News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

[britain]

Lol that was a great post and I find it mostly accurate. But admit it. Endor woud have worked and would be preferable to what we got with Batuu. Of course it is unknown how good the execution would be with Endor but I’d take the unknown vs the known at this point.

The proposed ride would undoubtedly be more fun than Falcon and the concept feels more inherently Disneyland. Not sure if it’s because of the cute cuddly Ewoks, Star Tours 1.0 or trees. Probably a bit of all 3.

But would an Endor land really look like Star Wars? It was just look like forest with some Star Wars furnishings.

 

[mickEblu]

But would an Endor land really look like Star Wars? It was just look like forest with some Star Wars furnishings.

But it’s Star Wars. Lol. You could argue it’s more Star Wars then Batuu since ya know, Batuu was never in Star Wars. All of the stuff that is the REAL Star Wars can only be experienced on the rides anyways. Falcon, tie fighters, Star destroyers, Space etc...

 

[mickEblu]

@britain would you rather walk around trees In a shaded Ewok village with some rivers/water features or shadeless, depressing Batuu?

I already know you think the speed bike coaster would be more fun than the Falcon. And as impressive as ROTR may be im going to go out on a limb and say the speed bike coaster would be more fun than that too.

 

[britain]

@britain would you rather walk around trees In a shaded Ewok village with some rivers/water features or shadeless, depressing Batuu?

I already know you think the speed bike coaster would be more fun than the Falcon. And as impressive as ROTR may be im going to go out on a limb and say the speed bike coaster would be more fun than that too.

An Endor land has a lot of merit, no wonder it was part of one of the earlier proposals. But ultimately there’s a LOT to ‘Star Wars’ experiences that narratively never touches the sanctuary moon and its natives that act like they’ve never seen a hat before.

Leaving the Sequel Trilogy out of it (and what appears to be a return to Endor in Ep 9) that planet is a one and done place for the alliance and the empire. There’s nothing to DO there that feels like Star Wars other than see the remains of the Empire’s base, and see the Ewok village - the no-tech village.

No cantina, no podracing, no lightsabers, no droids (decorative, live, or toys), no smuggling, no Jedi temples, no senate, no republic, no dark times, no new republic, etc.

Endor was (like Hoth) an inconsequential place that happened to have a moment of historical consequence. So, yes, I hope for a speederbike coaster some day. But I’d rather go to a speeder bike race on Ralph McQuarrie-esque Batuu than go to some slavish recreation of the Redwood forest, er, Endor.

 

[mickEblu]

An Endor land has a lot of merit, no wonder it was part of one of the earlier proposals. But ultimately there’s a LOT to ‘Star Wars’ experiences that narratively never touches the sanctuary moon and its natives that act like they’ve never seen a hat before.

Leaving the Sequel Trilogy out of it (and what appears to be a return to Endor in Ep 9) that planet is a one and done place for the alliance and the empire. There’s nothing to DO there that feels like Star Wars other than see the remains of the Empire’s base, and see the Ewok village - the no-tech village.

No cantina, no podracing, no lightsabers, no droids (decorative, live, or toys), no smuggling, no Jedi temples, no senate, no republic, no dark times, no new republic, etc.

Endor was (like Hoth) an inconsequential place that happened to have a moment of historical consequence. So, yes, I hope for a speederbike coaster some day. But I’d rather go to a speeder bike race on Ralph McQuarrie-esque Batuu than go to some slavish recreation of the Redwood forest, er, Endor.

I don’t believe you.

Plus Batuu doesn’t have most of those things. There is nothing to DO at Batuu either unless you are on a ride or paying for a merchandise experience which would undoubtedly exist in any version of SWL. I guarantee that TDA would find a way to make room for some type of droid, lightsaber and cantina experience on any planet.

Like I said on my last post the real Star Warsy stuff can only really be experienced on the attractions.

 

[captveg]

Leaving the Sequel Trilogy out of it (and what appears to be a return to Endor in Ep 9) that planet is a one and done place for the alliance and the empire.

Are we returning to Endor, though? In RotJ it is called "the forest moon of Endor". So we know it's a moon. Is Endor the name of the moon, or the name of the planet the moon is supposedly orbiting? Is the Death Star debris on the forest moon of Endor (which may or may not be called Endor itself), or is it on the planet the moon is orbiting (which may actually be named Endor)?

 

[britain]

Well, if we return to the moon, we are probably returning to the vicinity of its planet also.

 

[drod1985]

I guarantee that TDA would find a way to make room for some type of droid, lightsaber and cantina experience on any planet.

But those types of experiences would make absolutely zero sense on a planet like Endor or Hoth. Tatooine would've worked, sure. But if you think Batuu is "shadeless and depressing" then Tatooine would've been even worse as it'd be a lot of the same color palette except with no foiliage.

@britain's post debating the various planets really nails it. They tailor made Batuu to not only feel like a part of Star Wars, but also to provide the best theme park experience. Could it be improved upon? Certainly. But I'm extremely glad they went with Batuu as opposed to recreating something we've already seen. I'd especially take Batuu over Endor.

 

[mickEblu]

But those types of experiences would make absolutely zero sense on a planet like Endor or Hoth. Tatooine would've worked, sure. But if you think Batuu is "shadeless and depressing" then Tatooine would've been even worse as it'd be the a lot of the same color palette except with no foiliage.

@britain's post debating the various planets really nails it. They tailor made Batuu to not only feel like a part of Star Wars, but also to provide the best theme park experience. Could it be improved upon? Certainly. But I'm extremely glad they went with Batuu as opposed to recreating something we've already seen. I'd especially take Batuu over Endor.

Oh right cuz Savis makes so much Sense. They can make sense of any of this stuff if they want to. They made Batuu up and they could make up whatever else they needed to add to Endor so they could get could get their merch sales.

Tatooine? Yuck.

 

[shortstop]

But those types of experiences would make absolutely zero sense on a planet like Endor or Hoth. Tatooine would've worked, sure. But if you think Batuu is "shadeless and depressing" then Tatooine would've been even worse as it'd be the a lot of the same color palette except with no foiliage.

@britain's post debating the various planets really nails it. They tailor made Batuu to not only feel like a part of Star Wars, but also to provide the best theme park experience. Could it be improved upon? Certainly. But I'm extremely glad they went with Batuu as opposed to recreating something we've already seen. I'd especially take Batuu over Endor.

I agree with this. Batuu isn’t perfect but I can’t think of any other planet or setting that would have been objectively better, nor have I seen any better ideas on this board. There are plenty of valid criticisms but this is one that I just can’t get behind.

The same goes for basing the land on the Sequel Trilogy. I’m not sure how different the land would’ve ended up if they had based it on the Original Trilogy? Maybe Luke would be a walk-around character instead of Rey, and First Order logos would be Empire logos, but other than these superficial changes, it really wouldn’t be that different.

 

[mickEblu]

I agree with this. Batuu isn’t perfect but I can’t think of any other planet or setting that would have been objectively better, nor have I seen any better ideas on this board. There are plenty of valid criticisms but this is one that I just can’t get behind.

The same goes for basing the land on the Sequel Trilogy. I’m not sure how different the land would’ve ended up if they had based it on the Original Trilogy? Maybe Luke would be a walk-around character instead of Rey, and First Order logos would be Empire logos, but other than these superficial changes, it really wouldn’t be that different.

Which criticism is that? That they could have built a better more enjoyable theme park atmosphere? So you re telling me this depressing beige, water featureless, shadeless land with only static props is the best they could do?

Maybe you re right considering their last few projects. To be clear @shortstop im fine with the concept of Batuu but not the execution. If it had more color, a water feature or two, some more greenery and some kinetic energy I’d be Ok with it.

 

[KevinPage]

I’m sure once the initial surge of guests get to experience the land POST Rise of the Reaistamce opening, they’ll have a better read on crowd control and can implement walking characters and droids and stuff that gives the area more “life”.

EVERYONE was wrong about the crowds so far, so give the area time to breath and adjust.

 

[shortstop]

Which criticism is that? That they could have built a better more enjoyable theme park atmosphere? So you re telling me this depressing beige, water featureless, shadeless land with only static props is the best they could do?

Maybe you re right considering their last few projects.

No, I think they could have. Just not using any of the movie locations.

I actually like the look of the land, especially the Resistance area and the Falcon area. That said, my biggest criticism of the land is the lack of kinetic energy. It could use a water feature or two and I don’t love the static props.

 

[mickEblu]

No, I think they could have. Just not using any of the movie locations.

I actually like the look of the land, especially the Resistance area and the Falcon area. That said, my biggest criticism of the land is the lack of kinetic energy. It could use a water feature or two and I don’t love the static props.

Haha I agree. Just before I saw your response I added a little bit to my last post. Pretty much what you said at the end of your post.

 

[Snow Queen]

Some water features, shade and general life in the land is definitely missing and I think adding some of it would go a long way, but I'm glad they went with something more interesting than Redwood Creek Challenge Trail with lasers or more beige buildings with less trees. I don't think it'd be hard to breathe some life into the land. A few walk around droids, more frequency for the stunt show (I've seen people say it's not on at all anymore, is that true? It seemed to be on the first few days under reservations), music coming from windows, people wandering the upper balconies (especially if they expanded the stunt show out into here like a better version of the Indiana Jones show from 2008), making some of the moving parts that require the app a little more accessible without jumping through hoops. More costly would be making the water feature along the mountain range by ROTR more prominent or adding a new one, but it'd be a welcome improvement.

 

[VJ]

For what it's worth, Jim Hill just reported that Michelle Valladolid recently learned that the sit down restaurant has been green lit and is being fast tracked.

The same way she "learned" that small world was going away FOREVER until it wasn't anymore?

 

[mickEblu]

Some water features, shade and general life in the land is definitely missing and I think adding some of it would go a long way, but I'm glad they went with something more interesting than Redwood Creek Challenge Trail with lasers or more beige buildings with less trees. I don't think it'd be hard to breathe some life into the land. A few walk around droids, more frequency for the stunt show (I've seen people say it's not on at all anymore, is that true? It seemed to be on the first few days under reservations), music coming from windows, people wandering the upper balconies (especially if they expanded the stunt show out into here like a better version of the Indiana Jones show from 2008), making some of the moving parts that require the app a little more accessible without jumping through hoops. More costly would be making the water feature along the mountain range by ROTR more prominent or adding a new one, but it'd be a welcome improvement.

I can definitely see this side of the argument. I get it. Redwood Creek Challenge Trail the remix doesn’t sound that exciting. But neither is Batuu and I know which land I would rather be walking around in. The proposed ride sounded a heck of a lot more fun and repeatable than either the Falcon and ROTR even if less ambitious than the latter.

 

[Nirya]

I agree with this. Batuu isn’t perfect but I can’t think of any other planet or setting that would have been objectively better, nor have I seen any better ideas on this board. There are plenty of valid criticisms but this is one that I just can’t get behind.

The same goes for basing the land on the Sequel Trilogy. I’m not sure how different the land would’ve ended up if they had based it on the Original Trilogy? Maybe Luke would be a walk-around character instead of Rey, and First Order logos would be Empire logos, but other than these superficial changes, it really wouldn’t be that different.

Basing the land on an original planet rather than a known one is absolutely fine, and is probably the correct decision.

But there’s nothing that prevented them from designing a new planet that had more life to it. I was looking at the layout of the land again and I’m honestly surprised they didn’t just add a water feature backing up to the RoA that could then run to a pool near the RotR ride. There’s already a waterfall where the Fantasmic boat storage is, and I can’t imagine it would have been that difficult to add a waterfall on the opposite side of the ridge in that spot as well.

 

[Curious Constance]

From what I'm reading about the Rise of the Planet of the Apes ride, I have no reason to expect anything different than the sort of odd cold Star Wars experience with props slapped in banal environments they've already delivered in the rest of Galaxy Edge. For instance, I keep reading about the props as though we're supposed to be impressed. A room full of Stormtroopers! A room with a life sized tie fighter!

Ehh?? I mean, obviously no one has really seen or knows anything about this ride, but if that's the kind of thing we're in for, I'm bracing for something potentially so bad it's actually entertaining.

Does anyone get where I'm coming from? Besides the usual curmudgeons with capitalized usernames?

That’s exactly what I’m expecting. Disney thinks it’s everyones dream to live out their Star Wars fantasy. And I’m sure they think that an extension of that fantasy would naturally be to see everything GIANT sized.

 

[bclane]

How often do I need to pull this out?

Link: Let the “planets as lands” idea die!

???

Anyway, I “liked” your post when you first posted it as I agree with much of what you’ve said. But for the record, I said location based and not world based in my post you just quoted. I have posted previously that I think the only way this could work is if it was primarily an indoor park with giant interconnected buildings being the lands. Outdoor portions would probably have to be lands basically like Batuu. It would be easier to recreate some of the Star Wars locations we’ve visited inside buildings the size of the ROTR building. Outside, I don’t see how it could work either except for something like what they’ve just built.

Edit: I meant to include in my post that I think something like Cloud City or the inside of some of the cooler buildings/ships we’ve seen in the movies would make great lands.