Hatbox Ghostbuster
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Not to mention selling WAY more AP's than they probably should...
But this is what happens when all Disney sees is $$$.
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But this is what happens when all Disney sees is $$$.
Using the drop-off numbers from TLJ and Spider-Man Homecoming, both of which 'had legs', then after two months, Solo would be between $230 - $240 million domestically. That's in the range of a pretty good Box Office if you're not grading on the SW's curve. International B.O., historically for SW, should match that.
Hatbox Ghostbuster
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$230-240m would be pretty good for most movies...but pretty poor for anything under the Iger regime. Shame shame, sit on the naughty step!
Also, crazy that SP:HC only spent 1 week at number 1. ONE WEEK.
TP2000
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For you young'uns out there, yes during the Disco Era things like the Country Bear Jamboree and the Enchanted Tiki Room were E Tickets. You paid cash money to get into those animatronic shows, the same as you paid to ride Space Mountain or Pirates.
Here is an E Ticket from 1978, six years after the Country Bear Jamboree opened and 15 years after the Enchanted Tiki Room opened.
We wouldn't consider those shows E Tickets in the 21st century, but for the purposes of discussing crowd demand and customer response to things like Star Wars Land, the animatronic shows of the 1960's and 70's were similarly priced and regulated.
Here is an E Ticket from 1978, six years after the Country Bear Jamboree opened and 15 years after the Enchanted Tiki Room opened.
We wouldn't consider those shows E Tickets in the 21st century, but for the purposes of discussing crowd demand and customer response to things like Star Wars Land, the animatronic shows of the 1960's and 70's were similarly priced and regulated.
SSG
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Yup, the park will be pretty unpleasant for a solid year or two (my guess) while Disney grapples with the logistical issues GE will bring.
mickEblu
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I agree. I was just trying to come up with the most terrible rumor possible.
dweezil78
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I'm not saying there isn't concern/re-evaluation going on about the Star Wars film slate - but I really don't think for a second that they are freaking about about the success of Star Wars in the parks over this.
nevol
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LoL and we might be pulling our hair out together here in a few years if they go with something more along those lines than what I'm hoping for.
Hatbox Ghostbuster
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Agreed. Films on the other hand...
nevol
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I was told by someone at wdi last year that the budget for star wars land had already been cut several hundred millions of dollars. The steel had already been ordered, but the show/media, he said, would take a hit. The culture just last year was one of "we can never build Pandora again" because of the cost. Maybe, hopefully, that fear has been lifted based on the success of pandora? Given the NVIDIA collaboration, and everything we have seen and heard thus far, I see no evidence that the level of show has been diminished. We may never truly know what was planned or if what we finally see is any different than what they wanted it to be 24 months ago.
Less reliable because I don't know Dusty's sources, but he said sometime recently that there was a team of imagineers working on a star wars hotel for anaheim before it got scrapped and they were laid off due to #thanksshanghai. Doesn't mean that project won't be revived if the profit incentive is strong enough.
mickEblu
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Great article. Thanks for sharing. All I could think of when reading it was what a departure GOTG:MB is from their core philosophies.
Curious Constance
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I can agree with you on the parks, people would ride a hot dog trolley if it was fun, but the hotel is another matter all together. Given this likely cost of this thing, and the tons of other options nearby, any kind of downward trend in Star Wars popularity would have to
dweezil78
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Even if the roleplaying aspect of the Star Wars hotel doesn't pay off, they're still going to have carved out a new Super Deluxe class of resort for guests to stay at and feel immersed in a sci-fi setting. From what I've heard, there will be a lot included in the price tag -- it's not just typical lodging. More cruise-like in nature. Guests are already paying outrageous fees for the Deluxe resorts at WDW, coming for week+ long stays multiple times a year. This is aimed at the high rollers of the WDW community, of which there is no shortage of.
That said, I do believe Disney has done enough testing and market research to validate moving forward with the project in its intended form. Star Wars has 40 years of insane fandom under its belt -- I really don't think one misstep in the box office isn't going to rattle them from a project like this.
Old Mouseketeer
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Too late. Have you actually BEEN in the parks recently? / snark
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Here's a list of the top 20 grossing Marvel films from Box Office Mojo. Of course this isn't an apple to apples comparison with SW, but excluding everything and just looking at box office I think it's a fair way to gauge the health of the SW brand.
tl;dr, SW as a franchise isn't going anywhere just because Solo may not be the big hit Disney had hoped.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=marvelcomics.htm
George Lucas on a Bench
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Is that adjusted for inflation? Those Tobey Spider-Man flicks still have some nice box office numbers after all these years.
Old Mouseketeer
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Yes and no. I had friends who worked the introduction of FastPass to Fantasmic!!. They actually learned some hard lessons from that process. My favorite story is that during testing of traffic flow before activating FastPass, they actually gridlocked the Hub in front of Frontierland and Adventureland. The radio call went out that "the Hub is 101 (the code for broken)". They "broke" the Hub. My friends explained to me that this is actually a huge safety issue. Remember, the bypass behind the East side of Main St. wasn't open yet.
The new Big Thunder Trail is remarkably wide with setbacks for benches and ODV (except for one odd bottleneck on the corner of BTMRR). They have put a wide approach next to Hungry Bear and cleared access through Adventureland. What remains to be seen is the walkway through NOS along ROA. The rumor is they are going to narrow the viewing terraces for Fan!!.
The question is whether we will have the results of DCA 1.0 or DCA 2.0.
Hate to say this but that looks like where its heading. The Asia parks for example, at least Shanghai, they already have FP that is basically done though the app like Max Pass (but free). They still have traditional FP machines but it was pretty obvious most people did it though their phones. And Tokyo resort also just introduced a FP system you can use on your phone a few months back. My guess is this what the American parks wants to do and in time a paperless future. And I can see more things like ordering food online which they seem to be trying out.
I don't think it will ever get to the point you have to rely 100% on your phone but like most things today it will probably just be the most convenient way to do things. The future is now.
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They shouldn't be. Most people simply didn't want a Solo film. Most rolled their eyes over the idea (I certainly did) and the behind the scenes drama didn't help it. So its not a shock its not doing that well, especially after five months of a major SW movie opened. Now if Episode 9 do under a billion then they may be cause for concern but thats 18 months away now.