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News Star Wars Galaxy's Edge opening day reports - Disney's Hollywood Studios
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TalkingHead
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Some high quality whataboutism.
mikejs78
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I think there are three factors that are all contributing:
- September is one of the only "slow times" left at WDW. I think there's something to the fact that people with kids, even those who are willing to take their kids out of school for a Disney trip, are not as willing to do so during the first month of school. Disney probably thought Galaxy's Edge could change that. Maybe it can't.
- People do plan their trips 9-12 months in advance. With ADRs booking at 180 days, most people don't plan "last minute" trips to Orlando. And until just under 6 months ago, Late Fall was the advertised opening.
- The hurricane caused not an insignificant number of people to reschedule trips. With most WDW trips being 4-7 days, a hurricane in the middle of your trip is not something you want. Given the original forecast of Saturday and then the continuing delay, I suspect a large number of people postponed their trips and the effects of that started before Galaxy's Edge opened, and may not be over until this weekend. I.e. if you had a weeklong trip that started last Saturday, you rescheduled your whole trip...
Kram Sacul
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The "ignore" feature here is really undervalued. Half the Disneyland GE thread isn't visible to me.
You miss out on a lot of the comedy though. Some of the “Star Wars land hurt me” posts are pretty funny. At least the first 10 times.
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TP2000
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Oops! I edited my original post to reflect that the WDW wait times were 3:15pm Eastern Daylight Saving time.
planodisney
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West coast is fifteen minutes at 2pm. I really hope it stays like that a while longer!Interesting Star Wars crowd dynamic on both coasts. Does Orlando get the big influx of after-work locals on Friday like Disneyland does? Today is the first day of HalloweenTime at Disneyland, and Haunted Mansion Holiday opened today for its 2019 season. The wait times at Disneyland are mirroring those at WDW, but with some interesting changes as we begin Halloween season (still too early for my tastes!)
At 12:15pm Pacific time, Disneyland E Tickets were doing this. Notice where Haunted Mansion Holiday falls at 2,100 hourly capacity versus Falcon at 1,700 hourly capacity.
Pirates, Jungle Cruise, Small World, Star Tours, Big Thunder, Submarines - 5 Minutes
Hyperspace Mountain, Incredicoaster, Grizzly River Run - 10 Minutes
Millennium Falcon - 20 Minutes
Radiator Springs Racers, Soarin', Guardians of the Galaxy, Matterhorn, Indiana Jones - 25 Minutes
Haunted Mansion Holiday (opening day!), Splash Mountain - 30 Minutes
Then look at the WDW E Ticket wait times at 3:15pm Eastern time, but still before any Friday after-work rush.
Rock N' Roller Coaster - Temporarily Closed
Tower of Terror, Soarin', Everest, Kali River Rapids, Small World, Jungle Cruise, Big Thunder - 5 Minutes
Star Tours, Mission:Space, Kilimanjaro Safari, Space Mountain, Haunted Mansion, Pirates - 10 Minutes
Dinosaur - 15 Minutes
Test Track, Splash Mountain - 25 Minutes
Millennium Falcon - 30 Minutes
Flight of Passage - 40 Minutes
What happens this evening on both coasts? Do the Orlando locals show up now that the hurricane is long gone?
Not a frequent poster but many of the points made here I think explain the situation we’re seeing with Galaxy’s Edge. People generally don’t have a lot of vacation time and Disney pressurises us to pre-plan 6 months in advance. By pushing up the opening with less than 6 months notice, I think they may have underestimated how many people have the vacation time/resources to make an additional trip if they were already planning a trip for the planned opening in late Fall. The hurricane is undoubtedly also still having an impact resort-wide.
I personally think that people on here may be expecting too much from the opening of RotR with regards to attracting additional crowds. I don’t think the average guest will research the opening dates of individual rides and plan trips based on just one ride. If a guest was desperate to come for GE, they’ve likely already visited or will be visiting in the next month. RotR will definitely increase the perceived popularity of the land but I don’t think it will be the reason for many average guests to book a trip - the whole land may be and those trips could occur at any point from this point forward.
SplashJacket
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Does anyone have the capacity for Hagrids? I went on it last weekend. Was a phenomenal ride, however, I noticed the dispatch time was excruciatingly slow. Anyone have the actual numbers so we can accurately compare wait times?
SplashJacket
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Looked into it and apparently it is currently running at a capacity of 1,050 people per hour. Which is abysmal. It apparently has a theoretical capacity of 2,500 people an hour. (Nothing confirmed by Universal, 2,500 seems very high considering the ride system.
If you consider the rides downtime is enormous, anyone who sees the ride is open drops everything and instantly gets into the queue as it might not be open later. (I did this on my visit)
Mickeyboof
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Also the scheduled entertainment is great at Harry Potter.
At least there IS scheduled entertainment. And lots of it!!!!
And a night time show! (Which change!!)
What’s pathetic is when the crowds gather around the “stages” at galaxy’s Edge, just to look around confused. Waiting for anything to happen. Nothing does.
Lastly, wandering wizards!? We are the wandering wizards! *I* am as I do spells across the land that actually interact in a tangible way! It’s actually incredible.
There is no way to actually live your Star Wars adventure at GE (unless you count the text based app which does quite literally nothing...)
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BoarderPhreak
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that nobody's saying that SWGE outright sucks. It's a big, beautiful land with a theme that's near and dear to (I wager) most of us here. I know I'm in that crowd. Does it mean we can't criticize? No - of course not. This is a discussion forum, and if not here - where? We all have these images in our heads of what Star Wars means to us, what SWGE should be and the reality that's somewhere in between. I think we can all agree that Disney did drop the ball to varying degrees; by their own admission, even. It's a touchy subject... What did y'all expect, I mean, seriously?
When the fervent Toy Story fans show up, I bet there will be hell to pay - you watch!
When the fervent Toy Story fans show up, I bet there will be hell to pay - you watch!
SplashJacket
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I loved Star Wars land. I was blown away by it. Personally, my only critiques were lack of music, kinetic energy, and I would have preferred a couple more walk-around characters.
I never noticed music at all throughout the land. Not original, not classic Star Wars. Easily addressable though. Just like for movies, music in lands is a quintessential part of the experience.
The concept for the 3rd ride, which was cut, would have resolved the lack of kinetic energy, and the cut airship drones would also resolve this. Quickly adding the drones would easily fix the lack of kinetic energy.
Adding more walk-around characters instantly addresses my final complaint.
I would say I was underwhelmed with the actual ride of Smuggler's Run, but I was not. I went in expecting an E-Ticket attraction, and my expectations were met. MFSR is not the headliner. I will go into ROTR in my next trip (January) expecting it to blow me away, and if it does (as it should) I will be more than satisfied with Star Wars land.
I never noticed music at all throughout the land. Not original, not classic Star Wars. Easily addressable though. Just like for movies, music in lands is a quintessential part of the experience.
The concept for the 3rd ride, which was cut, would have resolved the lack of kinetic energy, and the cut airship drones would also resolve this. Quickly adding the drones would easily fix the lack of kinetic energy.
Adding more walk-around characters instantly addresses my final complaint.
I would say I was underwhelmed with the actual ride of Smuggler's Run, but I was not. I went in expecting an E-Ticket attraction, and my expectations were met. MFSR is not the headliner. I will go into ROTR in my next trip (January) expecting it to blow me away, and if it does (as it should) I will be more than satisfied with Star Wars land.
RobWDW1971
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And that, my friends, is what is considered a passionate, positive review of the most expensive land in The Walt Disney Company's history.
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TP2000
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Now at 6:00pm Pacific, the Friday after-work crowd is showing up at Disneyland for the first day of HalloweenTime and Haunted Mansion Holiday. There was a slight bump for DHS after-work too, but not quite what Disneyland is seeing this evening.
At 9:00pm Eastern at DHS:
Rock N' Roller Coaster, Star Tours - 5 Minutes
Midway Mania - 10 Minutes
Tower of Terror - 13 Minutes
Millennium Falcon - 35 Minutes
While out at Disneyland at 6:05pm Pacific:
Millennium Falcon - 25 Minutes
Guardians of the Galaxy - Monsters After Dark! - 55 Minutes
Radiator Springs Racers - 60 Minutes
Haunted Mansion Holiday - 75 Minutes
Heck, even Luigi's Honkin' Haul-O-Ween (a cosmetic makeover of the spinner C Ticket with new Halloween songs) has a 20 minute wait. Which tells me that the SoCal locals were excited to be unblocked after summer and arrive for the first night of HalloweenTime, but they went to Cars Land to see the decorations and ride the Halloween version of Luigi's and Guardians of the Galaxy's Monsters After Dark! version for Halloween, and when in Disneyland they are flooding the Haunted Mansion Holiday to see this year's changes and 50th anniversary gingerbread house in the ballroom. Even the 60 year old Matterhorn Bobsleds at 40 minutes currently has a longer wait than Millennium Falcon on either coast.
I really doubt this is how the Burbank bosses thought it was going to go in 2019. On either coast.
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mikejs78
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Give it up.
mikejs78
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Maybe not you, but there are those on here who are.
SplashJacket
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The price is absolutely mindboggling, that is undeniable. Disney's use of money in the last decade is insane.
Toy Story Land cost upwards of $300 million and the result was a spinner, a quick service, and a loosely themed coaster.
Hagrid's Motorbike which just opened in Universal, a phenomenal ride. Great theming, however, some noticeable gaps, such as a massive blue building with a mural of trees in the background cost $300 million. The price was for the ride and queue. No non-ride elements. The result is one of the best coasters in the world.
I am not defending what Disney spent, I am just not surprised by it.
After all, Everest cost $127 million adjusted for inflation.
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mikejs78
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Except they aren't even showing up at all, even with unblocked passes. Last couple days have been rated a 1 on the Touring Plans historical crowd calendar. That's insane after a blackout and can't be attributed to Galaxy's Edge.
I'm wondering if a ton of people in Southern CA are just done with Disney given the massive price hikes and draconian blackout calendars over the last year.... If this is more a DL problem than a SW:GE problem.
BoarderPhreak
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Consider that EPCOT Center cost a cool billion - for the whole park - when it was built.