News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

[Old Mouseketeer]

Taking inspiration from movies is very different than directly having a movie themed park. If Frontierland was Davy Crockett Land maybe you'd have a point. I don't think you'd say Disneyland is a literature themed park just because of the Mark Twain and Tom Sawyer's Island, so why say it's a movie themed park?

Where do I start? The concept began as a park next to the studios. It was developed using Walt's studio brain trust. It used a lot of cinematic tricks including forced perspective. Main St. USA is a series of studio-style facades fronting large utility buildings. Note: I said Movie AND TV. Walt financed the park, in part, by partnering with the fledgling ABC network and running a TV program called Disneyland. And your first sentence is just silly. It's a distinction without any real meaning. Movies and TV are 2-D fantasy and Disneyland was 3-D fantasy, largely based on movies and TV and using many cinematic tricks and technologies.

 

[TROR]

Where do I start? The concept began as a park next to the studios.

What does that have to do with theme? If Disneyland is in Anaheim, does that make it themed to Anaheim?

It was developed using Walt's studio brain trust.

What does that have to do with theme? If a weatherman becomes a CEO, does that mean the company he's CEO of is based around the weather?

It used a lot of cinematic tricks including forced perspective. Main St. USA is a series of studio-style facades fronting large utility buildings.

What does that have to do with theme? If a painter uses a sponge to paint their painting, does that mean the painting is about sponges?

Note: I said Movie AND TV. Walt financed the park, in part, by partnering with the fledgling ABC network and running a TV program called Disneyland.

What does that have to do with theme? If a movie runs advertisements for it during the Super Bowl, does that mean the movie is about the Super Bowl?

And your first sentence is just silly. It's a distinction without any real meaning. Movies and TV are 2-D fantasy and Disneyland was 3-D fantasy, largely based on movies and TV and using many cinematic tricks and technologies.

Nothing you've listed has to do with the theme of the park.

Taking inspiration from an outside source, whether that be literature, film, stage plays, or other amusement and theme parks, does not mean the theme of your park is what you've taken inspiration from. Yes, Disneyland takes a lot of inspiration from cinema, both Walt's own movies as well as other filmmakers', but the park is not about cinema.

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

And one is bigger than the other.

Yes, DLR is about 500 acres and WDW is about 29,000 acres.

 

[shortstop]

Yes, DLR is about 500 acres and WDW is about 29,000 acres.

So much for the blessing of size. It’s embarassing how the FL SWL is practically touching the show building for Muppets! Shame!!

 

[TP2000]

Too bad it doesn’t fit the theme of the park well.

Walt Disney dedicated the park and its purpose with these words...

“To all who come to this happy place: Welcome. Disneyland is your land. Here, age relives fond memories of the past, and here youth may savor the challenge and promise of the future. Disneyland is dedicated to the ideals, the dreams, and the hard facts that have created America, with the hope that it will be a source of joy and inspiration to all the world.” - Walt Disney

Just for fun, tell me again how Star Wars doesn't fit into Walt's original mission statement for his park?

 

[Old Mouseketeer]

What does that have to do with theme? If Disneyland is in Anaheim, does that make it themed to Anaheim?

What does that have to do with theme? If a weatherman becomes a CEO, does that mean the company he's CEO of is based around the weather?

What does that have to do with theme? If a painter uses a sponge to paint their painting, does that mean the painting is about sponges?

What does that have to do with theme? If a movie runs advertisements for it during the Super Bowl, does that mean the movie is about the Super Bowl?

Nothing you've listed has to do with the theme of the park.

Taking inspiration from an outside source, whether that be literature, film, stage plays, or other amusement and theme parks, does not mean the theme of your park is what you've taken inspiration from. Yes, Disneyland takes a lot of inspiration from cinema, both Walt's own movies as well as other filmmakers', but the park is not about cinema.

This discussion has not only veered from it's original precept (partly my fault), but it is now lacking any nuance or layering. DHS and WDS parks have moved more towards what DL was originally and DL has only increased its movie-centric content. And your arguments above are just silly.

 

[TROR]

This discussion has not only veered from it's original precept (partly my fault), but it is now lacking any nuance or layering. DHS and WDS parks have moved more towards what DL was originally and DL has only increased its movie-centric content. And your arguments above are just silly.

They're silly to show the silliness of you saying Disneyland is a movie-themed park.

 

[NobodyElse]

This might help as to why it looks odd

Grand Avenue
View attachment 282723


inspiration for the grand Avenue tunnel
View attachment 282724

You see the natural flow of the original tunnel with the hill flowing down into the street level? In my opinion they should have done something like this at least on the left side of the tunnel closest to the Muppet building to give it a more natural feel.

i havent seen pictures of the large wall and tunnel with trees on top of it so not sure how that will change the look of the area.

i just think that a large concrete wall with landscape on it without any of it transitioning down to street level will look odd especially when you get to the end of the avenue and you look left and right and see more huge sound stages and facades.

Good observation. A fascia that large is usually there to hold something back, like a hillside.

The first thing I noticed however were the main "pillars". They're planted firmly in the street, gutters, curbs, and a little of the sidewalk. I've yet to see something like that in real life (or even in a movie studio). Your second picture shows that potential issue being mitigated by the curved curb. Perhaps they'll do something like that in Florida. Or perhaps there's an Imagineering intern coming up with a back-story as we speak.

 

[brb1006]

Has anyone ever noticed that Disneyland's version of Galaxy's Edge seems to be a bit bigger than Florida's?

 

[Old Mouseketeer]

They're silly to show the silliness of you saying Disneyland is a movie-themed park.

Yeah, I'm done with you. Bye, Felicia.

 

[Little Green Men]

Walt Disney dedicated the park and its purpose with these words...

“To all who come to this happy place: Welcome. Disneyland is your land. Here, age relives fond memories of the past, and here youth may savor the challenge and promise of the future. Disneyland is dedicated to the ideals, the dreams, and the hard facts that have created America, with the hope that it will be a source of joy and inspiration to all the world.” - Walt Disney

Just for fun, tell me again how Star Wars doesn't fit into Walt's original mission statement for his park?

Where DOES it fit in that statement? Memories of the past I interpret as traveling back in time to old places. Is Star Wars a dream or fact that created America? I'm sorry, I honestly don't see the fit.

 

[Phroobar]

Where DOES it fit in that statement? Memories of the past I interpret as traveling back in time to old places. Is Star Wars a dream or fact that created America? I'm sorry, I honestly don't see the fit.

Meh.

 

[Incomudro]

Where DOES it fit in that statement? Memories of the past I interpret as traveling back in time to old places. Is Star Wars a dream or fact that created America? I'm sorry, I honestly don't see the fit.

"A long time ago" that's the past part.
Yes, my post is sarcasm.

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

So much for the blessing of size. It’s embarassing how the FL SWL is practically touching the show building for Muppets! Shame!!

Who knows what will happen to Muppets?? Star Tours is right there for an expansion

 

[rle4lunch]

So much for the blessing of size. It’s embarassing how the FL SWL is practically touching the show building for Muppets! Shame!!

It's not the size that counts, it's how you use it!

...runs away...

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Where DOES it fit in that statement? Memories of the past I interpret as traveling back in time to old places. Is Star Wars a dream or fact that created America? I'm sorry, I honestly don't see the fit.

What I take from it is that at its opening Disneyland, unlike DCA, EPCOT, DSP, etc, wasn't specifically themed to a unified subject. DL is primarily rooted in broad fantasy, the future, and historic themes. Under this framework SW fits just fine.

 

[britain]

Any updates / pics / videos here? Nope? Ok, moving on.

 

[Disney Irish]

Any updates / pics / videos here? Nope? Ok, moving on.

Nope, just the normal size conversation.

 

[Rich T]

But Disneyland was essentially a movie/TV-themed amusement park with clean streets and no beer. Going through the tunnels under the DLSFRR was like the start of the movie. It was inspired by Sleeping Beauty, Snow White, Peter Pan, Mr. Toad, Dumbo, Alice in Wonderland, Pinocchio (and other Storybookland references), The African Queen, Davy Crockett, Mike Fink, and every Western ever made.

You know darn well that I'm referring to the fact that much of DHS is themed to the act of making movies with no attempt to hide or camouflage the artificiality. There's a HUGE difference between a park based on movies and television settings and a park designed to make you feel like you're behind the scenes-- A HUGE difference between the style of theming at DL and DHS. Stop pretending you don't already know that just for the sake of arguing.

 

[TragicMike]

Can't wait to see how progress is going at Galax....oh....bye.