News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

dweezil78

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Hmmmm... Honestly, this whole thing just feels like an excuse for Alain to re-run an old article of Landkmark Entertainment artwork, which he does all the time. No way would Universal put SW:GE type dollars into a Star Trek expansion in this climate given its recent performance both in theaters and on TV. Each of the sequels for the reboot have all pulled in less $$$ than the first one (the most recent one was pretty abysmal, all things considered). Not the kind of business that's going to greenlight anything worth getting excited about.
 

nevol

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Not true. The old graphic on Micechat labelled the service area "expansion pad" with no justification. There are two support buildings already completed on that site with no feasible alternative to relocate them in the future. They are part of SW:GE. The permit for the one-story building lists it as wardrobe and dressing. This makes sense because we already know that atmosphere characters will play a big role in the new area. SW:GE will need a lot of support for costuming, both for entertainment and for operations CMs. It's rumored that even custodial will be in themed costumes. My rebel spies don't know exactly how elaborate this will be, but they are expecting it to be substantial.
This is not an expansion pad--it's a service area.

Then why in 2017's galactic nights parks presentation (that is far more insightful than 2018's but made a smaller splash on social media) is Scott Trowbridge on film discussing how that land is set aside in case one of the new star wars films has a scene, vehicle, location that guests just have to visit? aka expansion/3rd e-ticket pad. It is present in disneyland's and wdw's. Straight from the horse's mouth. This isn't isolated to micechat. Sorry, those costume sheds can be relocated. They don't require 4 acres indefinitely, just as the green wdi sheds behind TOT/M;BO won't be there forever. Just like the backstage area behind ROA wasn't permanent once something more important came along. When the time and money is right and the crowds are crushing them, they will most certainly expand.

I don't know where it's mentioned, or if its even in this video, but this was so thought-provoking the first time I watched it that I watched it a few times. When I find the time i'll share but I'd recommend watching this regardless. If it isn't in here he must have said it at d23 in an interview in front of the model. The search ensues
 
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dweezil78

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I have Landmark's collection in my posession. I spoke with Alain about it and the very next day that article went up. The rumors were coincidental, but me reaching out to him wasn't as the landmark collection I have now is where select items he's written about in the past have come from. If anybody is interested please take it off my hands. I can barely walk around my apartment now. Just kidding I'd like to put a show together first.
Oz from concept through architectural drawings
neverland
early universal studios florida master plan design iterations and an aerial line drawing
star trek Enterprise vegas blueprints-hundreds of pounds of them
t2:3d and spiderman concept art
dca entrance complex/golden gate bridge 100% design review (34 pages of blueprints)
line drawings and watercolors of the Caesar's palace facade in las vegas
playboy, rolling stones, grammy's, hard rock theme parks. warner bros. entertainment center and warner brothers movie world madrid. a bunch of miscellaneous but beautiful projects. hersheypark. etc etc. captain planet, candyland, character development for nonpark projects.

Nice! Did you acquire all that when it was being sold off back in ‘09 or so — or were you the one selling it? I have a few pieces in my collection too!
 

Phroobar

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At least Star Wars has some consistency within itself...

Anyways, Solo is a going to be a bigger flop than I realized. Absolutely none of the showings tonight in my town were even close to being sold out. There's currently a showing that's going to start in 10 minutes with only 3 tickets sold so far. And another at 12:30 with no tickets sold. That's seriously ridiculous for a Star Wars movie.
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MisterPenguin

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At least Star Wars has some consistency within itself...

Anyways, Solo is a going to be a bigger flop than I realized. Absolutely none of the showings tonight in my town were even close to being sold out. There's currently a showing that's going to start in 10 minutes with only 3 tickets sold so far. And another at 12:30 with no tickets sold. That's seriously ridiculous for a Star Wars movie.

And yet, the Thursday night numbers has it tracking as well as any other recent mega-hit.

I expect it to have a big opening and fall off quickly (it's not really a see-again movie). But it will big enough to be a big hit by Hollywood standards if not by a certain section of the fan base who demand each subsequent SW movie do as much or better than TFA.
 

Ismael Flores

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At least Star Wars has some consistency within itself...

Anyways, Solo is a going to be a bigger flop than I realized. Absolutely none of the showings tonight in my town were even close to being sold out. There's currently a showing that's going to start in 10 minutes with only 3 tickets sold so far. And another at 12:30 with no tickets sold. That's seriously ridiculous for a Star Wars movie.

It does seem to be coming in power than any of the other Star Wars movies.
The early projections though do show it at 13-15 million previews and about a 130+ opening.
So it’s staying within projection and if it stays it will be the top opening for a memorial weekend release.

The China numbers are bad also but that was expected
 

HauntedMansionFLA

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Not true. The old graphic on Micechat labelled the service area "expansion pad" with no justification. There are two support buildings already completed on that site with no feasible alternative to relocate them in the future. They are part of SW:GE. The permit for the one-story building lists it as wardrobe and dressing. This makes sense because we already know that atmosphere characters will play a big role in the new area. SW:GE will need a lot of support for costuming, both for entertainment and for operations CMs. It's rumored that even custodial will be in themed costumes. My rebel spies don't know exactly how elaborate this will be, but they are expecting it to be substantial.
This is not an expansion pad--it's a service area.
That’s a shame they didn’t leave room for an expansion
 

Stevek

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At least Star Wars has some consistency within itself...

Anyways, Solo is a going to be a bigger flop than I realized. Absolutely none of the showings tonight in my town were even close to being sold out. There's currently a showing that's going to start in 10 minutes with only 3 tickets sold so far. And another at 12:30 with no tickets sold. That's seriously ridiculous for a Star Wars movie.
It set a record for the largest Thursday Memorial day opening. It won't be a flop, but will likely make less than other SW movies.

I saw it last night, absolutely loved it.
 

SSG

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Anyways, Solo is a going to be a bigger flop than I realized. Absolutely none of the showings tonight in my town were even close to being sold out. There's currently a showing that's going to start in 10 minutes with only 3 tickets sold so far. And another at 12:30 with no tickets sold. That's seriously ridiculous for a Star Wars movie.

According to Variety, "Solo" is looking like a mixed bag:

"Solo: A Star Wars Story" earned a record-breaking $14.1 million at its Thursday night preview screening.
It's projected to earn around $140 million during the Memorial Day weekend, which would also be a record.
But that would make "Solo" the lowest-grossing opening ever for a "Star Wars" movie since Disney took over the franchise.
Even "Rogue One" had a better opening weekend ($155 million).

All in all, it’s looking like a solid hit but not a monster, nor a flop

EDIT: Variety was discussing info from Business Insider.
 

mickEblu

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According to Variety, "Solo" is looking like a mixed bag:

"Solo: A Star Wars Story" earned a record-breaking $14.1 million at its Thursday night preview screening.
It's projected to earn around $140 million during the Memorial Day weekend, which would also be a record.
But that would make "Solo" the lowest-grossing opening ever for a "Star Wars" movie since Disney took over the franchise.
Even "Rogue One" had a better opening weekend ($155 million).

All in all, it’s looking like a solid hit but not a monster, nor a flop

EDIT: Variety was discussing info from Business Insider.

This was bound to happen when they re releasing a Star Wars movie every 6 months.
 

dweezil78

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Dumb luck. Spent 120k on grad school to work in this industry and a few months after graduation, portfolio incomplete so I'm not looking for work just yet, my friend mentions me to his boss in a completely unrelated industry, and his boss said that his grandpa used to own landmark. All of their assets were left to him and he was the one who sold a lot of the collection back to Gary Goddard and others back in '09. Some gems are definitely lost but there are still a lot of valuable pieces and really interesting design process pieces that I want to present soon in an ebook or museum exhibition before selling it off. It also has to be scanned and digitally archived too, otherwise this body of work just gets splintered across its buyers and disappears forever. There are wonderful drawings on tracing paper with white out and pieces of paper with architectural edits taped on top of them. Design through collaging because photoshop wasn't a thing!

Ha, that's amazing! Do you know that guy Eric who was originally selling it off back in '09? I had bought a few pieces from him then. There was so much incredible stuff in that collection, you can find some of it on ebay now. I have some really cool full-color originals, some sketches (from Eddie Sotto!) along with a handful of prints/boards I picked up on the cheap. It's a shame about what went down with Gary in recent months, kind of taints the company's legacy a bit -- but fortunately he wasn't the one doing the artwork!
 

dweezil78

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According to Variety, "Solo" is looking like a mixed bag:

"Solo: A Star Wars Story" earned a record-breaking $14.1 million at its Thursday night preview screening.
It's projected to earn around $140 million during the Memorial Day weekend, which would also be a record.
But that would make "Solo" the lowest-grossing opening ever for a "Star Wars" movie since Disney took over the franchise.
Even "Rogue One" had a better opening weekend ($155 million).

All in all, it’s looking like a solid hit but not a monster, nor a flop

EDIT: Variety was discussing info from Business Insider.

I think, in order to view Solo with the right perspective, you have to look to what Disney has been doing with Marvel. From here on out, not every movie is of the same stature as a 'Star Wars' trilogy movie anymore. For the first few years, just for the sheer fact that it's STAR WARS, all those new films were going to do gangbusters. But now that things have leveled out, I think you'll see more varying BO performance as they position Star Wars as an entertainment/content brand in the same way as Marvel.

Not every Star Wars movie is going to do trilogy saga #s anymore, in the same way not every Marvel movie (i.e. 'Antman') is going to do Avengers #s.

That said, I'm sure the initial hope was that Solo would crush it -- but it was obvious a very long time ago that wasn't going to be the case.
 

Phroobar

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I think, in order to view Solo with the right perspective, you have to look to what Disney has been doing with Marvel. From here on out, not every movie is of the same stature as a 'Star Wars' trilogy movie anymore. For the first few years, just for the sheer fact that it's STAR WARS, all those new films were going to do gangbusters. But now that things have leveled out, I think you'll see more varying BO performance as they position Star Wars as an entertainment/content brand in the same way as Marvel.

Not every Star Wars movie is going to do trilogy saga #s anymore, in the same way not every Marvel movie (i.e. 'Antman') is going to do Avengers #s.

That said, I'm sure the initial hope was that Solo would crush it -- but it was obvious a very long time ago that wasn't going to be the case.
True. It eventually has to happen that we just get a solid movie but not highest grossing movie of all time status and that okay. I'd prefer a solid star wars movie with original stories compared to jedi/sith/rebel/empire stuff. I want to see stuff based in that universe. I look forward to the one off stories over the trilogy stuff. I want to see Disney make something that is Star Wars but with no preexisting characters in it. I don't think they are brave enough just yet.
 

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