News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

[mickEblu]

With that ^^^ said, I’m not a huge fan of the visuals on Star Tours 2.0. Too much CGI. Star Tours 1.0 was much more realistic. I would almost go as far as saying Star Tours 2.0 is such a downgrade from the original that it’s basically a D ticket to the E that was the original.

 

[SuddenStorm]

I’ll admit my video game glory days peaked with Zelda: The Ocarina of Time (which many agree is still the greatest video game of all time) but to this day I have not seen a video game that I mistook for the “real world.” I’m talking actual game play, not the “movie shots.” So I guess I’m having a hard time seeing how the visuals in Falcon will be better than Star Tours when you consider that it will be real time video game type rendering due to the interactive element.

Excellent point.

To build off this- video games at the time of release often look very convincing- I remember when a new Call of Duty came out 5 years ago and I thought the environments looked very lifelike. Looking at the same game now, it looks horrifically dated since the technology has improved greatly in that time.

Will the Falcon be susceptible to this? I bet it'll look excellent when it first opens- but what about a decade from now, when home gaming is far more powerful than it is today? Is Imagineering going to be willing to consistently program new environments and continually invest in upgrading the hardware in the attraction to keep it from feeling dated?

 

[SuddenStorm]

With that ^^^ said, I’m not a huge fan of the visuals on Star Tours 2.0. Too much CGI. Star Tours 1.0 was much more realistic. I would almost go as far as saying Star Tours 2.0 is such a downgrade from the original that it’s basically a D ticket.

The gritty, dirty models used in the original Star Tours film helped make it seem far more real- it's all just a little to sleek now, especially since it's cgi is already outdated. Star Tours is a "must skip" now that it's just a billboard for Disney's trilogy + Batu. Not to mention how ridiculously corny the segments they created are.

I hope that once the Falcon ride opens they gut Star Tours and replace it with a physical immersive dark ride- we know there's the space there, since there was one before.

 

[mickEblu]

Excellent point.

To build off this- video games at the time of release often look very convincing- I remember when a new Call of Duty came out 5 years ago and I thought the environments looked very lifelike. Looking at the same game now, it looks horrifically dated since the technology has improved greatly in that time.

Will the Falcon be susceptible to this? I bet it'll look excellent when it first opens- but what about a decade from now, when home gaming is far more powerful than it is today? Is Imagineering going to be willing to consistently program new environments and continually invest in upgrading the hardware in the attraction to keep it from feeling dated?

Great point. It will be susceptible to this but I don’t think they’ll really care. GOTG:MB looked like crap on day one.

 

[mickEblu]

The gritty, dirty models used in the original Star Tours film helped make it seem far more real- it's all just a little to sleek now, especially since it's cgi is already outdated. Star Tours is a "must skip" now that it's just a billboard for Disney's trilogy + Batu. Not to mention how ridiculously corny the segments they created are.

I hope that once the Falcon ride opens they gut Star Tours and replace it with a physical immersive dark ride- we know there's the space there, since there was one before.

Yes! While they re at (if they re not going to demo TL) get rid of Buzz. Then they could technically connect both showbuildings with an overhead tunnel and give us an E ticket.

 

[SuddenStorm]

Yes! While they re at (if they re not going to demo TL) get rid of Buzz. Then they could technically connect both showbuildings with an overhead tunnel and give us an E ticket.

If only Disney had a ride track that already connects the two buildings.

 

[mickEblu]

If only Disney had a ride track that already connects the two buildings.

 

[MisterPenguin]

If one ever got a chance to ride Flight of Passage, then one wouldn't be wondering if a high enough pixel density and frame rate can make things look real.

 

[mickEblu]

If one ever got a chance to ride Flight of Passage, then one wouldn't be wondering if a high enough pixel density and frame rate can make things look real.

But FOP Isn’t interactive is it?

 

[SuddenStorm]

If one ever got a chance to ride Flight of Passage, then one wouldn't be wondering if a high enough pixel density and frame rate can make things look real.

Pixel density and frame rate are just two factors when it comes to computer generated graphics.

 

[BrianLo]

I will say this, I went on Star Tours in Paris in 2016 and it REALLY showed its age. It's a classic nostalgia goggles problem. It's kind of nice when one resort holds onto something a little toooooo long to go back and compare. Usually it's WDW though.

Story wise Star Tours 2.0 is less fluent, but it definitely looks much better.

 

[mickEblu]

I will say this, I went on Star Tours in Paris in 2016 and it REALLY showed its age. It's a classic nostalgia goggles problem. It's kind of nice when one resort holds onto something a little toooooo long to go back and compare. Usually it's WDW though.

Story wise Star Tours 2.0 is less fluent, but it definitely looks much better.

Really? So 1.0 didn’t look more realistic?

 

[TROR]

Star Tours 2 has already shown its age, too

 

[flynnibus]

I def think Phantom Menace is the best prequel film.

It has the least amount of really bad anakin dialogue.. that's why The dialogue written and delivered for anakin is what makes the films cringe worthy at times IMO.

But I still love the journey through these periods of time that the OT eludes to.. so that is still fun. And Grievous is a good villain.. along with Siddius.. even if they are a direct analog to Palpatine and Vader.

 

[Phroobar]

I’ll admit my video game glory days peaked with Zelda: The Ocarina of Time (which many agree is still the greatest video game of all time) but to this day I have not seen a video game that I mistook for the “real world.” I’m talking actual game play, not the “movie shots.” So I guess I’m having a hard time seeing how the visuals in Falcon will be better than Star Tours when you consider that it will be real time video game type rendering due to the interactive element.

It's time we buy you an XBox One X.

 

[MisterPenguin]

But FOP Isn’t interactive is it?

No, but, what does that have to do with the point that a projection can't look realistic?

Pixel density and frame rate are just two factors when it comes to computer generated graphics.

Yes, but those two factors are examples of developments in the field that go towards a projection looking realistic -- unless you want to point out that some of those unnamed factors are an obstacle to making SR look realistic?

 

[DanielBB8]

When I look outside the airplane window, HD doesn’t come to mind. What’s realistic in a pseudo spaceship shouldn’t be like video game clarity, but I’m sure much footage can be pre-rendered like when you use GPS with satellite footage. Just guessing.

 

[Phroobar]

When I look outside the airplane window, HD doesn’t come to mind. What’s realistic in a pseudo spaceship shouldn’t be like video game clarity, but I’m sure much footage can be pre-rendered like when you use GPS with satellite footage. Just guessing.

You haven't played Flight Simulator 2018 on a decked out PC in 4k. It's pretty realistic.

 

[DanielBB8]

You haven't played Flight Simulator 2018 on a decked out PC in 4k. It's pretty realistic.

Yes, but what I’m arguing is that looking out of an airplane window is usually a degraded image. And I’m also saying the background images are likely pre-rendered.

 

[Phroobar]

Yes, but what I’m arguing is that looking out of an airplane window is usually a degraded image. And I’m also saying the background images are likely pre-rendered.

I doubt the background images are prerendered. The graphics cards they are using can do that stuff in real time. It's extremely impressive especially if they do it in 8k resolution. Maybe you need a new glasses prescription if you think reality is a degraded image.