Jones14
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If I’m not mistaken, the ride is rumored to be roughly the same length as Haunted Mansion, so it’s not like it’s gonna be a short ride.
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News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions
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SWGalaxysEdge
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"Rise of the Resistance"(RotR) - news.
Disneyland Paris released a report about the future of the park. One "rumor" for them was the addition of 2 new attractions including "Mickey & Minnie's Runaway Railway" (DHS is getting it this year)
Disney released this image as part of the talk. Notice the ride vehicles are similar in size and capacity to the RotR attraction at #SWGalaxysEdge - They are using a lot of screen projections as well as physical sets.
Might be a preview of what kinds of things to expect on our Star Wars ride experience. (no, not Mickey! - lol)
Disneyland Paris released a report about the future of the park. One "rumor" for them was the addition of 2 new attractions including "Mickey & Minnie's Runaway Railway" (DHS is getting it this year)
Disney released this image as part of the talk. Notice the ride vehicles are similar in size and capacity to the RotR attraction at #SWGalaxysEdge - They are using a lot of screen projections as well as physical sets.
Might be a preview of what kinds of things to expect on our Star Wars ride experience. (no, not Mickey! - lol)
Yes, it's been well known that both rides will use an LPS (local positioning system) for its ride vehicles, similar to the wonderful Mystic Manor and the dreaded Antarctica: Empire of the Penguin rides.
MMRR will use "2.5 D" to create 3D effects. It will be heavily projection based with some physical sets and audioanimatronics.
RotR will rely more heavily on sets and animatronics and just about every ride-based physical effect. It will also have a much larger scope, such as being in a two story room with AT-ATs.
mickEblu
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Read this from Westsider from the site we dont speak of... Rat Talk. A lot of it is regarding concerns that many have shared on the topic of SWL capacity/ operations but I believe he has a good rep/ some inside info and goes into a bit more detail.
"Management is already having a difficult time getting people to apply to go to GE. They need hundreds of CM's just for attractions, but very few people applied. The problem is that the Test and Adjust crew has been there for a year now, and they know all the problems the rides will face. Management also had a hard time getting quality candidates to fill the middle managers and front line management spots, and TDA filled the management teams with some very inexperienced candidates. There are respected DL managers with decades of experience who said "No way in heck!" would they go to GE, and that has filtered down to the hourly CM's with seniority too. The smart CM's are staying away.
The whole concept is going to be a nightmare and there will be a lot of associated problems to deal with. The capacity of both rides is way too low. Millenium Falcon gets 1800 an hour with all four turntables running with every seat filled, even though only two of the six seats are the "pilot" positions and everyone is going to want to be the pilot instead of a dumb helper in the back row. The ROTR ride is closer to 1500 an hour, and that's assuming the thing works. There are multiple ride systems in ROTR, if one ride system stops or faults, the entire thing is closed. Right now they can't get the entire ride to work for more than 15 minutes at a time without stopping for hours to reset and fix.
People who have seen the stores and dining are alarmed at how small and cramped things are, especially the much hyped Cantina. The Cantina has a half dozen small booths, and one dozen bar stools to sit at, that's it. There will be standing space, but not a lot. You can't fit more than 100 people in the Cantina at a time. If you average a 30 minute visit, that would be 3,000 people per day who could visit the Cantina. Disneyland already easily gets 60,000 people per day. Do you wanna be the guy who has to tell 57,000 people they can't get in each day?
There is a fast food location, think a Batuu version of Boardwalk Pizza n Pasta over at DCA, and several small ODV type carts that are highly themed. That's it for dining in the land.
The hyping and opening of GE could ruin Disneyland for years to come. More and more CM's are really starting to worry what it will mean for their ride or location even if they don't transfer to GE."
"Management is already having a difficult time getting people to apply to go to GE. They need hundreds of CM's just for attractions, but very few people applied. The problem is that the Test and Adjust crew has been there for a year now, and they know all the problems the rides will face. Management also had a hard time getting quality candidates to fill the middle managers and front line management spots, and TDA filled the management teams with some very inexperienced candidates. There are respected DL managers with decades of experience who said "No way in heck!" would they go to GE, and that has filtered down to the hourly CM's with seniority too. The smart CM's are staying away.
The whole concept is going to be a nightmare and there will be a lot of associated problems to deal with. The capacity of both rides is way too low. Millenium Falcon gets 1800 an hour with all four turntables running with every seat filled, even though only two of the six seats are the "pilot" positions and everyone is going to want to be the pilot instead of a dumb helper in the back row. The ROTR ride is closer to 1500 an hour, and that's assuming the thing works. There are multiple ride systems in ROTR, if one ride system stops or faults, the entire thing is closed. Right now they can't get the entire ride to work for more than 15 minutes at a time without stopping for hours to reset and fix.
People who have seen the stores and dining are alarmed at how small and cramped things are, especially the much hyped Cantina. The Cantina has a half dozen small booths, and one dozen bar stools to sit at, that's it. There will be standing space, but not a lot. You can't fit more than 100 people in the Cantina at a time. If you average a 30 minute visit, that would be 3,000 people per day who could visit the Cantina. Disneyland already easily gets 60,000 people per day. Do you wanna be the guy who has to tell 57,000 people they can't get in each day?
There is a fast food location, think a Batuu version of Boardwalk Pizza n Pasta over at DCA, and several small ODV type carts that are highly themed. That's it for dining in the land.
The hyping and opening of GE could ruin Disneyland for years to come. More and more CM's are really starting to worry what it will mean for their ride or location even if they don't transfer to GE."
NateD1226
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I'm calling it now that one attraction is going to close for the day ON opening day.
mickEblu
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mickEblu
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I agree. I didn’t share to say the sky is falling. Only to share what seems to be a detailed post based on insider knowledge.
Yup, I think the dining capacity is the more scandalous. I thought there was going to be a table service of sorts, or at least in the be our guest/potter venue style.
mickEblu
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Yeah they re should have been one nice sit down place and that cantina situation sounds ridiculous.
Curious Constance
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What a waste of space. They take almost a quarter of Disneyland and make it this low capacity? What were they thinking?
SWGalaxysEdge
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...wow. I need to look into this with my contacts and see what their take is. I've got a contact directly working on RotR too.
lifeisgoodboy
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I hope this right for Disneyland pirates ride square feet :
Number of show buildings: 2 (112,826 square feet)
Here is the link: http://pirates.wikia.com/wiki/Pirates_of_the_Caribbean_(ride)
Here is the link for the blueprints for Disneyland pirates ride:
http://www.alanhague.com/he/images/pirate1.jpg
http://www.alanhague.com/he/images/pirate2.jpg
PB Watermelon
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I'm going to do the Bird Box Challenge on the Falcon and crash into everything I (don't) see. First the ceiling, then the floor, then the ceiling, then the floor, over and over again, the entire ride.
britain
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Sounds like they might be in for some nightmares like these:
https://www.history.com/news/disneylands-disastrous-opening-day-60-years-ago
https://www.history.com/news/disneylands-disastrous-opening-day-60-years-ago
Disney Analyst
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New video:
I find it interesting that they’ve planted 3 trees backstage. Don’t know why I do.
I find it interesting that they’ve planted 3 trees backstage. Don’t know why I do.
SWGalaxysEdge
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..here's what my contact had to say about this...
"That’s some interesting information, yes test and adjust has been going on for a year but has only been testing 10 to 12 hours per day it’s now testing 24hrs per day for the last few weeks. Capacity for AL will be around 4000 per hour. Bird will be around 3200 per hour, these times are based on the actual “ride time” that’s from the moment you actually get in the seats. Most rides average 3-5 minutes except for small world 15 to 20 long and boring minutes. The mark twain has a shorter ride time than small world, I’m one of the few people who sets a stop watch. Mansion at full capacity 3 per seat is around 3200. As far as the fear from other CM it’s because of the uncertainty of a new land, it was the same fear when toon town opened and cars land. Some of the concerns are valid but the other CM are too much in their comfort zone and don’t want to give up their days off because of an attraction change. So the statement is a yes and no statement and the logistics will be challenging.
WDI has a massive team their own office building across from DL and inside GE , if it was a huge mistake to do GE and Shanghai Disney, Disney company would be out of business right now. And more changes will be coming soon to tomorrow land including marvel at DCA which may or may not be a gamble "
Stripes
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The square footage of DL Pirates is way, way off. It's more like half that. Also, it's still one show building, I don't know why they put it down as two. But the blueprints look to be accurate.