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News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

shortstop

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For the record, I’m of the opinion that any report of “mid-ride disembarking” is mistaking the shuttle preshow (which is technically a vehicle of sorts) as part of “the ride”. That’s all the transferring I’m expecting. Anything beyond that would be a very unexpected and very unlikely surprise to me.
I’m glad this one has been debunked. It sounded like a terrible idea at the time and it sounds like a terrible idea now.
 

Old Mouseketeer

Premium Member
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There once was a rumor that mid-ride guests would be getting off one ride vehicle and transferring over to another ride vehicle.
Hey folks--can we please clarify our statements and differentiate between transferring from a wheelchair to a ride vehicle and the above rumor that guests would "be getting off one ride vehicle and transferring over to another ride vehicle". Specifically, please clarify if you use the word "transfer". Thank you.
 

Old Mouseketeer

Premium Member
..why does me saying "I talked to someone working on the ride" have zero weight in this matter?
They directly told me there will be a transfer. I asked specifically because my wife is in a wheelchair and its hard for her to xfer.
He said that was the way it is made and CM's would be there to help.
Then, as I said upthread, this suggests to me that there will be too much motion for wheelchairs to travel on board an accessible vehicle. Otherwise I'm sure they would have provided such an accommodation. With new rides they only require wheelchair users to transfer if there is no way to make a full accommodation.
 

Phrubruh

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Yeah, there is no way we could expect guests to transfer mid-ride.
People (especially today) are... I'm trying to pick a non offensive term... "dense" and not alert.
They're often a physical mess too.
I don't expect much out of them, and I'm certain Disney is aware of that.
One boarding is more than enough of a psychological and physical workout for most to manage.
You make all Disneyland guests sound like Jabba the Hutt.

 

SWGalaxysEdge

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** RorR Clarification ** - Ok I rechecked with my contact and I was wrong about how this works.
Beginning of the ride/queue, we walk. ADA stays in their chair.
At about the middle of the ride, we all xfer to one of the 4 loading stations, getting into the 8-passenger vehicle.
This is where ADA needs to xfer to the vehicle.
Everyone stays in the vehicle until the end.
Everyone leaves and ADA xfers back to their chair to exit.
 

180º

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** RorR Clarification ** - Ok I rechecked with my contact and I was wrong about how this works.
Beginning of the ride/queue, we walk. ADA stays in their chair.
At about the middle of the ride, we all xfer to one of the 4 loading stations, getting into the 8-passenger vehicle.
This is where ADA needs to xfer to the vehicle.
Everyone stays in the vehicle until the end.
Everyone leaves and ADA xfers back to their chair to exit.
I just assumed this is what you meant in the first place. For clarification, most of us here do not acknowledge the shuttle to the Star Destroyer as anything more than an elaborate pre-show. A few years ago MiceAge got all excited about “disembarking mid-ride,” which now we figure was just an exaggeration of how the queue works, and which is why we tend to dismiss that particular wording.

All that aside, thanks again for getting the scoop for us. I’m still betting on your intel about the wheelchair transfers! At the moment I’m pretty confident I’ll be able to keep my two churros. :)
 

britain

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** RorR Clarification ** - Ok I rechecked with my contact and I was wrong about how this works.
Beginning of the ride/queue, we walk. ADA stays in their chair.
At about the middle of the ride, we all xfer to one of the 4 loading stations, getting into the 8-passenger vehicle.
This is where ADA needs to xfer to the vehicle.
Everyone stays in the vehicle until the end.
Everyone leaves and ADA xfers back to their chair to exit.
This fits what @marni1971 has been saying for years: the RIDE itself is relatively short because WDI considers all the show scenes in the pre-show to not really be PRE-show at all, but part of the attraction proper. (Wouldn’t we all consider the HM stretching room to be part of the actual attraction? Not just pre-show?)

Your source may say it’s “about the middle of the ride,” but I’m pretty sure they mean about the middle of the attraction experience.
 

BrianLo

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Original Poster
This fits what @marni1971 has been saying for years: the RIDE itself is relatively short because WDI considers all the show scenes in the pre-show to not really be PRE-show at all, but part of the attraction proper. (Wouldn’t we all consider the HM stretching room to be part of the actual attraction? Not just pre-show?)

Your source may say it’s “about the middle of the ride,” but I’m pretty sure they mean about the middle of the attraction experience.
The ride being short I think in context to the hugeness of the queue. I don’t actually expect it to be that short based on modern E-tickets. Yes based on Pirates, but nothing will ever be that long again.
 

DoubleJ21

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The ride being short I think in context to the hugeness of the queue. I don’t actually expect it to be that short based on modern E-tickets. Yes based on Pirates, but nothing will ever be that long again.
Yeah, the ride itself is still the size of Shanghai Pirates. It's definitely not small. In fact, it dwarfs the actual show space of DL's PotC.
 

britain

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The ride being short I think in context to the hugeness of the queue. I don’t actually expect it to be that short based on modern E-tickets. Yes based on Pirates, but nothing will ever be that long again.
Based on Pirates, Haunted Mansion, Spaceship Earth, American Adventure, Horizons, World of Motion, Kilimanjaro Safaris and of course, Universe of Energy.
 
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mickEblu

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** RorR Clarification ** - Ok I rechecked with my contact and I was wrong about how this works.
Beginning of the ride/queue, we walk. ADA stays in their chair.
At about the middle of the ride, we all xfer to one of the 4 loading stations, getting into the 8-passenger vehicle.
This is where ADA needs to xfer to the vehicle.
Everyone stays in the vehicle until the end.
Everyone leaves and ADA xfers back to their chair to exit.
I assume when you say middle of the ride you mean middle of the queue? But then again that wouldn’t make sense because if we re boarding ride vehicles wouldn’t that be the end of the queue and beginning of the ride?
 

britain

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Yeah, the ride itself is still the size of Shanghai Pirates. It's definitely not small. In fact, it dwarfs the actual show space of DL's PotC.
But a whole third of the building is that First Order hangar - one show scene (are we calling it part of the queue?). I’m just saying, keep expectations in check and you’ll be happy.
 

SWGalaxysEdge

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Falcon progress at Hollywood Studios. I know this is a DisneyLand forum, but I wanted you to see the progress of the Florida Falcon.
This was taken earlier today during a overhead helicopter flight. A little blurry because I zoomed in the original picture.
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DoubleJ21

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But a whole third of the building is that First Order hangar - one show scene. I’m just saying, keep expectations in check and you’ll be happy.
I've done the measurements. The total ground space of the show building is 75,000 sq ft. The ride is 45,000 sq ft on two levels. (20,000 sq ft for hanger and 10,000 sq ft on two levels for maintenance among other things.) 90,000 sq ft in total ride space. That is right in line with the ride space in Shanghai Pirates which is also at nearly exactly 90,000 sq ft in ride space. By comparison, the entire DL Pirates show building is 65,000 sq ft.
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Bear in mind, a lot this area is queue, restaurants, shops etc. but I don't have a blueprint of the ride, so I'm not going to try to guess just how much isn't ride space.

Also, not sure if you knew: the hanger is part of the queue.
 
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flynnibus

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Yeah, there is no way we could expect guests to transfer mid-ride.
People (especially today) are... I'm trying to pick a non offensive term... "dense" and not alert.
They're often a physical mess too.
I don't expect much out of them, and I'm certain Disney is aware of that.
One boarding is more than enough of a psychological and physical workout for most to manage.
Asking them to do so Is similar to the backlot tour... or the haunted mansion . The latter is probably more akin
 

Jones14

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Based on Pirates, Haunted Mansion, Spaceship Earth, American Adventure, Horizons, World of Motion, Kilimanjaro Safaris and of course, Universe of Energy.
If I’m not mistaken, the ride is rumored to be roughly the same length as Haunted Mansion, so it’s not like it’s gonna be a short ride.
 

SWGalaxysEdge

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"Rise of the Resistance"(RotR) - news.

Disneyland Paris released a report about the future of the park. One "rumor" for them was the addition of 2 new attractions including "Mickey & Minnie's Runaway Railway" (DHS is getting it this year)

Disney released this image as part of the talk. Notice the ride vehicles are similar in size and capacity to the RotR attraction at #SWGalaxysEdge - They are using a lot of screen projections as well as physical sets.

Might be a preview of what kinds of things to expect on our Star Wars ride experience. (no, not Mickey! - lol)
MaMRR-ridecar.png
 

MisterPenguin

Rumormonger
Premium Member
"Rise of the Resistance"(RotR) - news.

Disneyland Paris released a report about the future of the park. One "rumor" for them was the addition of 2 new attractions including "Mickey & Minnie's Runaway Railway" (DHS is getting it this year)

Disney released this image as part of the talk. Notice the ride vehicles are similar in size and capacity to the RotR attraction at #SWGalaxysEdge - They are using a lot of screen projections as well as physical sets.

Might be a preview of what kinds of things to expect on our Star Wars ride experience. (no, not Mickey! - lol)
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Yes, it's been well known that both rides will use an LPS (local positioning system) for its ride vehicles, similar to the wonderful Mystic Manor and the dreaded Antarctica: Empire of the Penguin rides.

MMRR will use "2.5 D" to create 3D effects. It will be heavily projection based with some physical sets and audioanimatronics.

RotR will rely more heavily on sets and animatronics and just about every ride-based physical effect. It will also have a much larger scope, such as being in a two story room with AT-ATs.
 

mickEblu

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Read this from Westsider from the site we dont speak of... Rat Talk. A lot of it is regarding concerns that many have shared on the topic of SWL capacity/ operations but I believe he has a good rep/ some inside info and goes into a bit more detail.


"Management is already having a difficult time getting people to apply to go to GE. They need hundreds of CM's just for attractions, but very few people applied. The problem is that the Test and Adjust crew has been there for a year now, and they know all the problems the rides will face. Management also had a hard time getting quality candidates to fill the middle managers and front line management spots, and TDA filled the management teams with some very inexperienced candidates. There are respected DL managers with decades of experience who said "No way in heck!" would they go to GE, and that has filtered down to the hourly CM's with seniority too. The smart CM's are staying away.

The whole concept is going to be a nightmare and there will be a lot of associated problems to deal with. The capacity of both rides is way too low. Millenium Falcon gets 1800 an hour with all four turntables running with every seat filled, even though only two of the six seats are the "pilot" positions and everyone is going to want to be the pilot instead of a dumb helper in the back row. The ROTR ride is closer to 1500 an hour, and that's assuming the thing works. There are multiple ride systems in ROTR, if one ride system stops or faults, the entire thing is closed. Right now they can't get the entire ride to work for more than 15 minutes at a time without stopping for hours to reset and fix.

People who have seen the stores and dining are alarmed at how small and cramped things are, especially the much hyped Cantina. The Cantina has a half dozen small booths, and one dozen bar stools to sit at, that's it. There will be standing space, but not a lot. You can't fit more than 100 people in the Cantina at a time. If you average a 30 minute visit, that would be 3,000 people per day who could visit the Cantina. Disneyland already easily gets 60,000 people per day. Do you wanna be the guy who has to tell 57,000 people they can't get in each day?

There is a fast food location, think a Batuu version of Boardwalk Pizza n Pasta over at DCA, and several small ODV type carts that are highly themed. That's it for dining in the land.

The hyping and opening of GE could ruin Disneyland for years to come. More and more CM's are really starting to worry what it will mean for their ride or location even if they don't transfer to GE."
 

NateD1226

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Read this from Westsider from the site we dont speak of... Rat Talk. A lot of it is regarding concerns that many have shared on the topic of SWL capacity/ operations but I believe he has a good rep/ some inside info and goes into a bit more detail.


"Management is already having a difficult time getting people to apply to go to GE. They need hundreds of CM's just for attractions, but very few people applied. The problem is that the Test and Adjust crew has been there for a year now, and they know all the problems the rides will face. Management also had a hard time getting quality candidates to fill the middle managers and front line management spots, and TDA filled the management teams with some very inexperienced candidates. There are respected DL managers with decades of experience who said "No way in heck!" would they go to GE, and that has filtered down to the hourly CM's with seniority too. The smart CM's are staying away.

The whole concept is going to be a nightmare and there will be a lot of associated problems to deal with. The capacity of both rides is way too low. Millenium Falcon gets 1800 an hour with all four turntables running with every seat filled, even though only two of the six seats are the "pilot" positions and everyone is going to want to be the pilot instead of a dumb helper in the back row. The ROTR ride is closer to 1500 an hour, and that's assuming the thing works. There are multiple ride systems in ROTR, if one ride system stops or faults, the entire thing is closed. Right now they can't get the entire ride to work for more than 15 minutes at a time without stopping for hours to reset and fix.

People who have seen the stores and dining are alarmed at how small and cramped things are, especially the much hyped Cantina. The Cantina has a half dozen small booths, and one dozen bar stools to sit at, that's it. There will be standing space, but not a lot. You can't fit more than 100 people in the Cantina at a time. If you average a 30 minute visit, that would be 3,000 people per day who could visit the Cantina. Disneyland already easily gets 60,000 people per day. Do you wanna be the guy who has to tell 57,000 people they can't get in each day?

There is a fast food location, think a Batuu version of Boardwalk Pizza n Pasta over at DCA, and several small ODV type carts that are highly themed. That's it for dining in the land.

The hyping and opening of GE could ruin Disneyland for years to come. More and more CM's are really starting to worry what it will mean for their ride or location even if they don't transfer to GE."
I'm calling it now that one attraction is going to close for the day ON opening day.
 
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