News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

Kman101

Kman101

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BrianLo said:
Animal Kingdom is a stunning jewel, easily the best thematically cohesive park in the US. I believe I can use my unholy original thread propeiter status to cement this as fact and make everyone feel a little bit better that yes there are still wonderful things in the swamps and fortunately more eventually coming.

However, I'll log my disapproval that I would have liked to see them adapt something slightly different in the Star Wars universe for DHS... that's only my privileged clone-hating snobbery.

It definitely doesn't change the fact that this will be a stunning land on both coasts and *if* there is a discrepancy it will be no where near as bad as Potter on the East Coast versus West. Hey... there is something truly way better in the Swamps. Universal.
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Animal Kingdom is by far my favorite of the WDW parks. It's very well done. But I've expressed that love so you probably know that. I was being a bit sarcastic with my post about "everything's done awful". I don't really believe that stance. I think WDW has a lot of work to do but there's quite a bit that is enjoyable. I wouldn't keep going if there weren't. But sometimes some seem to hold their nose up a bit in the air about the parks in Florida and I don't think it's fair. IMO of course.
 
dweezil78

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TP2000 said:
Meanwhile, at DHS, they are going to have this literally a few yards from one of the two entry tunnels to Star Wars Land. At least it's themed to aliens from another planet, just like Star Wars?
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Not saying these are the greatest rides ever created... but we have the Tea Cups and Dumbo within pretty close proximity to Star Wars land here. Big whoop.
 
TP2000

TP2000

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dweezil78 said:
Not saying these are the greatest rides ever created... but we have the Tea Cups and Dumbo within pretty close proximity to Star Wars land here. Big whoop.
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Sure, Disneyland's Fantasyland is just beyond the Big Thunder Trail.

But in the spatial relation between the two parks, the new Buzz Lightyear Alien Space Ranger Spin (or whatever this Mater's clone is called) is literally steps away from the entry tunnel to Star Wars Land at DHS.

At Disneyland the Big Thunder Trail has already created a nice buffer and expansion of Frontierland, and that rerouted Disneyland Railroad above it is Imagineering at its finest. What we haven't seen yet is the 50+ yards of walkway that branches off the Big Thunder Trail that leads to two big tunnels that lead to Star Wars Land. I don't think we can appreciate yet how separated and removed from the rest of the park Disneyland's Star Wars Land will be.

But at DHS, the entry tunnels appear to slam right up against the Streets of America in the Area That Used To Be A Tram Tour and Buzz Lightyear's Super Silly Spin Ride in Toy Story Land.

For whatever reason, it all seems so much more planned and purposeful in Disneyland. But at DHS, it seems shoehorned and compacted. Which is so hysterically ironic since WDW has the "blessing of size" that they too often don't seem capable of taking advantage of.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

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TP2000 said:
For whatever reason, it all seems so much more planned and purposeful in Disneyland. But at DHS, it seems shoehorned and compacted. Which is so hysterically ironic since WDW has the "blessing of size" that they too often don't seem capable of taking advantage of.
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The scales will fall on the East Side when DHS gets the Star Wars Resort. *There's* your blessing of size! :)
 
Phroobar

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TP2000 said:
And yet, where will that go? It can't be in DHS, much less extend those walkways, that's for sure.

I can't wait to hear what they announce at D23 in two weeks! I hope they can answer some of these questions.
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The Star Wars hotel is suppose to go on the other side of the toll booth area directly behind SWL. This is far right on the picture. I assume there will be a bridge to the new Star Wars entrance.

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Little Green Men

Little Green Men

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TP2000 said:
Sure, Disneyland's Fantasyland is just beyond the Big Thunder Trail.

But in the spatial relation between the two parks, the new Buzz Lightyear Alien Space Ranger Spin (or whatever this Mater's clone is called) is literally steps away from the entry tunnel to Star Wars Land at DHS.

At Disneyland the Big Thunder Trail has already created a nice buffer and expansion of Frontierland, and that rerouted Disneyland Railroad above it is Imagineering at its finest. What we haven't seen yet is the 50+ yards of walkway that branches off the Big Thunder Trail that leads to two big tunnels that lead to Star Wars Land. I don't think we can appreciate yet how separated and removed from the rest of the park Disneyland's Star Wars Land will be.

But at DHS, the entry tunnels appear to slam right up against the Streets of America in the Area That Used To Be A Tram Tour and Buzz Lightyear's Super Silly Spin Ride in Toy Story Land.

For whatever reason, it all seems so much more planned and purposeful in Disneyland. But at DHS, it seems shoehorned and compacted. Which is so hysterically ironic since WDW has the "blessing of size" that they too often don't seem capable of taking advantage of.
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The walkways are supposed to not go straight through so you can't see what's on the other side without a grand reveal
 
TP2000

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GrandCanyonConcourse said:
The walkways are supposed to not go straight through so you can't see what's on the other side without a grand reveal
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Yes, I'm sure there will be a dogleg curve to the walkways on both coasts. The "big reveal" will be important to the placemaking for this unique land. But the walkways leading to the tunnels, with dogleg angles and landscaped berms, seem to be much longer and purposeful at Disneyland's version. At DHS both Toy Story Land and Streets of America butt up right against the Star Wars property, with the Alien Saucer Spin Ride in Toy Story Land seemingly very close to the Star Wars entry.

Here's the latest from Sunday afternoon at Disneyland, where all the construction crews apparently are getting a holiday weekend off.
 
TP2000

TP2000

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dweezil78 said:
Not saying these are the greatest rides ever created... but we have the Tea Cups and Dumbo within pretty close proximity to Star Wars land here. Big whoop.
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I just walked the reopened and re-Imagineered Big Thunder Trail for the first time this afternoon. For all the attention we pay to Big Thunder Mountain and its proximity to Star Wars Land, it's actually quite a long walk from the entry portals to the new land.

What is much closer is Fantasyland; particularly Casey Jr. Circus Train and Pinocchio's Daring Journey, which is only about 50 yards from the branched off pathway from Big Thunder Trail that leads to the easternmost entry portal to Star Wars Land.

My point was not what themes will be close to the entry portals, but how far away those themes are. At Disneyland they appear to be a 100+ yard walk from the entry tunnels. But at DHS, especially with the Alien Spinner Ride Mater's Clone thing, it appears to be 50 yards or less away from the entry tunnel to Star Wars Land.

The Streets of America is so close to Star Wars Land that some folks are thinking they may theme a facade to a big city movie palace with Star Wars on the marquee and use that as the entry portal to the new land.

After walking the Big Thunder Trail today, Star Wars Land at Disneyland is quite removed from the rest of the park and its competing themes. In fact, it appears to be the most physically removed land in any Disney theme park I've ever visited.
 
britain

britain

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TP2000 said:
After walking the Big Thunder Trail today, Star Wars Land at Disneyland is quite removed from the rest of the park and its competing themes.
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I see your point, but those paths are still technically Frontierland, butting up right against SWL. It's not like you're in "No-Theme-Zone" as you make your way to SWL. I think the issue is Frontierland offers better transitions than DHS.

TP2000 said:
In fact, it appears to be the most physically removed land in any Disney theme park I've ever visited.
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Which is rather ironic considering that Disneyland excels at having one theme stepping on the toes of its neighboring themes. Again, I cite this excellent article: http://passport2dreams.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-awkward-transitions-of-disneyland.html
 
No Name

No Name

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TP2000 said:
Agreed. I had read in another thread that the rumor was that for DHS you would walk along the Streets of America (which are rather pointless since the Tram Tour was closed) and then you find a big old movie theater with Star Wars on the marquee; you walk under the marquee and into the theater facade and enter a tunnel that puts you into Star Wars Land.

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That's at least a clever idea, and I think the only way you could get from the Tram Tour Streets of America fake facades and into Star Wars Land while making it seem on purpose. While the movie theater facade is clever and I hope they pull that off, I think I'll take Disneyland's forested trails instead.
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DisneyIrishGuy said:
So you are quite literally walking into a movie. I guess that takes the whole concept of the Studios Theme Park to a whole new level.
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I don't know how that rumor began, but Martin said it isn't true. The entrances will be largely the same as the Disneyland ones.

And by the way, the Streets of America are almost all gone. There's only one row of buildings left on the right side of the path alongside Muppet Courtyard.
 
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