News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

TP2000

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If I hear a Disney exec say the word "immersive" one more time, I'm going to lose it. That's why I had to stop watching all those videos from D23 presentations.

I to am fascinated to see how they pull off this interactive thing with the front-line, minimum-wage CM's. It's likely going to be something the innocent CM's try to do for the first summer, and then when they have their fifth cranky tourist of the day go off on them because the Melania Falcon ride didn't go very well because little Jimmy didn't push the buttons correctly, they'll give up.

Six months after opening, the Melania Falcon ride operators and the kids working the Galaxy's Edge snack bar are going to go back to the usual mediocre-yet-inoffensive service level that Disneyland CM's have perfected over the last 15 years since the 20th century standards fell.

"You want Space Fries with that bro?" :rolleyes:
 
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britain

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According to IMDB he was a concept artist on the Force Awakens and a production designer on Rogue One. He had nothing to do with SWGE or the Last Jedi.

Well - considering that he was on the panel at Star Wars Celebration talking about working with Imagineering on SW:GE, I'd say IMDB needs some updating.
 

sedati

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The attitude about interactivity here is reminding me of how some took to the opening of Midway Mania. I recall a few (mostly micechatters) who were so appalled by the idea that they would have to participate physically and that the level of enjoyment was mainly put on them, that they simply crossed their arms and rode as they would any dark ride and decried it as a miserable failure.
 

JoFu

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we were really unsure on the magic band thing this past December for our wdw trip, but I tell you what, they are awesome. I don't like that they're changing them to a handheld puck here soon tho.
I love Magic Bands and especially when it comes to the A Pirates Adventure game in Adventureland and that I already wear a watch I'm a big fan of the removable icon and the Magic Keepers.
 

Phroobar

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I love Magic Bands and especially when it comes to the A Pirates Adventure game in Adventureland and that I already wear a watch I'm a big fan of the removable icon and the Magic Keepers.
I like the concept of the Magic Band but it is overkill. I think they could easily get away with a paper wrist band with a RF chip in it as your ticket. It would be super cheap for Disney to do instead of making guests pay for a super expensive rubber wrist band. Everyone could benefit from it and you don't need a smart phone that gets wet.

The Great Wolf Lodge uses paper wrist bands to open your hotel room and pay for things. It's great not having to worry about your wallet / room key disappearing while you are in the waterpark.

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Old Mouseketeer

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If I hear a Disney exec say the word "immersive" one more time, I'm going to lose it. That's why I had to stop watching all those videos from D23 presentations.

I to am fascinated to see how they pull off this interactive thing with the front-line, minimum-wage CM's. It's likely going to be something the innocent CM's try to do for the first summer, and then when they have their fifth cranky tourist of the day go off on them because the Melania Falcon ride didn't go very well because little Jimmy didn't push the buttons correctly, they'll give up.

Six months after opening the Melania Falcon ride operators and the kids working the Galaxy's Edge snack bar are going to go back to the usual mediocre-yet-inoffensive service level that Disneyland CM's have perfected over the last 15 years since the 20th century standards fell.

"You want Space Fries with that bro?" :rolleyes:

Brilliantly said. The classic comment I heard from a front-line CM several years ago was their treatment by management was "all stick and no carrot". The idea is that there is no incentive to actually rise to the level of excellence that management constantly exhorts the minions towards. But put a toe out of line and the hammer comes down. Even more discouraging, management sets the desired level of adequate results and doesn't reward (or even want) anything better than that. Indeed, this is what bottom-level managers are given by higher-ups.

Mind you, there will probably be something like a special day of training/orientation/indoctrination for all on-stage CMs in SWGE. Mary Niven LOVES this stuff. They're still doing the "My California Story" training for all DCA CMs that she started before the grand reopening. The problem is that expecting Streetmosphere-level immersion from minimum wage CMs is completely unreasonable and unrealistic. What remains to be seen is whether servers at the Cantina and elsewhere will be classified (and compensated) as entertainers as they are/were at Trader Sam's and the old ABC Soap Opera Bistro.
 

Phroobar

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Brilliantly said. The classic comment I heard from a front-line CM several years ago was their treatment by management was "all stick and no carrot". The idea is that there is no incentive to actually rise to the level of excellence that management constantly exhorts the minions towards. But put a toe out of line and the hammer comes down. Even more discouraging, management sets the desired level of adequate results and doesn't reward (or even want) anything better than that. Indeed, this is what bottom-level managers are given by higher-ups.

Mind you, there will probably be something like a special day of training/orientation/indoctrination for all on-stage CMs in SWGE. Mary Niven LOVES this stuff. They're still doing the "My California Story" training for all DCA CMs that she started before the grand reopening. The problem is that expecting Streetmosphere-level immersion from minimum wage CMs is completely unreasonable and unrealistic. What remains to be seen is whether servers at the Cantina and elsewhere will be classified (and compensated) as entertainers as they are/were at Trader Sam's and the old ABC Soap Opera Bistro.
Unless your a Star Wars geek that is working as a cast member in SWGE, management will never get CMs to act the part unless they are Maynard clones.
 

rle4lunch

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I like the concept of the Magic Band but it is overkill. I think they could easily get away with a paper wrist band with a RF chip in it as your ticket. It would be super cheap for Disney to do instead of making guests pay for a super expensive rubber wrist band. Everyone could benefit from it and you don't need a smart phone that gets wet.

The Great Wolf Lodge uses paper wrist bands to open your hotel room and pay for things. It's great not having to worry about your wallet / room key disappearing while you are in the waterpark.

IMG_2327-1024x768.jpg

Disney has had a version of the magicband thing all the way back into the 1980's. I remember going as a kid and having a special room key that I could use anywhere on property that was hooked to my parent's amex card. unfortunately, my brother and I's daily spending limit was capped at $1,000, so I was unimpressed. ;)

In actuality, I think my brother and I spent a collective $14 for arcade money and hot dogs.
 

Phroobar

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If everyone had the paper wrist bands, an actor could hold a "scanning device" ie iphone to search out the wrist band and yell at you for damaging the Falcon. AA robots could scan the wristband and look up the response to make on that person's performance on the ride or suggest they buy the collectable cup.
 

180º

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If I hear a Disney exec say the word "immersive" one more time, I'm going to lose it.
Me too. Actually, I lost it around 2013. Every "immersive" since then has just been a bonus.

Of course, the really immersive way that Imagineers and Disney PR people talk is really just such a wonderful way to immerse our guests and ask them– or rather, INVITE them (because if you just want to relax, you can)– into these truly rich and immersive worlds that really just inspire and really just are a testament to the really just immersive magic that only Disney can do.
 

Disney Analyst

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If everyone had the paper wrist bands, an actor could hold a "scanning device" ie iphone to search out the wrist band and yell at you for damaging the Falcon. AA robots could scan the wristband and look up the response to make on that person's performance on the ride or suggest they buy the collectable cup.

I mean realistically, with RFID all you would need to do is enter a room and all that information could be transmitted instantly.
 

George Lucas on a Bench

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Wasn't it Universal that popularized the word 'immersive' for theme park design around 1999?

Also, if this looks like the new Star Wars movies, I wouldn't know. To me, it looks like Naboo crossed with Mos Espa. Nothing like the banal locales from Episode VII (the only one I watched) that I would never want a theme park set in. There is a certain charm to the model that the more Lord of the Rings-esque artwork from the last con was totally lacking. I'll give it that.
 

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