News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

[Disney Irish]

You put it as if Frontierland was used to promote Davy Crockett. Davy Crockett promoted Frontierland. I don't care about synergy or promotions, I just want good quality attractions, lands, and theme parks. If a TV show or movie lazily promotes a theme park, people can see right through that. But if a theme park lazily promotes a TV show or movie, no one calls them out because people are stupid when it comes to theme parks as an art. How is it that people can look at movies and video games and the like as art, but not theme parks?

If the answer to the question of whether theme parks are art is yes, and I think it is. Then you have to be willing to accept that there are many different interpretations of what is considered good art within that medium. As you can't just say I will only accept Van Gogh or Pablo Picasso as art and nothing else. There also has to be room for Campbell's Soup Can by Andy Warhol, all the stuff Banksy does, and other subversive art. You may not like those pieces of art, but they are still art nonetheless and considered good by someone. The same goes for attractions, movies, TV shows, or whatever, they are still art whether you like them or not.

However with that said, I will just add that theme parks are not a static art form. Meaning that it doesn't stay the same throughout history, just like TV shows and movies. As such one has to concede that change within that art form is inevitable whether you like that change or not.

 

[flynnibus]

The original fact based concepts that formed the inspiration for Tomorrowland and Frontierland are perfect examples of how poorly equipped an entertainment company like Disney is to portray serious topics in a theme park intended for a mass audience.

Not poorly equipped - just they didnt even intend to. Disneys version was always the sterilized fantasy version. Disney did 'real' when they intended to - but that wasnt in DL. DL would use authentic materials and looks to project believability and credibility in the eyes of the guest... but to convince them of the story... not to convince them of reality. Its always been about the romanticized version

 

[Disney Analyst]

The Americana theme is the best thing about Disneyland. If it was based on any other nation it would suck.

I’ve decided we need a retheme, and I’ve created a new one. Canadiana!!

 

[TROR]

I agree, bad attractions are bad attractions. I'm not talking about attractions, I'm talking about the general 'I Hate IP' thing going on from a lot of people. You are fooling yourself if you think both didn't co-exist to promote each other. Walt saw Disneyland as a platform to promote the company's work, and the company's work to feed back into the Disneyland.

The only people who are on the "I hate IP" train are over on MiceChat. The problem so many people here have is that they're promoting IPs and doing a bad job at it. I love the Incredibles and I really like Guardians of the Galaxy. Guardians of the Galaxy belongs in Tomorrowland, however, as a replacement for Star Tours once Galaxy's Edge opens and The Incredibles needs its own dark ride, not some lazily slapped on static figures on a stylistically wooden roller coaster.

I’ve decided we need a retheme, and I’ve created a new one. Canadiana!!

Pack Moose through Canada's Wonderland

 

[Curious Constance]

The only people who are on the "I hate IP" train are over on MiceChat.

No, I'm actually the conductor on the IP hate train. I would be against any IP even if done extremely well. I wouldn't complain about it all the time, like I don't normally complain about Star Wars Land, but I could still give a rat's Ratatouille about it.

 

[fctiger]

No, I'm actually the conductor on the IP hate train. I would be against any IP even if done extremely well. I wouldn't complain about it all the time, like I don't normally complain about Star Wars Land, but I could still give a rat's Ratatouille about it.

IPs have never bothered me personally. In fact it usually makes me want to see it more. I guess Disney makes them because of people like me lol.

But I also say I have no issue with more original rides either of course, to me, just as long as they are good I will take either/or. But Disney still makes plenty of non-IP rides outside of the domestic parks. I rode Mystic Manor and Grizzly Gulch for the first time this year at HKDL. Both great attractions. But yes it seems like its the international parks that still go out of their way to build them and even they are becoming less and less with all the Star Wars, Marvel and Frozen lands coming worldwide.

I remember I use to tell people, no plead with them, if they really want a different experience, save your money for a few years and go to TDS. That was a park that almost shunned IPs and embrace original attractions and did it well. I use to write on message boards for people who were Disney fans but was becoming more cynical going to DL/WDW ten times a year they weren't building anything original. I use to tell them take a year or two off from those places, don't renew your AP and instead save some money for a year and experience something new and unique like TDS. If you are sick of your home park then try and see something different for a change. Take your family, get a new cultural experience while you're at it. Going to other parks usually give me a sense of excitement about Disney in general. Sadly it was usually met with dead silence lol. And most of those people still went to the same place they begin to despise over and over again so you give up.

But yeah this was years back before TDS started hopping on the IP game more and more (although still an amazing place and my favorite park out of all of them while DL will hold a certain place in my heart having grown up with it). Its just what sells and what people respond to I guess.

 

[TROR]

Here's to hoping Battle Escape uses almost no screens. When an audio animatronic stops working, you get a beautifully sculpted character that just doesn't move, when a screen stops working you get this:

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

Wow! It's like a Disney ride directed by Ed Wood.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

PHOTOS: A Sneak Peek at Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge Entrance from Toy Story Land

 

[TROR]

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PHOTOS: A Sneak Peek at Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge Entrance from Toy Story Land

At least there's some thematic consistency at Disney's Hollywood Studios. You go from the smallness of Toy Story Land to the smallness of Galaxy's Edge.

 

[TP2000]

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PHOTOS: A Sneak Peek at Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge Entrance from Toy Story Land

Wow. So they’re really just laying it all out there to look at at DHS? No taller scrims and walls than that six foot tall hedge?

Or was this just a quick tease given to bloggers on the June 29th media day?

Whatever it was, those pics give a really nice view from an angle we haven’t seen before. At DHS you’re going to walk a couple dozen yards past Alien Swirling Saucers and then BAM! it’s Star Wars. Kind of bizarre.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Or was this just a quick tease given to bloggers on the June 29th media day?

The article says the glimpse was temporary because a backstage area path had to be opened due to the massive crowds on TSL's opening day. According to the author it was only open briefly.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Wow. So they’re really just laying it all out there to look at at DHS? No taller scrims and walls than that six foot tall hedge?

Or was this just a quick tease given to bloggers on the June 29th media day?

Whatever it was, those pics give a really nice view from an angle we haven’t seen before. At DHS you’re going to walk a couple dozen yards past Alien Swirling Saucers and then BAM! it’s Star Wars. Kind of bizarre.

They'll be more berm and trees and an overpass and an s-shaped zig-zag to avoid such a direct view in the end.

 

[Disney Irish]

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PHOTOS: A Sneak Peek at Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge Entrance from Toy Story Land

I like how they take a picture toward the area that specifically says "No Photography". Nice views though...

 

[mickEblu]

At least there's some thematic consistency at Disney's Hollywood Studios. You go from the smallness of Toy Story Land to the smallness of Galaxy's Edge.

Lol.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I like how they take a picture toward the area that specifically says "No Photography". Nice views though...

They need to blow up that sign to 50 times it's size and lay it down to point up to the sky...

 

[Disney Irish]

They need to blow up that sign to 50 times it's size and lay it down to point up to the sky...

Agreed.

Now is it just me or based on these pictures does the DLR SW:GE look taller and more mountainous than DHS SW:GE?

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

Looks more like Jurassic Park than Star Wars in those photos.

 

[VJ]

I like how they take a picture toward the area that specifically says "No Photography". Nice views though...

 

[Disney Analyst]

The only people who are on the "I hate IP" train are over on MiceChat. The problem so many people here have is that they're promoting IPs and doing a bad job at it. I love the Incredibles and I really like Guardians of the Galaxy. Guardians of the Galaxy belongs in Tomorrowland, however, as a replacement for Star Tours once Galaxy's Edge opens and The Incredibles needs its own dark ride, not some lazily slapped on static figures on a stylistically wooden roller coaster.


Pack Moose through Canada's Wonderland

Okay but seriously! I would ride a moose in a heartbeat.