News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

sedati

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I hate to say it, a ramp that steep doesn't seem ADA compliant, nor is it probably safe for the average tourist (no handrails.) Also, I think there's some head clearance issues- everyone has to duck into the Falcon.
 

THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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Based on how they built it, I don't think you'll be able to actually go inside it. Like sedati said its likely a big highly detailed photo op model.

But fear not my friend, there will be a whole section of the queue that will look like the inside of the Falcon that you can walk through and explore.
but it is not the same experience as it would be as you turn the corner you not only see the actual Falcon but you get to step inside it and explore it for the que, then the ride is in the Flacon itself. it would sell it more to me that I am actually piloting, or being an engineer or whatever those last 2 seats are where you hit the buttons like a game of SIMON, if I got to walk into the falcon from the outside then enter the cockpit. walking past the falcon then going into a hanger that some how leads me back to the falcon cockpit without having stepped inside the actual falcone I just saw out front seems like it will take me out of it. I wonder how they are going to transition it or handle the transition from the hanger to the inside of the falcon. at some point they have to make it seem liked you walked up the ramp in to the falcon in the show building because that is the only way to enter the falcon beside the top hatch entrance Lando used to rescue Luke in EMPIRE.
 
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THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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I hate to say it, a ramp that steep doesn't seem ADA compliant, nor is it probably safe for the average tourist (no handrails.) Also, I think there's some head clearance issues- everyone has to duck into the Falcon.
yeah but you could design it so that is not a issue. or have a separate elevator entrance for those in wheel chairs.
 

Disney Irish

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but it is not the same experience as it would be as you turn the corner you not only see the actual Falcon but you get to step inside it and explore it for the que, then the ride is in the Flacon itself. it would sell it more to me that I am actually piloting, or being an engineer or whatever those last 2 seats are where you hit the buttons like a game of SIMON, if I got to walk into the falcon from the outside then enter the cockpit. walking past the falcon then going into a hanger that some how leads me back to the falcon cockpit without having stepped inside the actual falcone I just saw out front seems like it will take me out of it. I wonder how they are going to transit it or handle the transition from the hanger to the inside of the falcon. at some point they have to make it seem liked you walked up the ramp in to the falcon in the show building because that is the only way to enter the falcon beside the top hatch entrance Lando used to rescue Luke in EMPIRE.

Maybe, we'll have to see how its done. Whatever they do I'm sure it'll feel real enough.

But having a large scale walk-in model like you're expecting just doesn't seem economically feasible to me. At that point you're basically building an actual ship that has to be safe enough for thousands of daily guests instead of just a decorative shell.
 

sedati

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To summarize the entrance debate, here is the spot I believe Disney Irish Bruh is referring to:
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I'll amend my guess as I can clearly see an opening at the base of the tower. I believe you'll enter there and follow a path arching behind the Falcon before entering the building proper:
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And here's those ideas on an image from Nearmap. Circles on left are possible exits (there are two pairs of carousels, each may lead to one of the openings) Next two arrows represent my guess. Arrow to the right is Disney Irish Bruh:
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Disney Irish

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To summarize the entrance debate, here is the spot I believe Disney Irish Bruh is referring to:
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I'll amend my guess as I can clearly see an opening at the base of the tower. I believe you'll enter there and follow a path arching behind the Falcon before entering the building proper:
View attachment 328345
And here's those ideas on an image from Nearmap. Circles on left are possible exits (there are two pairs of carousels, each may lead to one of the openings) Next two arrows represent my guess. Arrow to the right is Disney Irish Bruh:View attachment 328346

Yes you are correct in where you have pointed out what I think we'll enter. I just don't see a use for that area otherwise. Because if we enter from where you're thinking there is really no reason to go over to that area which is open. Unless its an exit area.

Either way I think we can both agree that this area, whether you enter from the left like you think or the right like I think, is for the queue. However I don't think your two circles are for exit. That would be a long way to walk for the second set of pods on the far right.
 

THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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Maybe, we'll have to see how its done. Whatever they do I'm sure it'll feel real enough.

But having a large scale walk-in model like you're expecting just doesn't seem economically feasible to me. At that point you're basically building an actual ship that has to be safe enough for thousands of daily guests instead of just a decorative shell.
but that is the point of having a actual life size falcon being built. people want to not only take pictures of it but get to live their childhood dream of walking into it and exploring it. just having a empty shell is disappointing and most of the general public who do not know these details will complain about it once the land opens.
 

Sharon&Susan

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but that is the point of having a actual life size falcon being built. people want to not only take pictures of it but get to live their childhood dream of walking into it and exploring it. just having a empty shell is disappointing and most of the general public who do not know these details will complain about it once the land opens.
The queue for the MF, I believe, will give the illusion of entering the MF and being inside it’s interior. We’ll see if it’s convincing or not in a few months.
 

sedati

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Either way I think we can both agree that this area, whether you enter from the left like you think or the right like I think, is for the queue. However I don't think your two circles are for exit. That would be a long way to walk for the second set of pods on the far right.

Exiting is a whole other conversation. If it's done like Mission Space at Epcot, then were are walking around the perimeter of the entire building which can be either short or incredibly long depending on which carousel you get. If we exit more on the inside, then I don't think it would be too bad (this is the one I'm leaning towards, and I think they will bring us back down to the lower level quickly.)

If we do exit via the perimeter, two separate exits would be better.

Here's an early Nearmap showing the foundations of what I believe is the first-level of queue space wrapping around the right pair of carousels:
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THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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The queue for the MF, I believe, will give the illusion of entering the MF and being inside it’s interior. We’ll see if it’s convincing or not in a few months.
True but like I said before, seeing the FALCON outside then going into a building that leads me to a fake Falcon interior entrance in a show building will take me out of the immersion. it will make me wonder why I could not just walk into the giant real life Falcon I saw outside and had to go into a hanger area to then back track to the Falcon entrance ramp I saw when I passed by the real thing outside.
 

sedati

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True but like I said before, seeing the FALCON outside then going into a building that leads me to a fake Falcon interior entrance in a show building will take me out of the immersion. it will make me wonder why I could not just walk into the giant real life Falcon I saw outside and had to go into a hanger area to then back track to the Falcon entrance ramp I saw when I passed by the real thing outside.

Because, even if you did walk into the outdoor Falcon, turned right and hopped into the cockpit, that sucker ain't going anywhere.
The one you'll enter through a docking port (which while not depicted in films, is actually a very common way of boarding such ships) will look and sound real in full 360 degree glory, and what's more, this one will blast off into hyperspace.

This land truly looks like next-level immersion, but there's always going to be some aspects you're just going to have to play along with. There will be strollers, tourists, and smartphones. Star Wars is famous for having absurd catwalks with no railing whatsoever- this place will have railings galore.

And just for fun, here's a few more common things that are rare if not non-existant in Star Wars canon that you're bound to see on Batuu (feel free to add your own):
Zippers
Eye Glasses
Exit Signs
 
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Disney Irish

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but that is the point of having a actual life size falcon being built. people want to not only take pictures of it but get to live their childhood dream of walking into it and exploring it. just having a empty shell is disappointing and most of the general public who do not know these details will complain about it once the land opens.

True but like I said before, seeing the FALCON outside then going into a building that leads me to a fake Falcon interior entrance in a show building will take me out of the immersion. it will make me wonder why I could not just walk into the giant real life Falcon I saw outside and had to go into a hanger area to then back track to the Falcon entrance ramp I saw when I passed by the real thing outside.

How is it not going to ruin the immersion if you see a line of people coming out the back of the ship that never actually takes off?

Also you have no real reason yet to board the Falcon. I have to assume the pre-show is going to provide the mission details from Hondo. And that is where we'll be lead to the interior of the Falcon. Which I assume will feel at some point like we've boarded the ship in some way.
 

Disney Irish

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Exiting is a whole other conversation. If it's done like Mission Space at Epcot, then were are walking around the perimeter of the entire building which can be either short or incredibly long depending on which carousel you get. If we exit more on the inside, then I don't think it would be too bad (this is the one I'm leaning towards, and I think they will bring us back down to the lower level quickly.)

If we do exit via the perimeter, two separate exits would be better.

Here's an early Nearmap showing the foundations of what I believe is the first-level of queue space wrapping around the right pair of carousels:View attachment 328360

Well we're a short 6-7 months away from finding out. But to me two separate exits don't really seem in the cards, the pod exit corridors have to come to a common exit to the land at some point. And that tip of the building there just seems like the appropriate place to me.
 

Incomudro

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True but like I said before, seeing the FALCON outside then going into a building that leads me to a fake Falcon interior entrance in a show building will take me out of the immersion. it will make me wonder why I could not just walk into the giant real life Falcon I saw outside and had to go into a hanger area to then back track to the Falcon entrance ramp I saw when I passed by the real thing outside.
Imagine trying to cram a parkload of people into the Falcon?
It's simply unworkable.
I have confidence that very few people will be unhappy with the cue and load into the ride cockpit.
 

PB Watermelon

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Because, even if you did walk into the outdoor Falcon, turned right and hopped into the cockpit, that sucker ain't going anywhere.
The one you'll enter through a docking port (which while not depicted in films, is actually a very common way of boarding such ships) will look and sound real in full 360 degree glory, and what's more, this one will blast off into hyperspace.

This land truly looks like next-level immersion, but there's always going to be some aspects you're just going to have to play along with. There will be strollers, tourists, and smartphones. Star Wars is famous for having absurd catwalks with no railing whatsoever- this place will have railings galore.

And just for fun, here's a few more common things that are rare if not non-existant in Star Wars canon that you're bound to see on Batuu (feel free to add your own):
Zippers
Eye Glasses
Exit Signs

Yeah, even in a galaxy far, far away, it's still not far enough away to avoid ADA and OSHA requirements.
 

Professortango1

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True but like I said before, seeing the FALCON outside then going into a building that leads me to a fake Falcon interior entrance in a show building will take me out of the immersion. it will make me wonder why I could not just walk into the giant real life Falcon I saw outside and had to go into a hanger area to then back track to the Falcon entrance ramp I saw when I passed by the real thing outside.

Because you weren't supposed to be taking the Falcon when you walked by it outside, you were exploring this facility then you get drafted into a Smuggler's Run.

And also....its a theme park. Its called a willful suspension of disbelief. I'm sure there will some kind of boarding which takes place in the queue to assist with that.

If this kind of thing really bothers you, then I don't think theme parks are the best fit. Even Disney with their incredibly detailed storytelling relies of plenty of suspension of disbelief. Why are we in a chain of black carriages in the Haunted Mansion? Why is there a speed ramp? How do we walk into Space Station 77? Why are bobsleds going through the mountain? Relax, and enjoy. If you seek problems, you're going to find them.
 

fctiger

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True but like I said before, seeing the FALCON outside then going into a building that leads me to a fake Falcon interior entrance in a show building will take me out of the immersion. it will make me wonder why I could not just walk into the giant real life Falcon I saw outside and had to go into a hanger area to then back track to the Falcon entrance ramp I saw when I passed by the real thing outside.

I get what you're saying but others said it, its just unfeasible. And we have to let our imaginations stretch a little bit. I always say when I'm watching a movie, they usually do 90% of the job making it feel as real and authentic as possible, but you still have to do some of it yourself. You know nothing you are watching is real, the ships are made from computer images or that the main character doesn't actually have superhero powers, who you seen in probably countless other roles, but you tell yourself its all happening. Thats how theme parks works too. They will give us the 90% (actually looking at the scope of it maybe 95% lol) but you ALWAYS know you're in a theme park right? It's hard to tell yourself you are really walking down Main Street in the 1800s when everyone around you are dressed in modern clothes and carrying smartphones.

And the only way that could even remotely work is that they had multiple Millennium Falcons just like Star Tours has multiple cabins to boad.
 

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