Sirwalterraleigh
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News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021
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_caleb
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@Sirwalterraleigh, when you did the Starcruiser experience, did the other guests on your cruise seem to think it was worth the price?
Smiley/OCD
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With a giant “common” room in the center to LARP to your heart’s content…
It can even include a themed shuttle to the DHS GE entrance. And abus outside the front for other bus options for the rest of the resort.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Indeed…less overhead…”Freeform”
And look what they spent money on instead?
Well you’re overlooking that the land is very elaborately themed suckiness…and isn’t going to age well at all.
But that is fixable as well.
Not hard
And look what they spent money on instead?
Well you’re overlooking that the land is very elaborately themed suckiness…and isn’t going to age well at all.
Sure, but in the meantime it is an easy fix until bigger ones.
Theme aside. I can't believe the resort wanted to charge so much when so much of your two day experience is on meals(so yeah, you would pay for that anywhere) and going to a theme park land that day guests can experience too.
The left over things to explore in Starcruiser and see as mini shows, are not eequal to two days at a theme park level of entertainment for the majority, so if you divide the cost, why are you still left overpaying that much for it for your family?
If a two days at the StarCruiser cost as much as five 4 daye at the theme parks and hotel stay with Hoop Dee Doo and meals for my four person family...TDO were reaching hyping for pennies while dollars constantly fly over.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Frankly…I’m not dumb enough to fall for that price or your ploy…
Don’t with the “some people liked it + it’s “their opinion” = therefore it’s true”
That is the textbook defense of Disney mistakes and they make tons. Successes and Fails. We live in a world of averages.
Not the day to tangle with the bull…you’ll get the horns
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Smiley/OCD
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I love my girls with all my heart…but if they were huge SW fans, they would know I didn’t love them that much…lol
Exactly. For family situations, the single or two people of the family would have to convince the rest to go along with this on their FL timed Vacation.
This thing is not going to likely shut up and close, but what will continue to happen is Disney is goin to re-adjust their expectations with it.
_caleb
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Thanks for the warning. I’ll leave you to whatever strange self-gratification you get out of declaring over and over again that thing you’ve never done is an abject failure.Frankly…I’m not dumb enough to fall go that price or your ploy…
Don’t with the “some people liked it + it’s “their opinion” = therefore it’s true”
That is the textbook defense of Disney mistakes and they make tons. Successes and Fails. We live in a world of averages.
Not the day to tangle with the bull…you’ll get the horns
UNCgolf
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I don't see how turning it into a deluxe hotel would ever even be considered an option. It's just not set up for that and I can't imagine it happens.
It'd be easier to cut the price significantly and also cut the overall experience if they wanted to keep the profit margins the same. A lesser experience would still sell if it cost 1/3 as much.
There is no logic in that other than to hurl an insult. Get outta here with that crap.
I never rode Superstar Limo, or went to DCA in its opening decade form, but I and many can see them taking the mechanics of what was there and adjusting and retheming it to be Monsters Inc(and constantly changing the park it is in) so Disney still got some success out of it.
I do not mean to offend in any way. If I had to guess the CM they are looking to appeal to are of manager and mid/upper level executive class earning at least 6 figures. Not front frontline CM.
_caleb
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It wasn’t an insult. It was commentary on those repeated negative-yet-uninformed opinions.
I’m not sure what Monsters Inc has to do with the Starcruiser, but I rode Superstar Limo and thought it was strange. I really like the Monsters overlay (though I wish the AAs had more motion).
You know what I don’t do, though? I don’t post a negative post day after day about an attraction, resort, movie, or service I’ve not experienced.
So if you don't like the discussion that is being had, you have other options than quoting what you don't like and attacking it.
Saying you will leave someone to their strange self-gratification...is not giving an insult to you in your post? (rhetorical question. If you don't, the following still applies)
Experiencing something is not a requirement to observe that it is a failure.
Please, be a person of your word and leave to it.
MagicHappens1971
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The problem here is that the Starcruiser is truly an incredible once in a lifetime experience and I would say 99% of people who have been have had nothing but great things to say. The problem is the price point and people who don’t understand the experience bashing it
_caleb
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I’ve noticed the trend that many (most?) people who have done the Starcruiser seem to like it and many (most?) of the people who repeatedly post negatively about it have not actually done it.
And because we don’t have access to information like occupancy rates, operating costs, etc., some opinions are more informed than others.
And because we don’t have access to information like occupancy rates, operating costs, etc., some opinions are more informed than others.
The cause of the failure is not relevant.
If Disney's pitch was too high for pricing than the experience would have to have more value to people.
If the experience was not enough, then the price has to decrease so they can occupy rooms and more see the value.
People can have a variable opinion on that, and both can be right as that is what would get them to go.
MrPromey
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I remember the media reviews after their preview stays were all glowing.
Of course, they all got free stays with comped alcohol to boot.
Beyond that for people who actually pay to go, I see two groups:
1) Ultra fans
2) People with lots of disposable income
Obviously there is crossover between 1 and 2.
The ultra fans who save up or go into debt to go are likely to never admit if they feel the price was not worth it. Such a thing admits a certain level of folly on their part and there is a strong psychological factor at play.
None of us want to admit we did something dumb with our money when it's an amount that matters to us.
For the ultra fans higher up the chain that have the crossover into group two, I'm sure they've loved it.
As for the group squarely in number two, I'm sure their reviews are pretty honest about how they've enjoyed it, too.
That, along with the comped media reviews tells me that in the case of people for which money is no object, this is an enjoyable experience.
That's the thing: Once you hit an audience like this, it often doesn't come down to value because these are people who are already fine with paying ridiculously high prices for things if it's something they want.
The cost doesn't have to be justified because the question isn't one of "is it worth it?" but "am I worth it?" and the answer there is always going to be yes.*
For those of us who have been critical, I think we find ourselves to fall in the "is it worth it?" camp which isn't who this was even intended for.
The problem, it seems, is in Disney not being able to convince enough of the "I am worth it" crowd that this is an experience they'll enjoy relative to other ways they can spend their leisure time.
I think Disney could have taken approaches that would have allowed them to have their cake and eat it, too but that would have required a bigger project - something like a "planet" resort with the regular moderate/deluxe rooms and then a sort of club level that could have amounted to the Star Cruiser experience situated at the back, maybe, with excursions back to the planet for certain shared amenities (like a pool among other things) that wouldn't make sense in space but would make the family members forced along who weren't interested in the larp a little more willing to put up with it all.
This would have given them a lot more opportunity to play with price and spread costs so that high occupancy in the club level would not have been required to keep the premium experience afloat - at least in my mind. It would have offered a way to continue the Star War experience beyond just the two nights for the people doing that part** instead of the clunky resort shuffle people have to do now and maybe even worked to market that premium experience to people who came this time for the regular resort but might be enticed to spend on that once they get a better taste of what it is.
They'd have had no problems filling the regular resort part if pricing was competitive to their other moderate/deluxe resorts with a slight up-charge for the unique theme.
Of course, the chance for that starcruiser has sailed.
*There is of course, also a third group for which status is very important. They like to pretend they fall into group two and are desperate to believe it and to make others believe it which can drive a lot of wacky behavior and ludicrous attempts at justification, sometimes. To a degree, we all have a little of that in us about certain things but this semi-delusional behavior isn't grounded in rational thought so trying to consider this group in rational discussion is difficult, especially when we don't always recognize when we ourselves can fall into it.
**You know, like a land and space experience similar to the way they bundle WDW and Disney Cruise.
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