JD80
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Was there any advertisements from Disney at all? Makes me wonder if they had any faith in it...
There were some really bad ones near when it opened.
Was there any advertisements from Disney at all? Makes me wonder if they had any faith in it...
From recorded statements by the Chairman of DPEP.
You guys are really working hard today at crowing that other people are dumb and wrong for liking something you didn't do and are not very knowledgeable about. Certainly it's not every group, but many made lasting friendships on vacation and I know of a few who have CSL tattoos. This discussion is going nowhere, as usual. I'm just hanging around to occasionally counter misinformation and the steady supply of red herrings.
Let's not forget about Harmonious...how much did that show cost?Oh, the same person ultimately responsible explaining the boondoggle and the 100's of millions of dollars they lost on it? And you also realize how Disney surveys are reported, right, and can be twisted any way one wants really, especially in situations like this. I'm sorry, you'll have to forgive my extreme skepticism, but I have been around this company an awful long time and I have a very difficult time believing that this has higher guest satisfaction ratings than anything ever.
In any case, I am genuinely glad that you made some new friends. That said - while I'm sure there are a few dozen, or perhaps even a few hundred people out there who were such rabid fans that they get tattoos of it, or, as someone claimed earlier in this thread, "I went a bunch of times, I just wish I went more to support it!", that's great and all - but the experience has been endlessly detailed, everyone knows and can see exactly what was offered. And by just about all quantifiable aspects, it was severely underwhelming.
This revisionist idea that has taken hold of some folks that this was just some misunderstood, or mis-marketed masterpiece is just objectively false based on all of the ample available evidence. That doesn't mean that there weren't people who somehow enjoyed it - just that the vast majority of people in position to go (either because they could afford it and they like new things at Disney, or from the huge global fanbase of Star Wars fans who spend huge amounts of money on Star Wars products) took a look at the final result and had no interest in it whatsoever.
Regardless, it was a huge blow to the company, and consumers voted with their wallets. It is very clearly the worst failure in Disney theme park history. Superstar Limo and Rocket Rods are breathing a huge sigh of relief these days.
It’s a mass audience amusement park…an underdeveloped one - actually - and continues to be operated that way. Because it need ls to be.they weren't fighting for lightning lane access.. or dining access... and have their own unique experiences in the park. That's the special access.
…if you want to relive it…buy a Disney singalong from about 1999 and you’ll get the same showI really enjoyed Harmonious. It was an awesome show.
and a few lawn sprinklers…if you want to relive it…buy a Disney singalong from about 1999 and you’ll get the same show
As long as you get some sparklers…of course![]()
First, nobody knows how much they lost on this. We know how much early depreciation they took relative to the 30 years that nobody thought it would remain open. Yes it's his job to put things in a positive light, but they would have no reason to lie and say it got amazing GSATs if it did not. There is nothing to gain for by a lie that could easily be disproven, so I would take him at his word.Oh, the same person ultimately responsible explaining the boondoggle and the 100's of millions of dollars they lost on it? And you also realize how Disney surveys are reported, right, and can be twisted any way one wants really, especially in situations like this. I'm sorry, you'll have to forgive my extreme skepticism, but I have been around this company an awful long time and I have a very difficult time believing that this has higher guest satisfaction ratings than anything ever.
In any case, I am genuinely glad that you made some new friends. That said - while I'm sure there are a few dozen, or perhaps even a few hundred people out there who were such rabid fans that they get tattoos of it, or, as someone claimed earlier in this thread, "I went a bunch of times, I just wish I went more to support it!", that's great and all - but the experience has been endlessly detailed, everyone knows and can see exactly what was offered. And by just about all quantifiable aspects, it was severely underwhelming.
This revisionist idea that has taken hold of some folks that this was just some misunderstood, or mis-marketed masterpiece is just objectively false based on all of the ample available evidence. That doesn't mean that there weren't people who somehow enjoyed it - just that the vast majority of people in position to go (either because they could afford it and they like new things at Disney, or from the huge global fanbase of Star Wars fans who spend huge amounts of money on Star Wars products) took a look at the final result and had no interest in it whatsoever.
Regardless, it was a huge blow to the company, and consumers voted with their wallets. It is very clearly the worst failure in Disney theme park history. Superstar Limo and Rocket Rods are breathing a huge sigh of relief these days.
Damn!!!
We both forgot the Tacos...Damn!!!
I hate it when I get an “incomplete” on a great gag![]()
Is see the defense lining up for another goal line stand on this one…Let's not forget about Harmonious...how much did that show cost?
Because it is based on the biggest IP of all time that makes hundreds of millions of dollars a year in merchandise sales alone, that tens of thousands of people fly across the world to attend conventions for, and had an unprecedented "TAKE MY MONEY!" reaction when first announced, until everyone saw what it actually was and nobody went which is why it closed so quickly.But how can you say the vast majority of people in a position to go had no interest.
I posted further back in this thread that my wife and I are getting six nights and Sandals South Beach in Jamaica for $6,000.Honestly, it isn’t even that overpriced considering it’s all inclusive.
Yeah…sounds great…except for Jamaica. Not a fan…I posted further back in this thread that my wife and I are getting six nights and Sandals South Beach in Jamaica for $6,000.
That includes air, limitless drinks, about 5 restaurants, a couple of pools one with a swim up bar, watersports, two miles of beach...
That is a compelling point...I posted further back in this thread that my wife and I are getting six nights and Sandals South Beach in Jamaica for $6,000.
That includes air, limitless drinks, about 5 restaurants, a couple of pools one with a swim up bar, watersports, two miles of beach...
I'd have been good with a deregulated freight ship if a) it actually looked like one, and b) looked like it belonged to the correct franchise.not deregulated freight ship...
Too expensive for the market does not equal bad.
Every YouTube I’ve watched has raved about how much fun it was, all while saying it’s too expensive.
Not sure why people can’t differentiate between the two.
Bugatti loses money every year, that doesn’t make the cars bad, it just shows there isn’t a large market for multi million dollar cars.
But beyond that…”everyone” loved it suspect:
1. We don’t know how many people that actually is? Not many…it closed almost as it opened and was far from booked solid. What are we talking…10,000? If that? For a place that gets 50,000,000 gate clicks a year?
What was the total occupancy of that thing? 100 rooms? So like 500 total capacity?
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