat hanging off here and there. For example the falcon ride could exsist as is in a more cohesively built planet that wasn't literally made up for the parks. Look land is pretty i will be there tommorow (again) but i whole heartedly feel the setting and more importantly the implementation of said setting was a poor choice. It is what it is hopefully ROTR is the greatest thing than sliced bread. I stand behind my opinion that the falcon is a C and its only a D to die hard sw fans. If you get all the easter eggs and nods and know hondo from the series you will see alot more value in it. The regular guest? Waiting legitimately 10x longer in line for a less thrilling and less intense ride than star tours.

Okay, this has been repeated ad nauseam, but there are no locations in any of the Star Wars films that are prominent enough to build a land around that also don't limit the land from changing and evolving (which, I strongly believe, it will). The closest usable location would be Tattooine, but then they're limited to the locations on Tattooine instead of an all-encompassing land. 95% of the Harry Potter series takes place in and around Hogwarts, Hogsmeade, or Diagon Alley. It's obvious if you were going to build a Harry Potter land, it should obviously include Hogwarts and also the familiar shops and eateries from the series. And then you have Cars Land, which was based on a franchise with one movie (at the time), so obviously you're going to build Radiator Springs. Star Wars, on the other hand, has a 40+ year legacy behind it in addition to 10 films and countless other media like the TV shows and video games. Generations upon generations of people have their own opinions of what Star Wars should be and I doubt you could ever get fans to agree on one specific planet from the series to limit everything around.

I wish more people understood this - creating a new planet where they can bring elements from all facets of Star Wars in one location was the smartest decision they could have made in terms of building a land htat fills the current ultra-realistic theming trend. The only other option would to build more of an abstract "Star Wars Greatest Hits" land, or again, limit an entire franchise by choosing one planet such as Tattooine.

Galaxy's Edge feels VERY much like a place that would exist in the Star Wars universe and is very in line with most of what we see in the films, which are often more run down slums with a touch of sci-fi. Batuu is like a nice mix of multiple planets we've seen. Futuristic sci-fi locations like Coruscant or Canto Bight wouldn't work because they stand out in the films as being affluent and different from most locations we see, and they would be harder to convey the feel of Star Wars because they would risk just looking like "generic futuristic sci fi city".

Batuu/Black Spire Outpost is awesome and beautiful. Their only mistake, in my opinion, was setting it during a very hard-defined point in the timeline when that aspect could have been left more vague, allowing for more elements from the OT, or at least not "Han Solo and Luke Skywalker are definitely dead at this time".

 

[Kram Sacul]

Okay, this has been repeated ad nauseam, but there are no locations in any of the Star Wars films that are prominent enough to build a land around that also don't limit the land from changing and evolving (which, I strongly believe, it will). The closest usable location would be Tattooine, but then they're limited to the locations on Tattooine instead of an all-encompassing land. 95% of the Harry Potter series takes place in and around Hogwarts, Hogsmeade, or Diagon Alley. It's obvious if you were going to build a Harry Potter land, it should obviously include Hogwarts and also the familiar shops and eateries from the series. And then you have Cars Land, which was based on a franchise with one movie (at the time), so obviously you're going to build Radiator Springs. Star Wars, on the other hand, has a 40+ year legacy behind it in addition to 10 films and countless other media like the TV shows and video games. Generations upon generations of people have their own opinions of what Star Wars should be and I doubt you could ever get fans to agree on one specific planet from the series to limit everything around.

I wish more people understood this - creating a new planet where they can bring elements from all facets of Star Wars in one location was the smartest decision they could have made in terms of building a land htat fills the current ultra-realistic theming trend. The only other option would to build more of an abstract "Star Wars Greatest Hits" land, or again, limit an entire franchise by choosing one planet such as Tattooine.

Galaxy's Edge feels VERY much like a place that would exist in the Star Wars universe and is very in line with most of what we see in the films, which are often more run down slums with a touch of sci-fi. Batuu is like a nice mix of multiple planets we've seen. Futuristic sci-fi locations like Coruscant or Canto Bight wouldn't work because they stand out in the films as being affluent and different from most locations we see, and they would be harder to convey the feel of Star Wars because they would risk just looking like "generic futuristic sci fi city".

Batuu/Black Spire Outpost is awesome and beautiful. Their only mistake, in my opinion, was setting it during a very hard-defined point in the timeline when that aspect could have been left more vague, allowing for more elements from the OT, or at least not "Han Solo and Luke Skywalker are definitely dead at this time".

Oh stop it. We’ve all heard countless times from the same crowd that Battu is an empty, ugly, war torn, generic sci-fi movie set with no emotional connection to the films. ::cough::

It’s obvious GE should’ve been set on Tattoine at the exact moment Luke and Obi Wan met Han so we can relive that 10 min over and over. No new setting, characters, or stories. Just what we saw on screen 40+ years ago. That’s it. Disney screwed it up so bad. It’s like DCA 1.0 all over again.

 

[Genie_naughty_whispers]

Exactly how old are you? If you were there when it opened, that was common conversation in the queue.

That is an impolite question

 

[erasure fan1]

Oh stop it. We’ve all heard countless times from the same crowd that Battu is an empty, ugly, war torn, generic sci-fi movie set with no emotional connection to the films. ::cough::

It’s obvious GE should’ve been set on Tattoine at the exact moment Luke and Obi Wan met Han so we can relive that 10 min over and over. No new setting, characters, or stories. Just what we saw on screen 40+ years ago. That’s it. Disney screwed it up so bad. It’s like DCA 1.0 all over again.

Lol, you remind me of Walter.

 

[mergatroid]

Okay, this has been repeated ad nauseam, but there are no locations in any of the Star Wars films that are prominent enough to build a land around that also don't limit the land from changing and evolving (which, I strongly believe, it will). The closest usable location would be Tattooine, but then they're limited to the locations on Tattooine instead of an all-encompassing land. 95% of the Harry Potter series takes place in and around Hogwarts, Hogsmeade, or Diagon Alley. It's obvious if you were going to build a Harry Potter land, it should obviously include Hogwarts and also the familiar shops and eateries from the series. And then you have Cars Land, which was based on a franchise with one movie (at the time), so obviously you're going to build Radiator Springs. Star Wars, on the other hand, has a 40+ year legacy behind it in addition to 10 films and countless other media like the TV shows and video games. Generations upon generations of people have their own opinions of what Star Wars should be and I doubt you could ever get fans to agree on one specific planet from the series to limit everything around.

I wish more people understood this - creating a new planet where they can bring elements from all facets of Star Wars in one location was the smartest decision they could have made in terms of building a land htat fills the current ultra-realistic theming trend. The only other option would to build more of an abstract "Star Wars Greatest Hits" land, or again, limit an entire franchise by choosing one planet such as Tattooine.

Galaxy's Edge feels VERY much like a place that would exist in the Star Wars universe and is very in line with most of what we see in the films, which are often more run down slums with a touch of sci-fi. Batuu is like a nice mix of multiple planets we've seen. Futuristic sci-fi locations like Coruscant or Canto Bight wouldn't work because they stand out in the films as being affluent and different from most locations we see, and they would be harder to convey the feel of Star Wars because they would risk just looking like "generic futuristic sci fi city".

Batuu/Black Spire Outpost is awesome and beautiful. Their only mistake, in my opinion, was setting it during a very hard-defined point in the timeline when that aspect could have been left more vague, allowing for more elements from the OT, or at least not "Han Solo and Luke Skywalker are definitely dead at this time".

Very well put.

 

[NoChesterHester]

The narrative that Star Wars Galaxy’s Edge is dead and a failure will hopefully dry up soon. It was the popular opinion to have. Over time as the rest of the plans come online and people forget that they are supposed to hate it the area will be recognized as the must do area in Hollywood Studios.

Contrary to the talking point, there are even walk around characters, which is really cool! I remember seeing that kind of thing at WDW decades ago, but this land is the only place I’ve seen it in the modern era.

 

[The_Jobu]

Batuu/Black Spire Outpost is awesome and beautiful. Their only mistake, in my opinion, was setting it during a very hard-defined point in the timeline when that aspect could have been left more vague, allowing for more elements from the OT, or at least not "Han Solo and Luke Skywalker are definitely dead at this time".

Very well said and I agree. Creating Batuu was a fine decision, had they set it earlier in the timeline, there would likely be little for people to complain about.

It’s obvious GE should’ve been set on Tattoine at the exact moment Luke and Obi Wan met Han so we can relive that 10 min over and over.

I'd guess that probably would be more popular with a lot of guests. People would love to relive moments with Luke and Obi and Han and Leia and Ackbar and Vader and... well, you get the idea.

Over time as the rest of the plans come online and people forget that they are supposed to hate it the area will be recognized as the must do area in Hollywood Studios.

I'm not sure where you got that opinion. That sounds like an odd attempt to come to terms with the fact that some people were disappointed in the land. Some people love it. It's only a failure in that its not nearly as busy as they hoped, but I would attribute a lot of that to Disney was just plain greedy. They've finally hit a wall with public perception of value.

 

[Jones14]

I should add that as far as merch is concerned, the land is not in danger of failing to meet expectations (in DHS at least). Droid Depot in particular is considered a runaway success, and much more popular than they expected it to be.

Food and beverage is not doing so hot, though.

 

[NoChesterHester]

I'm not sure where you got that opinion. That sounds like an odd attempt to come to terms with the fact that some people were disappointed in the land.

Really? Maybe just my perception but seems like 90 percent of the discourse has been really negative. There have been dozens of new voices popping up just to spread discontent. Anyone who had positive things to say were drowned out quickly.

 

[NoChesterHester]

I should add that as far as merch is concerned, the land is not in danger of failing to meet expectations (in DHS at least). Droid Depot in particular is considered a runaway success, and much more popular than they expected it to be.

Food and beverage is not doing so hot, though.

No question that the blue milk has failed to resonate. I’m pretty surprised they didn’t work harder on the recipe to make sure that didn’t happen.

What do you mean otherwise? Oga’s seems busy and it’s very expensive. (too small?) It could use a table service restaurant, but the counter service was pretty tasty for theme park fare.

 

[The_Jobu]

Maybe just my perception but seems like 90 percent of the discourse has been really negative.

I hear you, but I honestly don't see it being close to 90%. Maybe the negative reviews just stick out to you more because you had a great time?

I dunno. Seemed pretty balanced to me. Plus this place is a horrible way to judge outside reception. I dont think Joe-Average-Q-Publik thought they were supposed to hate the land before they got there.

 

[NoChesterHester]

I hear you, but I honestly don't see it being close to 90%. Maybe the negative reviews just stick out to you more because you had a great time?

I dunno. Seemed pretty balanced to me. Plus this place is a horrible way to judge outside reception. I dont think Joe-Average-Q-Publik thought they were supposed to hate the land before they got there.

No doubt this place has colored my perception of the fan community. It also seems the bloggers that I read / follow we’re falling over each other to write unfavorable things once the dam broke.

I’m right with you on the general public. The super fans represent such a tiny minority.

 

[The_Jobu]

It also seems the bloggers that I read / follow we’re falling over each other to write unfavorable things once the dam broke.

There's definitely some folks who have media channels whose voices seem much louder than reality because of their platforms. I doubt they're the majority. I watch a lot of vloggers and they all loved the land (but they also got special invites to check it out so I take their reviews with a grain of salt).

I think as long as they dont fall flat on their face with RoTR, attendance will pick up. Good rides draw crowds regardless of theme. I really think hubris got the better of the execs this time around. Casual fan looks at the place and thinks "there's one ride and like 7 places to buy things, plus they raised ticket prices". That's not much incentive to drop 10k to come down for the week.

 

[Jones14]

No question that the blue milk has failed to resonate. I’m pretty surprised they didn’t work harder on the recipe to make sure that didn’t happen.

What do you mean otherwise? Oga’s seems busy and it’s very expensive. (too small?) It could use a table service restaurant, but the counter service was pretty tasty for theme park fare.

Docking Bay 7 and Ronto Roasters seem to be the culprits here. Ronto doesn’t get enough traffic because people balk at the prices of what appears to be a snack bar (despite the wrap being the best food/beverage item in the land), and Docking Bay 7 has too confusing/complicated of a menu.

I’d guess the menu changes from a few days ago are an attempt at helping 7’s numbers, but I’ve no idea if there are any plans for Ronto Roasters. If it were me, I’d up the price of the wraps by a dollar and throw a soft drink in as part of a combo. If guests see that it’s a combo, it might register that the wrap is meant to be a meal and not a 13 dollar snack.

 

[NoChesterHester]

Docking Bay 7 and Ronto Roasters seem to be the culprits here. Ronto doesn’t get enough traffic because people balk at the prices of what appears to be a snack bar (despite the wrap being the best food/beverage item in the land), and Docking Bay 7 has too confusing/complicated of a menu.

I’d guess the menu changes from a few days ago are an attempt at helping 7’s numbers, but I’ve no idea if there are any plans for Ronto Roasters. If it were me, I’d up the price of the wraps by a dollar and throw a soft drink in as part of a combo. If guests see that it’s a combo, it might register that the wrap is meant to be a meal and not a 13 dollar snack.

Do you know it it compares to Satuuli Canteen? The food at Pandora is really excellent.