News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

[MisterPenguin]

Dammit. I didn’t even think of that. I was thinking he was an AA in all his scenes. If he’s going to be digital Kylo sometimes than the mask needs to stay on. I think that should be an unspoken rule in theme parks. No humanoids on screens ever. Nothing takes you out of the moment faster. Think GOTG:MB or Fast and the Furious at USH

But it works for Shanghai PotC.

 

[mickEblu]

You can have an infinite number in the queue and still have a 1,600 pph ride.

The "pph" is a rate: how many bodies pass through in one hour.

Rather than thinking about the queue and loading and number of vehicles and number of seats, do this: go to the attraction's exit and count the number of people who exit in an hour (or 15 minutes and multiply by four), and that will tell you it's "pph." Normally, when we talk about "capacity", that's what we're talking about, not how many people the attraction can hold in its queue or on its ride vehicles at one time.

Gotcha thanks. That’s a good way to think about it. I think rider throughput is a better term than what we commonly refer to as capacity. When I think of capacity, I think of everything. The ride and how many people are in the Q and out of the park walkways.


So if we did this exercise with ROTR how many people do you think we’d count coming through the exit after one hour @MisterPenguin ?

 

[mickEblu]

But it works for Shanghai PotC.

Not for me on video at least. I like the screens for the background stuff. But that Jack Sparrow fight scene at the end takes you out of the physical world they re trying to make believe you re in.

 

[britain]

I’m guessing the rogue droid that hacks the system and overrides your vehicles will be BB-8

 

[britain]

Not for me on video at least. I like the screens for the background stuff. But that Jack Sparrow fight scene at the end takes you out of the physical world they re trying to make believe you re in.

But it worked for If You Had Wings!

 

[mickEblu]

But it worked for If You Had Wings!

Did it? I’ve never been to WDW

 

[MisterPenguin]

..ok got a correction from my source.... ".....I might have done my math wrong when calculating it the first time, 30 vehicles x 8 riders x 7 per ride minute ride in the vehicle- this doesn’t include the que line...." ** NOTE - that comes out to about 1680/hour (not including the queue)

* There are 30 ride vehicles
* Each holds 8 people (we knew this)
* Each ride lasts 7 minutes

That's not how the math works.

If a vehicle takes 7 minutes to cycle through, then, in one hour, it makes 8.57 cycles. And if there are 30 RVs, then that's 257 cycles per hour. And if each carries 8 people, that's 2,057 PPH.

However, there's a question of whether that 7 minutes includes unloading and reloading, which it probably doesn't.

So, if it's 30 seconds to unload and 30 seconds to reload (to be generous), then each vehicle cycles through every 8 minutes, or 7.5 cycles per hour. With 30 RVs and 8 people in each RV, that's 1,800 PPH at it's maximum, less for slower loading, or, if they need to space out the vehicles so that they can experience each scene properly.

 

[TROR]

Watching a movie will never be as immersive as a physical presence.

 

[britain]

Did it? I’ve never been to WDW

No, not really.

 

[Disney Irish]

To me if it really is in real life how it reads it'll have a nice balance of practical sets, AAs, and screens. So capacity and the obligatory "screenz" discussion aside RotR sounds like an interesting and potentially exciting ride.

 

[TROR]

To me if it really is in real life how it reads it'll have a nice balance of practical sets, AAs, and screens. So capacity and the obligatory "screenz" discussion aside RotR sounds like an interesting and potentially exciting ride.

Definitely agree. It seems to be a story told in the same way as the Shanghai's pirate attraction mixed in a bit with Indiana Jones Adventure. So long as it's more Indiana Jones Adventure, however, and doesn't rely too heavily on Kylo Ren it could be the best ride added to the Disneyland Resort since Indiana Jones.

 

[britain]

Definitely agree. It seems to be a story told in the same way as the Shanghai's pirate attraction mixed in a bit with Indiana Jones Adventure. So long as it's more Indiana Jones Adventure, however, and doesn't rely too heavily on Kylo Ren it could be the best ride added to the Disneyland Resort since Indiana Jones.

Agreed. Sounds like it’s Space Mountain to Indy’s Big Thunder.

 

[Old Mouseketeer]

OK - here's how the RotR ride is all supposed to work, according to Attractions Magazine

1. You will enter the Blue transport ship and be spun around 180-degrees to the other side but you think you are traveling in space. While on the way through the galaxy, the ship will be captured by the First Order. This will force the ship to land inside of a First Order Star Destroyer hangar.

2. Guests will exit the pre-show ship into a hangar. This will be one of the largest rooms of the entire building, complete with animatronic stormtroopers, TIE fighters and a picturesque view of space. Guests will be told to, “move along,” as they are taken to individual load rooms, themed to First Order prison cells.

3. Guests will be taken from the huge hangar area on the left into the hallways. Here, they will be grouped into the smaller pre-show rooms. These secondary pre-shows are expected to have a droid of some kind that will explain safety procedures and move the story along, much like how Rocket Raccoon does in Guardians of the Galaxy – Mission: BREAKOUT! at Disney California Adventure.

4. Guests will then be loaded into one-of-two different trackless First Order transport vehicles. These two ride vehicles will accompany each other during the entire experience. Once guests are loaded in, the vehicle is sent out of the room for processing.

Now, while there are four showrooms, equaling eight different ride vehicles, it is expected that there will never be more than two vehicles in the same room. The two vehicles that start together will never be separated for more than a few seconds.

5. From this point, the two buddy transports will enter the blue-colored room, and shortly after, a rogue droid will drive across the upper bridge. This droid will hack into the First Order mainframe, gaining control of your vehicles – which will suddenly take off, as your escape mission begins.

6. The two ride vehicles will exit the large first room in an extremely high-detailed area, which is meant to look like hallways inside of a First Order Star Destroyer. The real excitement begins when the vehicles turn a corner to come face-to-face with an animatronic Kylo Ren! His saber will ignite as the vehicles back up in retreat. They’ll spin around and go down the second turn, only to enter the AT-AT room.

7. This is where the vehicles will become separated, each going up their own elevator shaft on either side of the room.

8. Once guests have gone up the elevator shaft, they will be on the “second” floor of the building. In reality, guests will be more than 40 feet up – which is important later.

They will twist and turn in their own vehicle and head down a short hallway before the two buddy vehicles meet up again. Both vehicles will see each other and turn as they quietly go under an elevated area.

This elevated area will have a two animatronics, Kylo Ren and possibly General Hux. They are expected to be talking about the sudden Resistance fighters that are attacking the ship. They have come to save the guests!

9. From there, guests will sneak away from the meeting and enter the gun room. A row of these guns will be blasting off into space as the two buddy vehicles drive under them, looking for a way out. Guests will feel the power as these guns shoot, recoil and reload. The accompanying screens on the right will show the Resistance fleet getting blasted at on massive screens meant to portray space.

10. The two buddy vehicles will once again meet up with Kylo Ren as he swings his lightsaber towards them, causing visible burn and gash marks on the walls. Kylo will nearly grab the guests when the Star Destroyer ship will be hit by a huge blast. This blast will cause Kylo Ren to get caught between a broken piece of the ship and the guests.

11. he two buddy vehicles may get a call from the Resistance ships to find an escape pod. The hacked vehicles will add the coordinates and take off. They almost make it before meeting up with Kylo Ren one last time. He uses the force to hold up the room as he comes at you, but at the last second, a wall collapses which causes him to focus all his attention on not getting hit.

12. The buddy vehicles aggressively back up, each swerving into their own escape pod. This is where the rumors about the Tower of Terror-style drop emerge.

The escape pods are actually elevator shafts that will drop guests from the highest point of the building. This drop will be accompanied by more high-end screens and will make guests feel as though they just shot off into space. The windows of the escape pods will show guests twisting, turning and falling back to the planet of Batuu.

13. Guests will crash land their pod in an old warehouse. The two buddy vehicles will then roll out of the escape pods and end up here, the unload area.

Scoop by :Attractions Magazine - Matt Roseboom

Re: Point #1, I think the Resistance Shuttle will turn 240 degrees. Based on the angle of the external shuttle compared to the orientation of the Hanger, it appears likely that there will be three shuttle capsules on the turntable--A) loading in the cave, B) in transit and captured, and C) unloading in the Hanger Bay.

 

[Disney Irish]

Definitely agree. It seems to be a story told in the same way as the Shanghai's pirate attraction mixed in a bit with Indiana Jones Adventure. So long as it's more Indiana Jones Adventure, however, and doesn't rely too heavily on Kylo Ren it could be the best ride added to the Disneyland Resort since Indiana Jones.

Well since its the first E-Ticket added to DL proper since IJA that's not hard.

From the way it reads the experience will feel a lot like IJA with a lot of bits and pieces from other attractions. For example the first encounter with Kylo feels a lot like the boulder scene in IJA. The first elevator ride will remind people of the stretching room. The ending "escape pod" scene as discussed obviously feels like ToT/GotG. The multiple Kylo encounters almost feels like Harold in Matterhorn.

I'm sure I can piece together more after a couple more reads. But you get the idea. Basically it gives something for everyone who loves classic Disney Parks attractions plus new thrills to create lasting memories. So whether you like the content of SW or not I think even the most "SW in Disney Parks" critic will actually enjoy it. This again is all dependent on it actually coming out in real life like it reads in the description.

 

[Curious Constance]

It's really unbelievable that they are using Kylo Ren as the villian in the ride. Ten years from now, I doubt anyone will remember him. I doubt many people care about him right at this very minute. I suppose they could always change out characters later, but Disney's arrogance about their IP is getting ridiculous.

 

[TROR]

Well since its the first E-Ticket added to DL proper since IJA that's not hard.

From the way it reads the experience will feel a lot like IJA with a lot of bits and pieces from other attractions. For example the first encounter with Kylo feels a lot like the boulder scene in IJA. The first elevator ride will remind people of the stretching room. The ending "escape pod" scene as discussed obviously feels like ToT/GotG. The multiple Kylo encounters almost feels like Harold in Matterhorn.

I'm sure I can piece together more after a couple more reads. But you get the idea. Basically it gives something for everyone who loves classic Disney Parks attractions plus new thrills to create lasting memories. So whether you like the content of SW or not I think even the most SW in Disney Parks critic will actually enjoy it. This again is all dependent on it actually coming out in real life like it reads in the description.

Yep. It definitely is something to look forward to.

I already have plans to go to Disneyland this summer after the land opens and before I return to school so I'm hoping to avoid any footage before actually experiencing it (assuming the wait isn't 5 hours and I will actually get to experience it).

 

[Disney Irish]

Yep. It definitely is something to look forward to.

I already have plans to go to Disneyland this summer after the land opens and before I return to school so I'm hoping to avoid any footage before actually experiencing it (assuming the wait isn't 5 hours and I will actually get to experience it).

MaxPass is your friend....

 

[Disney Irish]

It's really unbelievable that they are using Kylo Ren as the villian in the ride. Ten years from now, I doubt anyone will remember him. I doubt many people care about him right at this very minute. I suppose they could always change out characters later, but Disney's arrogance about their IP is getting ridiculous.

I have a feeling Kylo will become a cult fan favorite as time goes by. Also if they can keep his helmet on during the entire attraction, even the screen bits, it should help with longevity.

 

[Curious Constance]

I have a feeling Kylo will become a cult fan favorite as time goes by. Also if they can keep his helmet on during the entire attraction, even the screen bits, it should help with longevity.

They already have a cult fan favorite, several of them, but they choose the whiney, baby who wears a helmet with a voice changer, not out of medical nesessity, but so people actually don't point and laugh at what a terrible villain he really is. Oh, well, at least it'll help ink out every last cent from the new movie, since that's what's really important to Disney these days. It's certainly not about making the best attractions, with the most iconic, well loved characters.

 

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

OK - here's how the RotR ride is all supposed to work, according to Attractions Magazine

1. You will enter the Blue transport ship and be spun around 180-degrees to the other side but you think you are traveling in space. While on the way through the galaxy, the ship will be captured by the First Order. This will force the ship to land inside of a First Order Star Destroyer hangar.

2. Guests will exit the pre-show ship into a hangar. This will be one of the largest rooms of the entire building, complete with animatronic stormtroopers, TIE fighters and a picturesque view of space. Guests will be told to, “move along,” as they are taken to individual load rooms, themed to First Order prison cells.

3. Guests will be taken from the huge hangar area on the left into the hallways. Here, they will be grouped into the smaller pre-show rooms. These secondary pre-shows are expected to have a droid of some kind that will explain safety procedures and move the story along, much like how Rocket Raccoon does in Guardians of the Galaxy – Mission: BREAKOUT! at Disney California Adventure.

4. Guests will then be loaded into one-of-two different trackless First Order transport vehicles. These two ride vehicles will accompany each other during the entire experience. Once guests are loaded in, the vehicle is sent out of the room for processing.

Now, while there are four showrooms, equaling eight different ride vehicles, it is expected that there will never be more than two vehicles in the same room. The two vehicles that start together will never be separated for more than a few seconds.

5. From this point, the two buddy transports will enter the blue-colored room, and shortly after, a rogue droid will drive across the upper bridge. This droid will hack into the First Order mainframe, gaining control of your vehicles – which will suddenly take off, as your escape mission begins.

6. The two ride vehicles will exit the large first room in an extremely high-detailed area, which is meant to look like hallways inside of a First Order Star Destroyer. The real excitement begins when the vehicles turn a corner to come face-to-face with an animatronic Kylo Ren! His saber will ignite as the vehicles back up in retreat. They’ll spin around and go down the second turn, only to enter the AT-AT room.

7. This is where the vehicles will become separated, each going up their own elevator shaft on either side of the room.

8. Once guests have gone up the elevator shaft, they will be on the “second” floor of the building. In reality, guests will be more than 40 feet up – which is important later.

They will twist and turn in their own vehicle and head down a short hallway before the two buddy vehicles meet up again. Both vehicles will see each other and turn as they quietly go under an elevated area.

This elevated area will have a two animatronics, Kylo Ren and possibly General Hux. They are expected to be talking about the sudden Resistance fighters that are attacking the ship. They have come to save the guests!

9. From there, guests will sneak away from the meeting and enter the gun room. A row of these guns will be blasting off into space as the two buddy vehicles drive under them, looking for a way out. Guests will feel the power as these guns shoot, recoil and reload. The accompanying screens on the right will show the Resistance fleet getting blasted at on massive screens meant to portray space.

10. The two buddy vehicles will once again meet up with Kylo Ren as he swings his lightsaber towards them, causing visible burn and gash marks on the walls. Kylo will nearly grab the guests when the Star Destroyer ship will be hit by a huge blast. This blast will cause Kylo Ren to get caught between a broken piece of the ship and the guests.

11. he two buddy vehicles may get a call from the Resistance ships to find an escape pod. The hacked vehicles will add the coordinates and take off. They almost make it before meeting up with Kylo Ren one last time. He uses the force to hold up the room as he comes at you, but at the last second, a wall collapses which causes him to focus all his attention on not getting hit.

12. The buddy vehicles aggressively back up, each swerving into their own escape pod. This is where the rumors about the Tower of Terror-style drop emerge.

The escape pods are actually elevator shafts that will drop guests from the highest point of the building. This drop will be accompanied by more high-end screens and will make guests feel as though they just shot off into space. The windows of the escape pods will show guests twisting, turning and falling back to the planet of Batuu.

13. Guests will crash land their pod in an old warehouse. The two buddy vehicles will then roll out of the escape pods and end up here, the unload area.

Scoop by :Attractions Magazine - Matt Roseboom

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