News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

[Curious Constance]

Even if the roleplaying aspect of the Star Wars hotel doesn't pay off, they're still going to have carved out a new Super Deluxe class of resort for guests to stay at and feel immersed in a sci-fi setting. From what I've heard, there will be a lot included in the price tag -- it's not just typical lodging. More cruise-like in nature. Guests are already paying outrageous fees for the Deluxe resorts at WDW, coming for week+ long stays multiple times a year. This is aimed at the high rollers of the WDW community, of which there is no shortage of.

That said, I do believe Disney has done enough testing and market research to validate moving forward with the project in its intended form. Star Wars has 40 years of insane fandom under its belt -- I really don't think one misstep in the box office isn't going to rattle them from a project like this.

Was I did drunk when I wrote that last post?

 

[dweezil78]

Was I did drunk when I wrote that last post?

Haha, you tell me!

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

Hate to say this but that looks like where its heading. The Asia parks for example, at least Shanghai, they already have FP that is basically done though the app like Max Pass (but free). They still have traditional FP machines but it was pretty obvious most people did it though their phones. And Tokyo resort also just introduced a FP system you can use on your phone a few months back. My guess is this what the American parks wants to do and in time a paperless future. And I can see more things like ordering food online which they seem to be trying out.

I don't think it will ever get to the point you have to rely 100% on your phone but like most things today it will probably just be the most convenient way to do things. The future is now.

I might be one of the only people out there who doesn’t use FP. Ever. Like I maybe used it once for WoC and one time a CM handed me a free pass, but yeah.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

Too late. Have you actually BEEN in the parks recently? / snark

::sigh:: yes, and it’s disheartening.

 

[Rich T]

I might be one of the only people out there who doesn’t use FP. Ever. Like I maybe used it once for WoC and one time a CM handed me a free pass, but yeah.

For riding everything with nearly no wait, I use this amazing secret a lot of people haven't discovered yet. It's called GUE (Getting Up Early).

 

[Rich T]

Awesome SW-related Bloom County strip today: https://www.facebook.com/berkeleybr....1527869054./1984451398252270/?type=3&theater

 

[Phroobar]

For riding everything with nearly no wait, I use this amazing secret a lot of people haven't discovered yet. It's called GUE (Getting Up Early).

It works at Magic Mountain. The gang members don't wake up until at least noon there.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

For riding everything with nearly no wait, I use this amazing secret a lot of people haven't discovered yet. It's called GUE (Getting Up Early).

Funny you mention that...because for the longest time I've employed a similar tactic called SSL (Staying Super Late). Also, nothing beats a near empty park at night time.

 

[Phroobar]

Funny you mention that...because for the longest time I've employed a similar tactic called SSL (Staying Super Late). Also, nothing beats a near empty park at night time.

They all leave after the fireworks. (sometimes during)

 

[TROR]

I utilize both GUE and SSL for the ultimate experience.

 

[Rich T]

I utilize both GUE and SSL for the ultimate experience.

Me, too -- with some LaPaLL (Laughing and Pointing at Long Lines) in between.

There's a Single Rider Line, people!

 

[Ismael Flores]

Me, too -- with some LaPaLL (Laughing and Pointing at Long Lines) in between.
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There's a Single Rider Line, people!

oh man is that they line for RSR? I would never get in line if i saw that. Even getting in line when it is within the internal queue is a nightmare. The last time i went on it, the line started next to the stanley Oasis fountain right before entering the small buildings. The bottle house wasn't even being used either. We still took over about two hour to get on the ride and the only reason we didn't walk out was because we met a family that we enjoyed talking with.

we later found out while in line and talking to other people, that the line was so short on standby because everyone walked away frustrated. The problem was that the CM's held back the standby and were letting just fastness people in. The ride had gone down previously in the day and they wanted to get those fastness people out of the queue. Once they got rid of those fastness people another set of fastpass group showed up and the chain of back ups continued.

I think that at that point the CM's should have allowed standby people to also board even if it was a handful at a time instead of just freezing the line altogether. Or they should have closed off the standby line completely and warn guests.
or maybe they should add a policy that fastness can only be used within the time allowed even if an attraction goes 101.
Their mistake was to honor every fastpass including those that had ride windows within the time of breakdown

 

[Disney Irish]

....or maybe they should add a policy that fastness can only be used within the time allowed even if an attraction goes 101.

I think that is the case now, especially with MaxPass. I know with MaxPass if an attraction goes 101, the pass turns into a free to use on any FP attraction.

 

[Rich T]

oh man is that they line for RSR? I would never get in line if i saw that. Even getting in line when it is within the internal queue is a nightmare. The last time i went on it, the line started next to the stanley Oasis fountain right before entering the small buildings. The bottle house wasn't even being used either. We still took over about two hour to get on the ride and the only reason we didn't walk out was because we met a family that we enjoyed talking with.

we later found out while in line and talking to other people, that the line was so short on standby because everyone walked away frustrated. The problem was that the CM's held back the standby and were letting just fastness people in. The ride had gone down previously in the day and they wanted to get those fastness people out of the queue. Once they got rid of those fastness people another set of fastpass group showed up and the chain of back ups continued.

I think that at that point the CM's should have allowed standby people to also board even if it was a handful at a time instead of just freezing the line altogether. Or they should have closed off the standby line completely and warn guests.
or maybe they should add a policy that fastness can only be used within the time allowed even if an attraction goes 101.
Their mistake was to honor every fastpass including those that had ride windows within the time of breakdown

That picture was taken from my family's table at Flo's, enjoying a nice round of shakes. We'd ridden twice with no wait (and no Fast Passes) that morning (once at rope drop followed by immediate walk-on via Single Rider.)

 

[Phroobar]

The thing is they are suppose to let an equal number of fast pass vs stand by line in at a time. They should let say 40 fast pass and then make them wait for 40 stand by. You don't keep letting fast pass go on when they show up without giving equal time to the stand by. That's just a really poorly trained CM acting as traffic cop. That is why there should not be fast pass at all. Maybe the traffic cop cast member should be replaced with a computer operated turn style that checks the line after the merger and then lets in equal number of people for each side.

 

[Jones14]

I love AA's. But they belong in their attractions, not out free.
And sadly, AA's are a dying breed. It really is a shame that so much is becoming screen-based.

I don't know that I'd agree. Every ride built in WDW from 2010 on (minus Flight of Passage) features at least one AA, and even that one has one in the queue. Mission: Breakout added an AA to Tower of Terror, and Radiator Springs is full of them. Battle Escape is supposed to have some, too.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

I don't know that I'd agree. Every ride built in WDW from 2010 on (minus Flight of Passage) features at least one AA, and even that one has one in the queue. Mission: Breakout added an AA to Tower of Terror, and Radiator Springs is full of them. Battle Escape is supposed to have some, too.

I hope you're correct that screen-reliance won't become a thing at Disney parks. I know BE is supposed to have a bunch of Stormtrooper AA's but I've also heard it compared to Transformers overall, which if I'm honest, is really tempering my expectations.

 

[TROR]

I don't know that I'd agree. Every ride built in WDW from 2010 on (minus Flight of Passage) features at least one AA, and even that one has one in the queue. Mission: Breakout added an AA to Tower of Terror, and Radiator Springs is full of them. Battle Escape is supposed to have some, too.

He said dying, not dead. There was a time when attractions would have whole casts of animatronics such as Pirates of the Caribbean, Haunted Mansion, and America Sings. The only attraction as of late that's had that is Radiator Springs Racers. To be fair, not every attraction needs even a singular animatronic, such as Tower of Terror or Storybookland Canals, but when an attraction features characters and uses a screen to represent them in place of an audio animatronic, it's definitely a problem and I'm very much afraid that will happen with Battle Escape.

 

[Jones14]

He said dying, not dead. There was a time when attractions would have whole casts of animatronics such as Pirates of the Caribbean, Haunted Mansion, and America Sings. The only attraction as of late that's had that is Radiator Springs Racers. To be fair, not every attraction needs even a singular animatronic, such as Tower of Terror or Storybookland Canals, but when an attraction features characters and uses a screen to represent them in place of an audio animatronic, it's definitely a problem and I'm very much afraid that will happen with Battle Escape.

That’s certainly a fair assessment, but I would argue that the general reduction in number of AA’s per attraction is part of a ‘quality over quantity’ push rather than a desire to get rid of them over time.

Today’s guests expect AA’s to be fluid, fast, and heavily articulated. Disney has shown that they can build Auctioneers, Shamans, and Tow Mater’s, and now, new attractions are expected to maintain that quality. In the 1970’s, Frozen Ever After could’ve gotten away with painted backgrounds, static figures, and blacklights. Now, E Tickets and minor diversions alike are held to the same standard.

That’s a GREAT thing (and Disney’s high bar for themselves created this ‘problem’), but that means that every animatronic is automatically more time consuming and expensive to make than before.

When given the choice of less AA’s, but more impressive ones, or more, but less impressive ones, Disney seems to prefer the first option. Even so, sometimes they go all out (RSR, presumably Battle Escape).

 

[TROR]

That’s certainly a fair assessment, but I would argue that the general reduction in number of AA’s per attraction is part of a ‘quality over quantity’ push rather than a desire to get rid of them over time.

Today’s guests expect AA’s to be fluid, fast, and heavily articulated. Disney has shown that they can build Auctioneers, Shamans, and Tow Mater’s, and now, new attractions are expected to maintain that quality. In the 1970’s, Frozen Ever After could’ve gotten away with painted backgrounds, static figures, and blacklights. Now, E Tickets and minor diversions alike are held to the same standard.

That’s a GREAT thing (and Disney’s high bar for themselves created this ‘problem’), but that means that every animatronic is automatically more time consuming and expensive to make than before.

When given the choice of less AA’s, but more impressive ones, or more, but less impressive ones, Disney seems to prefer the first option. Even so, sometimes they go all out (RSR, presumably Battle Escape).

I definitely disagree with Disney's choice. For me, I much prefer lots of standard animatronics than just one amazing animatronic. Pirates of the Caribbean is still mind blowing just by its sheer scale.