Hatbox Ghostbuster
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I think someone somewhere mentioned these being used in some way for the HVAC system.
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News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions
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alias8703
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Boooo HVAC is far less exciting than a lift!
I mentioned them as a joke that a totally false and outlandish rumor was actually happening (which it isn't).
Hatbox Ghostbuster
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Obviously take this with a grain of salt, but I grabbed this from a MovieWeb Article:
"Star Wars fans who've been keeping up with rumors and other bits of minutia on the Internet know that the structure seen in the first Last Jedi teaser is a Force Tree. This is where some of the old Jedi literature is kept. Disney's Star Wars Land is getting its own Force Tree that adults can browse while kids climb on it. Inside will be a wealth of Jedi knowledge, the kind of which Luke and the Porgs protect on Ahch-To. More importantly, as guests make their way through this hollowed out tree, they will hear the disembodied voices of Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Yoda.
"Star Wars fans who've been keeping up with rumors and other bits of minutia on the Internet know that the structure seen in the first Last Jedi teaser is a Force Tree. This is where some of the old Jedi literature is kept. Disney's Star Wars Land is getting its own Force Tree that adults can browse while kids climb on it. Inside will be a wealth of Jedi knowledge, the kind of which Luke and the Porgs protect on Ahch-To. More importantly, as guests make their way through this hollowed out tree, they will hear the disembodied voices of Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Yoda.
Ismael Flores
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if rumors are true about the possibility of toontown changing i think that maybe they should have considered another connection from that northern point into SWGE or the frontier land passage. with the latest aerial picture i do see one possibility that could be easily modified and would just require the removal of the fantasy land theater and a possible relocation.
First relocate the mickey and Minnie houses to the eastern side of toontown and take advantage of the unused trolley barn as well. close off the main access pathway into toontown and relocate it on the other side of where the toontown station is. the new toontown would consist of the area from the gas station to roger rabbit. Everything west of that would be removed.
Once that is done the open space can be used to replicate the Mickey and Minnie run away ride. so that it could stay open during fireworks the entrance would be located south of the train tracks with a queue and themed area. the rest of toontown can close for fireworks if needed but they would still have the ride for capacity.
The wonder bra theater would be removed and the area used for dining and other options. A new pathway would be built so that it connected to the new pathway built just past the dirt berm for SWGE.
If they insist of adding frozen then instead of the Mickey ride it would be frozen and the area where the Fantasyland theater can be all turned into Arrendale with a themed eatery and stores and lots of green space.
i was bored so did a quick overlay on google map see above
vancee
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Ismael Flores
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sorry i saved it down to much. it pretty much says what i wrote above.I can't read the text
Only reason i did that is because of the discusssion about a possible expansion pad in SWGE. It seems that if they are going to keep those building for backstage infrastructure they can still fit a pretty large show building by just using the west end of toontown. I left goofy bounce house in the piece but in theory they can also remove that and push the new toontown entrance east a bit. They can also move the toontown station east and place it closer to where the existing underpass for toontown is.
I measure the western area and they can pretty much fit an IASW size building there and add a capacity to the area and still keep roger rabbit. I could see a nice large show building in that area and a nice Arrendale themed facade on the south side of the train tracks. Imagine the IASW facade themed to Arrendale with the track cutting thru it
Old Mouseketeer
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But a lot of those changes are things they are just not going to do. They involve infrastructure changes that are not justified. I wrote far upthread about all the reasons that relocating Mickey and Minnie's houses was extremely impractical and unlikely. I love blue sky conjecture as much as anyone--I've been doing it since before many of you were born. But so much of this is going so far out on a limb it's just going to crash with you on it.
FL Theater is a profit center because of Disney Performing Arts three days a week and some mornings in peak periods. Remove FLT and what are you going to replace that with? You have massive expansion real estate in FL/TL from Small World Mall SE to Launch Bay. I don't see them trashing Toontown or FLT until they reclaim some or all of this space.
I don't mean to be harsh--I don't have a crystal ball. But I really don't see FLT, TT, or the phantom expansion pad on the east end of SWGE as the most likely candidates for future projects on the NE side of DL Park.
TP2000
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I really appreciate your insight and perspective!
But honestly, we're talking about a 25 year old meet n' greet in a small land that has devolved quite a bit in the last 15 years. Small ball stuff, really.
And now it's 2017 and we are dealing with a company that just rerouted the Disneyland Railroad and rebuilt the Rivers of America, plus demolished and moved off property a whole bunch of 60 year old infrastructure that would have been considered untouchable and vitally important and/or too expensive to move by many previous executive teams.
For gosh sakes, Disneyland now trucks in horses every day from Corona just to keep the streetcars running for a few hours a day! That type of expense and radical operations thinking would have been unheard of until a few years ago.
If TDA and Burbank decide a big Frozen E Ticket or a new Mickey dark ride should replace Meet Mickey and Gadget's Go Coaster and two cheap pre-fab support buildings, it would be within the realm of possibility. Just ask the horses commuting to Disneyland on the 91 freeway every day.
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I have to agree. With the Hyperion next door, and audiences growing increasingly more sophisticated, TFT just stands out more and more like the 80s era unthemed generic theme park stage venue that it is. Like the petting zoo behind BTMRR I expect it to bite the dust sooner rather than later.
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I don't know, Toontown and Wonderbra were quite far into the Blue Sky chopping block for the better part of a year before SW:GE shifted behind RoA.
I think you undersell how close it has already been to leaving once already. If they've thought that long about removing it, the pendulum will eventually swing back and they'll think on it again. Unless there is some massive hurdle they discovered, everything you've identified are pretty insignificant issues.
I DO think the theatre will re-materialize, just in a more permanent indoor venue within the fireworks fallout zone. The wonderbra is prime real estate that sits unused at night currently. It would be better placed behind the berm. Obviously the houses wouldn't be relocated, just the characters. There is nothing quintessential about those locations compared to every other castle park.
There are always hints of the current thought process at international parks. I think Tokyo chopping up the speedway and their outdoor tomorrowland theatre for B&TB and a FL indoor theatre is an idea they'll eventually reuse. But, since I said that... you can certainly make a good argument that Tokyo spared their ToonTown and went straight for the Autotopia...
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NobodyElse
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And don't forget, it's the repurposed former Videopolis. They've gotten plenty of mileage out of it.
Old Mouseketeer
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Bravo! Your conjecture is absolutely as viable as my own. I can't negate your reasoning. I simply prefer my own priorities for expansion and I have no basis to claim that my predictions or preferences are superior to your own or anyone else's.
But I still like mine better. LOL
Hey, I bet my History Prof that the 1976 election would be former TX Gov. John Connelly vs. Sen. Ted Kennedy. Ooopsie!
TP2000
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Seven short years after Chappaquiddick?!? I would've taken that bet and asked you to double it.
Ismael Flores
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May be true but a couple years ago nobody ever considered that Disney would go thru the huge expense of taking out most of their backstage infrastructure and go thru expense of moving railroad tracks as well as removing a profitable eatery to build a 14 acre land. No one would have imagined that they would remove two profit making stores in adventureland to just add seating either.
All this while tomorrowland and the NE area of the park was prime candidate for expansion.
Let not get into even more un heard of ideas like going they the expense of removing a perfectly detailed bugsland just to retheme it to Marvel yet that is what is being proposed.
Toontown was once on the chopping block and there is no reason why it wouldn't be again. TDA is not very fond of that la d which is a huge cost in maintenance and doesn't operate a full day.
As for the fantasy theater, it uses more real estate than it needs and is also an area that could bring in more profit than what it takes.
TDA and Burbank is desperately looking for areas to expand and increase capacity. A new highly themed eatery and shopping would be more profitable than a theater that gets used occasionally for Disney performing arts. Not only that but it would also help with capacity more than what the theater is doing now which runs half full partial of the day with limited shows. Shows that are costly to produce and can't run all day.
The resort has plenty of venues for that kind of stuff including theater complexes in DCA as well as the Magic eye theater in tomorrowland. Relocating those yearly events would not be difficult
So although sometimes we like to blue sky ideas or not, anything is possible. You would be surprised if you knew where they got some simple ideas like turning the unused expanded muppet queue Into a seating area for award wieners or other small changes that pop out of nowhere.
As the park gets busier and busier and land gets more scarce I'm sure they would look at areas that can provide better use than temporary venues that can be rented out. Whatever money they get from that can be easily be made with other offerings
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Ismael Flores
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I wonder how difficult it would be to add a roof over the eastern side of tooontown?
In the long run they might end up saving some money in maintenance costs and be able to keep it open at night
Could you also imagine the eastern side enclosed and then re-imagined so that they included digital mapping and lighting to really make the smaller land come alive. Make it feel like you really area in a too world.
In the long run they might end up saving some money in maintenance costs and be able to keep it open at night
Could you also imagine the eastern side enclosed and then re-imagined so that they included digital mapping and lighting to really make the smaller land come alive. Make it feel like you really area in a too world.
I know everyone saw this from the D23 presentation, but I wanted to highlight the actual footage from Disney (and not someone's periscope footage of the footage).
I somehow made a 1 minute video last 20 with the number of times I paused and played.
Points for anyone who can spot the nods to some of Disney's other recent projects from this decade. I definitely noticed two of them.
Old Mouseketeer
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Seven short years after Chappaquiddick?!? I would've taken that bet and asked you to double it.
And you would have been more astute than I. The irony is that same year I made the most prescient political prognostication (alliteration--HAH!) of my life. In my first Presidential Election I said that I would probably never again have a choice between two such honorable men (Ford and Carter). I would give anything to be wrong about that, but sadly, no.
