News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021

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[yensidtlaw1969]

it’s failing. So they were Distinctly wrong.
…it’s a results based business

But is it failing because they were so wrong conceptually? Or because the execution was geniunely awful?

So much of the Star Cruiser is under-designed and cheaply built, save a few cool moments, and they decided to charge guests an arm and a leg for it. As a result the public perception is pretty negative.

I feel like if they'd pushed this exact concept to the limit and really developed a rich, dimensional, unparalleled Star Wars experience at a slightly lower price point things would be totally different. Heck, you can work with word of mouth that admits it's expensive, so long as they follow that up with "but it's worth every penny". That's decidedly not happening with the Star Cruiser, but I think it's less because the concept was flawed and more because they didn't actually deliver on that concept.

 

[UNCgolf]

But is it failing because they were so wrong conceptually? Or because the execution was geniunely awful?

So much of the Star Cruiser is under-designed and cheaply built, save a few cool moments, and they decided to charge guests an arm and a leg for it. As a result the public perception is pretty negative.

I feel like if they'd pushed this exact concept to the limit and really developed a rich, dimensional, unparalleled Star Wars experience at a slightly lower price point things would be totally different. Heck, you can work with word of mouth that admits it's expensive, so long as they follow that up with "but it's worth every penny". That's decidedly not happening with the Star Cruiser, but I think it's less because the concept was flawed and more because they didn't actually deliver on that concept.

I'm not sure that's true. Nearly everything I've read from people who have actually been to it has been wildly positive. Even on this forum several people have said they'd love to go back and do it again if they could afford to.

It seems like the price point is a problem because it's so expensive (there really aren't that many families who can afford to spend $5k on two nights); not because the experience itself is lacking.

I personally don't think the interior looks good at all in photos, and it's not an experience I'm interested in, but I don't think we can just assume they didn't develop a great concept when word of mouth seems to say otherwise.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

But is it failing because they were so wrong conceptually? Or because the execution was geniunely awful?

So much of the Star Cruiser is under-designed and cheaply built, save a few cool moments, and they decided to charge guests an arm and a leg for it. As a result the public perception is pretty negative.

I feel like if they'd pushed this exact concept to the limit and really developed a rich, dimensional, unparalleled Star Wars experience at a slightly lower price point things would be totally different. Heck, you can work with word of mouth that admits it's expensive, so long as they follow that up with "but it's worth every penny". That's decidedly not happening with the Star Cruiser, but I think it's less because the concept was flawed and more because they didn't actually deliver on that concept.

Yes…


…that’s all I got

 

[GimpYancIent]

"Demand" my foot. A catch word that has become overused. A specific, targeted, group of fans offered a 30% discount for a pricey experience for a limited time frame. In the category of an exclusive offer to an exclusive group. I would like to see a 30% reduction (discount if that's the preferred term) for everyone for every scheduled cruise. Then there will be an actual reflection of "Demand".

 

[MisterPenguin]

"Demand" my foot. A catch word that has become overused. A specific, targeted, group of fans offered a 30% discount for a pricey experience for a limited time frame. In the category of an exclusive offer to an exclusive group. I would like to see a 30% reduction (discount if that's the preferred term) for everyone for every scheduled cruise. Then there will be an actual reflection of "Demand".

The "demand" is among that subgroup. It's clear by context that Scott was referring to demand within that subgroup at that price.

 

[Hawg G]

So 30% pulls in those who aren’t afraid to spend lots of money at Disney.well, 100 of them at least.

 

[Hawg G]

I'm not sure that's true. Nearly everything I've read from people who have actually been to it has been wildly positive. Even on this forum several people have said they'd love to go back and do it again if they could afford to.

It seems like the price point is a problem because it's so expensive (there really aren't that many families who can afford to spend $5k on two nights); not because the experience itself is lacking.

I personally don't think the interior looks good at all in photos, and it's not an experience I'm interested in, but I don't think we can just assume they didn't develop a great concept when word of mouth seems to say otherwise.

Most folks who buy a Land Rover say they are great.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Well, Disney knows that if they need to fill a scheduled cruise what they need to do so.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

So 30% pulls in those who aren’t afraid to spend lots of money at Disney.well, 100 of them at least.

A big part of the miscalculation here…other than being absolutely clueless why Star Wars was ever popular…is that they misinterpreted a segment of their customer base that actually enjoys being overcharged and went a bridge too far

…I have a hunch what they “misinterpreted” in particular that lead them down the road to

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Well, Disney knows that if they need to fill a scheduled cruise what they need to do so.

…ummm…isn’t the the whole issue is they CAN’T fill them?

 

[corran horn]

A big part of the miscalculation here…other than being absolutely clueless why Star Wars was ever popular…

Star Wars is certainly more popular now than it was in the 90s and arguably post-prequels.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Star Wars is certainly more popular now than it was in the 90s and arguably post-prequels.

Because of the changes in media/product/entertainment delivery and speed.

That isn’t what I’m talking about.

I’m talking about “resonance”. That’s what drove the franchise and lined the coffers.

I haven’t watched too closely…but Weren’t there reports of viewership falling on Mando?

What a fickle age we live in…and it’s not good for business

It’s more widely distributed…not “more popular”

But we can disagree. You’re never gonna believe they cacked it up…

But your opinion is valid. You’re not alone. There are at least 6 other people here that say Disney has done a good job with Star Wars

 

[corran horn]

I’m talking about “resonance”. That’s what drove the franchise and lined the coffers.

Well, I don't know what'll resonate with my kids in 45 years. I hope I'm alive to know then.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Well, I don't know what'll resonate with my kids in 45 years. I hope I'm alive to know then.

Well I can only tell you what worked the first time…

 

[note2001]

Well I can only tell you what worked the first time…


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"So what I told you was true, from a certain point of view" - Obi Wan

I KNEW iT! StarCruiser is being killed by it's evil self programming, only to be reincarnated as an Empire driven ship.

It's not that the ship isn't being filled, it's that the people attending are being assimilated and turned into borg and cybermen

.... uh... I may have my sci fi mixed up. What was in that coffee?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

"So what I told you was true, from a certain point of view" - Obi Wan

I KNEW iT! StarCruiser is being killed by it's evil self programming, only to be reincarnated as an Empire driven ship.

It's not that the ship isn't being filled, it's that the people attending are being assimilated and turned into borg and cybermen

.... uh... I may have my sci fi mixed up. What was in that coffee?

Well now you know too much…

…which means you’ll have to be eliminated

 

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Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser now available with 30 percent discount for Walt Disney World Annual Passholders​

Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser now available with 30 percent discount for Walt Disney World Annual Passholders

Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser now available with 30 percent discount for Walt Disney World Annual Passholders

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[BaconPancakes]

I'm not sure that's true. Nearly everything I've read from people who have actually been to it has been wildly positive. Even on this forum several people have said they'd love to go back and do it again if they could afford to.

It seems like the price point is a problem because it's so expensive (there really aren't that many families who can afford to spend $5k on two nights); not because the experience itself is lacking.

I personally don't think the interior looks good at all in photos, and it's not an experience I'm interested in, but I don't think we can just assume they didn't develop a great concept when word of mouth seems to say otherwise.

And those people were Disney "Influencers" who got to experience it free of charge.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

I'm not sure that's true. Nearly everything I've read from people who have actually been to it has been wildly positive. Even on this forum several people have said they'd love to go back and do it again if they could afford to.

It seems like the price point is a problem because it's so expensive (there really aren't that many families who can afford to spend $5k on two nights); not because the experience itself is lacking.

I personally don't think the interior looks good at all in photos, and it's not an experience I'm interested in, but I don't think we can just assume they didn't develop a great concept when word of mouth seems to say otherwise.

I think if you re-read my post you might see you're making my point for me.