News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021

GimpYancIent

Well-Known Member
Keeping some kind of occupancy for the Star Cruiser through 50% or more discounts for CM's is internal maneuvering that indicates an issue but not a critical problem, yet. When 50% + discounts begin to be offered to the general public, not Golden Oaks or Club 33 or any other exclusive group, but to all who may want to experience the cruiser then that will be a strong indicator the Galactic Star Cruiser is about to implode.
 

kingdead

Well-Known Member
Keeping some kind of occupancy for the Star Cruiser through 50% or more discounts for CM's is internal maneuvering that indicates an issue but not a critical problem, yet. When 50% + discounts begin to be offered to the general public, not Golden Oaks or Club 33 or any other exclusive group, but to all who may want to experience the cruiser then that will be a strong indicator the Galactic Star Cruiser is about to implode.
CMs aren't going to be able to afford it, though--ok, a few might with the power of the old credit card, but this isn't being opened up to employees in general. Thought so at first but I guess that would be too much?
 

Tha Realest

Well-Known Member
Seems like this can be a solution to two problems

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mmascari

Well-Known Member
‘Cost’ here is fuzzy. The operating cost for the cruise is already fixed. The food&bev cost per stateroom is minuscule in this scale…. So an empty stateroom is literally just a hole in customer spending. You can talk about the overhead cost divided by the number of staterooms as their ‘cost’ but it doesn’t really work here because you’re likely comparing filling empty rooms instead of comparing to non-discounted guests.
It's still a start. And, if we're comparing it to empty rooms, it still creates a question about if they voyage was going to lose, break even, or be profitable with that room empty.

Technically, they could sell one super luxury stateroom at $500,000 and then 99 rooms at $1. But, that's not really going to happen either.

I would assume someone at Disney did the math already to determine how much that fixed cost is, how many rooms they can be sure to sell (not all of them), and then did that exact math of cost divided by rooms sure they'll sell to get a price. Every room after that would be almost all profit then. Even that is probably too simple for the math.

The discount rate still gives us a clue that the current rate includes lots of margin. A margin that could be reduced if necessary to drive more sales. Not likely a 50% reduction, but if the price comes down 10% at some point, and then 10% more at another later time, that wouldn't be surprising and likely still provide plenty of profit margin.

Will it ever come down low enough to get the All Stars guest to stay there? Not likely. But, they sell a lot of Deluxe rooms, low enough to entice that crowd is certainly possible.
 

kingdead

Well-Known Member
I think you need to stop and think about why Disney would offer (and promote) this CM discount.
1. They genuinely in good faith think they're going to make more money off this than they would otherwise. Empty rooms, might as well fill some of them.
2. Discounts for CMs are a normal part of the resorts process and therefore they're just letting a scheduled discount go live.
3. This is actually meant as a negotiating tactic with labor.

Number three is the one that's doing my head in--you have a property that's well reviewed but publicly hampered by its very high price point and your move isn't to discount for the general public but discount it for your employees? Who are having a very public struggle over low wages and cost of living issues? Congratulations, you've just made your property into Marie Antoinette's palace. You have a few more customers and a lot more haters.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Technically, they could sell one super luxury stateroom at $500,000 and then 99 rooms at $1. But, that's not really going to happen either.

I would assume someone at Disney did the math already to determine how much that fixed cost is, how many rooms they can be sure to sell (not all of them), and then did that exact math of cost divided by rooms sure they'll sell to get a price. Every room after that would be almost all profit then. Even that is probably too simple for the math.
It's exactly that... basically they have to look at revenue per 'trip' and across the various bookings they have, determine if it hits the necessary margins. They already have variation of guests per room, stateroom types, an assumption of not-fully booked, etc.

I was just objecting to the mindset of "if they will offer it at this price, this is a window into their cost" -- No, it's more a look into just how low of a price they are willing to be seen for or associated with the product.

When faced with getting zero dollars for a room, or some amount of money for the room.. any money is a win for the company. So how do you regulate how cheap you will let that room go for? It's almost always thinking that is about protecting the perceived value of the product. Giving the room away for $100 is possible, but you wouldn't do it because it hurts your ability to charge more every other time. The threshold isn't cost (because the cost is already baked into running the rest of the place for the trip) - the threshold is price management.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Kind of difficult considering the CM resources needed to run the thing.
Which is exactly why they haven’t done it. Don’t worry, when they do - it will be college programmers with 2 days of training 😎

But even this is silly…

$2500 for two people. Yep…if there’s anything that says “cast member”…it’s that they have $1000 per day in discretionary spending 😂
 

Smiley/OCD

Well-Known Member
So are we still soaked in our own BS trying to spin this as being popular?

Cause it’s only gonna get worse.

Hate me if you wish 🤓
For those old enough to remember the Monday Night Football with Cosell, Gifford and Merideth…in blow out games, “Dandy” Don, after downing a few (or 4), would start singing the Willie Nelson song, “Turn out the lights, the party’s over”…it might be time for Willie to perform that song at Hollywood Studios…I know JUST the backdrop…
 

monothingie

Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
Premium Member
Which is exactly why they haven’t done it. Don’t worry, when they do - it will be college programmers with 2 days of training 😎

But even this is silly…

$2500 for two people. Yep…if there’s anything that says “cast member”…it’s that they have $1000 per day in discretionary spending 😂
I guess the nuclear option is just ditch the entire cruise concept and make it straight deluxe. Have the dining experience become a TS and QS be accessible via shuttle from the park. Problem solved.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I guess the nuclear option is just ditch the entire cruise concept and make it straight deluxe. Have the dining experience become a TS and QS be accessible via shuttle from the park. Problem solved.
There’s no facilities…the “best” thing they can do is repurpose it into an attraction like hogwarts express with something new in the shell…

But you KNOW the problem there
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Just build a new resort like POP or a mod that’s 100% themed to Star Wars…consistent sell out…
Well that would have made sense, wouldn’t it?

I think I threw that idea out once years ago…
You build 1000 Star Wars rooms next to 1000 tangled rooms…with themed bars and restaurants…

And you sell them for $300-400 to 100.0000% capacity to infinity and beyond

This REALLY isn’t this hard
 

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