News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

[Disney Irish]

This is news right? Up until tonight I think we all assumed they were jagged cliffs.

Yep, but I'm sure it was chosen to be able to blend in with ROA. Petrified trees or jagged cliffs, it blends in nicely with ROA. DHS just came along for the ride, lol.

https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...ame-of-the-village-in-star-wars-galaxys-edge/

 

[mickEblu]

Yep, but I'm sure it was chosen to be able to blend in with ROA. Petrified trees or jagged cliffs, it blends in nicely with ROA. DHS just came along for the ride, lol.

https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...ame-of-the-village-in-star-wars-galaxys-edge/

They should have themed the DHS rock work to a Muppets version of Mount Rushmore. Right @TP2000? That way it would blend in more.

 

[TP2000]

They should have themed the DHS rock work to a Muppets version of Mount Rushmore. Right @TP2000? That way it would blend in more.

I'm a patriotic guy and would love a Muppets version of Mount Rushmore, but... They should have themed Star Wars Land rockwork in DHS to Mount Baldy, since the DHS version sits at the end of a modern day Los Angeles streetscape that looks nothing like any modern day Los Angeles streetscape.

Mount Baldy behind Los Angeles skyline.

DHS and its sanitized, architecturally inaccurate, and oddly-landscaped version of LA's Grand Avenue as the entry portal to Star Wars Land.

Seriously, does that look like Grand Avenue or any streetscape in downtown Los Angeles to anyone?!? Answer: No, it does not.

 

[winstongator]

Hyperbolic headlines, its right in line with the other Memorial Day openings. Even with your Sunday "estimates" it still broke into the top 10 of all time Memorial Day openings. By the time Monday numbers come in it might even be in the top 5. So yeah facts are facts....

Here is the current Memorial Day openings. Solo isn't shown yet, but it will.

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That's not the list I want Star Wars Stories compared to. I went to see the original F&F on my honeymoon, enjoyed Hangover 1, love Indy (but didn't see Crystal Skull). There are some not so good movies on that list.

 

[Disney Irish]

That's not the list I want Star Wars Stories compared to. I went to see the original F&F on my honeymoon, enjoyed Hangover 1, love Indy (but didn't see Crystal Skull). There are some not so good movies on that list.

Point is that Memorial Day weekend has never been a big weekend for raking in big box office numbers. So comparatively Solo is doing just as well as other movies that opened on Memorial Day weekend.

Btw, Solo is doing better than the prequels during the 4 days which also opened around Memorial Day weekend:

 

[winstongator]

Point is that Memorial Day weekend has never been a big weekend for raking in big box office numbers. So comparatively Solo is doing just as well as other movies that opened on Memorial Day weekend.

Btw, Solo is doing better than the prequels during the 4 days which also opened around Memorial Day weekend:

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Just inflation adjusting would make Phantom Menace #7. Movie tickets, like Disney tickets, have outstripped inflation. Also, that was not TPM's opening weekend - its 3rd. Ironically, it did better that weekend than its opening weekend. Does anyone think Solo will do better in its 3rd weekend than it did this weekend? TPM led the box office for 4 straight weeks.

 

[Disney Irish]

Just inflation adjusting would make Phantom Menace #7. Movie tickets, like Disney tickets, have outstripped inflation. Also, that was not TPM's opening weekend - its 3rd. Ironically, it did better that weekend than its opening weekend. Does anyone think Solo will do better in its 3rd weekend than it did this weekend? TPM led the box office for 4 straight weeks.

Actually TPM would come in at #11, not 7, when adjusted for inflation. And yes I believe Solo will do better in the next couple of weeks. I also believe it'll hit over $100 Million when Monday (today) sales come in. Which will put it above Ep 2 and 3 for Memorial Day weekend, even after adjusting for inflation.

Again the point is that Memorial Day weekend has and continues to not be a large box office weekend. I don't know why the studios continue to think its going to be different year after year.

 

[winstongator]

Actually TPM would come in at #11, not 7, when adjusted for inflation. And yes I believe Solo will do better in the next couple of weeks. I also believe it'll hit over $100 Million when Monday (today) sales come in. Which will put it above Ep 2 and 3 for Memorial Day weekend, even after adjusting for inflation.

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Again the point is that Memorial Day weekend has and continues to not be a large box office weekend. I don't know why the studios continue to think its going to be different year after year.

I was putting TPM into the opening MD weekends table. I missed the tiny inflation adjuster button BOM provides. Solo is on target for $101M. Well below estimates, and will be below TPM's 3rd weekend. I'd make a huge wager Solo does not do better next weekend, based solely on it being a normal 2 day weekend. I also can't find a blockbuster movie that did better its 2nd weekend.

I liked the movie, quite a bit. However, it's underperformance relative to expectations is just a measuring exercise. Why did it underperform? I don't buy the saturation/fatigue (Marvel is the counterexample) nor the MD weekend dragging it.

 

[Disney Irish]

I was putting TPM into the opening MD weekends table. I missed the tiny inflation adjuster button BOM provides. Solo is on target for $101M. Well below estimates, and will be below TPM's 3rd weekend. I'd make a huge wager Solo does not do better next weekend, based solely on it being a normal 2 day weekend. I also can't find a blockbuster movie that did better its 2nd weekend.

I liked the movie, quite a bit. However, it's underperformance relative to expectations is just a measuring exercise. Why did it underperform? I don't buy the saturation/fatigue (Marvel is the counterexample) nor the MD weekend dragging it.

We’ll see how it shakes out, but I have a feeling it’ll be fine. Even if it isn’t I would read too much into it. Ep 9 will still be a hit as it closes the book on the new trilogy.

 

[Incomudro]

I was putting TPM into the opening MD weekends table. I missed the tiny inflation adjuster button BOM provides. Solo is on target for $101M. Well below estimates, and will be below TPM's 3rd weekend. I'd make a huge wager Solo does not do better next weekend, based solely on it being a normal 2 day weekend. I also can't find a blockbuster movie that did better its 2nd weekend.

I liked the movie, quite a bit. However, it's underperformance relative to expectations is just a measuring exercise. Why did it underperform? I don't buy the saturation/fatigue (Marvel is the counterexample) nor the MD weekend dragging it.

Marvel - as in Infinity Wars - didn't reach saturation/fatigue, because the whole franchise has been chronologically towards Infinity Wars.
Infinity Wars was the culmination fans have been waiting for.
Solo is a tangent.
This doesn't mean that fans haven't hankered for a Han Solo movie, but the franchise hasn't been engineered with a Solo movie as its climax.

 

[britain]

I was putting TPM into the opening MD weekends table. I missed the tiny inflation adjuster button BOM provides. Solo is on target for $101M. Well below estimates, and will be below TPM's 3rd weekend. I'd make a huge wager Solo does not do better next weekend, based solely on it being a normal 2 day weekend. I also can't find a blockbuster movie that did better its 2nd weekend.

I liked the movie, quite a bit. However, it's underperformance relative to expectations is just a measuring exercise. Why did it underperform? I don't buy the saturation/fatigue (Marvel is the counterexample) nor the MD weekend dragging it.

I think Titanic actually went up its second weekend? Maybe.

 

[Rich T]

Bottom line about Solo: Its performance is a huge disappointment for Disney, and considering its budget overruns and awful performance overseas, it'll lose money.

It's Disney's own fault for releasing it so soon after LJ and too close to Avengers. I haven't seen Solo, but the consensus is it's a good film.

This is hardly a disaster for the franchise, but certainly a wake up call for Disney. The GP likes SW, but not THAT MUCH Star Wars THAT OFTEN, and, yes, Harrison Ford was that important to the character's popularity.

It's been pointed out around the media that this film does mark a big moment in the SW franchise: It's the first SW movie to not be perceived as an "Event" by the GP. Now Disney needs to decide if they're okay with that, and willing to keep making non-saga entries with lower box office expectations. Certainly, future efforts should be free of the cost overruns that weighed down Solo's profit hopes.

This is Star Wars' Monsters University: a good film that didn't quite catch fire and marked the start of a new era. The Star Wars films, like Pixar films, aren't guaranteed to break records based soley on brand name anymore. Star Wars will be fine. If anything, this should give Disney a needed slap-in-the-face reminder about release date timing.

 

[Curious Constance]

Star Wars has become more about being preachy and pushing cultural agendas, and less about telling a fun, entertaining story. They've abandoned their core audience and that becomes more obvious with each movie released.

I predict this movie's performance is just the beginning. After the final Episode 9, I think Star Wars movies will be one lack luster performance after another.

 

[TROR]

The fanbase has ruptured. The collapse of the franchise has begun.

 

[Rich T]

Star Wars has become more about being preachy and pushing cultural agendas, and less about telling a fun, entertaining story. They've abandoned their core audience and that becomes more obvious with each movie released.

I predict this movie's performance is just the beginning. After the final Episode 9, I think Star Wars movies will be one lack luster performance after another.

Episode 9 certainly has a huge burden on its shoulders now. LJ left many fans with the feeling that the writers and directors are just making it up as they go along, that there's no story arc master plan, and that nothing will have a good payoff. Disney needs to fix this.

 

[Incomudro]

Star Wars has become more about being preachy and pushing cultural agendas, and less about telling a fun, entertaining story. They've abandoned their core audience and that becomes more obvious with each movie released.

I predict this movie's performance is just the beginning. After the final Episode 9, I think Star Wars movies will be one lack luster performance after another.

I agree with your first paragraph.
Star Wars has always offered the - now much overused word - diversity. But it didn't seem forced.
It simply existed.
Some of these later movies seem to be pushing it for the sake of pushing it, and the audience can sense that.
I believe the use of Rey - even though I do like her, as the lead next Jedi was a bit of a mistake too.
Yes, girls like Star Wars too, girl power, and all that... Nothing wrong with it.
But...
You had a franchise which, let's face it - had a predominantly young male audience.
If it were up to me, Rey's character would have been male - since that's the character most of the young fans are supposed to imagine themselves to be.

 

[Rich T]

I agree with your first paragraph.
Star Wars has always offered the - now much overused word - diversity. But it didn't seem forced.
It simply existed.
Some of these later movies seem to be pushing it for the sake of pushing it, and the audience can sense that.
I believe the use of Rey - even though I do like her, as the lead next Jedi was a bit of a mistake too.
Yes, girls like Star Wars too, girl power, and all that... Nothing wrong with it.
But...
You had a franchise which, let's face it - had a predominantly young male audience.
If it were up to me, Rey's character would have been male - since that's the character most of the young fans are supposed to imagine themselves to be.

I'm fine with Rey; she rocked in Ep 7. But the most likeable thing about Force Awakens was the camaraderie between Rey, Finn and Poe. That should have been the focus from that point forward, and LJ kinda threw all that out the window. Along with just about everything else.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

Star Wars was intended to be a popcorn space movie for young boys.

 

[dweezil78]

Yes, Solo was a bomb. No Star Wars isn’t doomed. People love rushing to extremes on here!

 

[Disney Irish]

It's Disney's own fault for releasing it so soon after LJ and too close to Avengers.

If anything, this should give Disney a needed slap-in-the-face reminder about release date timing.

On these points I will agree. They really should have released Solo later in the summer. That is the only problem with Disney having a bunch of movies coming out from the different studios, they have to juggle the schedule so one doesn't step on the others. And with Fox (which hopefully the merger still happens) it'll be even harder. Disney has 11 films, if they haven't dropped any, coming out in 2019. So they are bound to step on each other.

BTW, in my opinion its not Disney that needs to adjust their expectations on box office returns. Its wall street, the media, and fans. Every SW films doesn't have to break box office records. Just like with Marvel, the standalone films pull in less than the team up films. SW looks to be going the same way.