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Phroobar

Phroobar

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You don't want to hear any Star Wars news.

I don't want to hear any Star Wars news.

You will go to the Chit Chat board.

I will go to the Chit Chat board.

Move along.

Move along. Move along.
 
SuddenStorm

SuddenStorm

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dweezil78 said:
Sure, I can exit the park and go get those things right outside, but really what's the difference that point? You're hanging on to a wish of a man who's been dead for half a century and who was only alive for 11 years of the park's 63 years of operations. A man who was continually changing the rules and tinkering with the place right up until his death. Had he not lived a fuller life, do you really think there's no chance that he himself wouldn't have bent on his no alcohol rule??

I respect Walt and his traditions, but like I always do with everything, I urge people to have some perspective and think about the state of the park and world then vs. now. I'm not saying "it's 2018, deal with it" -- but I am saying Disneyland in the 50s and 60s was an extremely different place than it is today.
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I have no opinion on the subject, so I have no intent with disagreeing with you.

I just find it amusing that Disneyland fans, as a whole, use the "What would Walt have wanted approach?" when arguing against change they don't agree with.

Until, of course, there's a policy Walt put in place (like this alcohol ban) that the fans as a whole don't agree with. Then it's "Well, Walt's been gone for decades! Disneyland is different now then it was!"

This phenomenon is why I'm not a fan of using Walt to both defend, and deride a project. Since, as you said, we really have no way of knowing what he would have wanted.
 
SuddenStorm

SuddenStorm

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TP2000 said:
Is that when that finally got replaced? I had always wondered where in the timeline it was, although I do remember it was gone by the big 30th anniversary in 1985.

For the young'uns, this is what the park entry perimeter looked like for the first 25 years; chain link fence. Walt approved it and kept it.

And can you imagine trying to get a 21st century American through those narrow turnstiles? Triggered!

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Also notice the plain cement wall in front of the Mickey floral, as opposed to the nice brick that's there now.

And the nice tiles we have now, as opposed to plain asphault.

The entrance is certainly one of the things that wasn't better in the good ole' days.
 
dweezil78

dweezil78

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SuddenStorm said:
I just find it amusing that Disneyland fans, as a whole, use the "What would Walt have wanted approach?" when arguing against change they don't agree with.

Until, of course, there's a policy Walt put in place (like this alcohol ban) that the fans as a whole don't agree with. Then it's "Well, Walt's been gone for decades! Disneyland is different now then it was!"
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I might be in the minority, but I never use Walt and his wishes as a crutch in either scenario. Mad respect for him and what he created, but by the time he died he had moved on to building crazy utopian cities. Had he stuck around, by 1968 he likely would’ve stopped paying Disneyland any attention at all.

Maybe the difference is that I grew up as a Florida guy, so I see Walt and his grander aspirations through a different lens than Disneyland natives?
 
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BrianLo

BrianLo

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dweezil78 said:
Maybe the difference is that I grew up as a Florida guy, so I see Walt and his grander aspirations through a different lens than Disneyland natives?
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Exactly.

Walt did not in any way want to build Walt Disney World. He was goaded into tacking on a Disneyland in early iterations as an afterthought to appease the board.

So when 80% of people on this WDW-centric board cite what Walt Wanted... almost nothing about the vacation destination they worship is what he wanted.

Especially when people memorialize Card Walker's E.P.C.O.T... I'm sure Walt would have liked it in some respects, but it's definitely not what he wanted.
 
George Lucas on a Bench

George Lucas on a Bench

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Walt would have saw WDW for the huge open concrete wasteland it is and demanded more attractions and a city. He would have taken the whole thing back to formula. However the shareholders would have eventually overruled him and he'd be sitting on a bench somewhere with George Lucas.
 
Old Mouseketeer

Old Mouseketeer

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TP2000 said:
Is that when that finally got replaced? I had always wondered where in the timeline it was, although I do remember it was gone by the big 30th anniversary in 1985.

For the young'uns, this is what the park entry perimeter looked like for the first 25 years; chain link fence. Walt approved it and kept it.

And can you imagine trying to get a 21st century American through those narrow turnstiles? Triggered!

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And notice the plain pavement and retaining wall--the faux brick came later. AND THEY TOOK DOWN THE ATTRACTION POSTERS!!! How dare they!
 

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