News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021

[sedati]

Right, but unfortunately I doubt the handful of hard core people will be satisfied since they won't be fully immersed.

They are never fully immersed. Their weapons aren't real and no one comes to actual harm. They likely have cell phones and other tech on them. There are probably onlookers breaking theme.

What they do possess is the ability to delve into the creative or "journey into imagination" if you will. Something many here never learned to do.

 

[larryz]

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[Casper Gutman]

Ya know, Civil War Reenactors are LARPers, too.

So, the next time some of you doubters, who are all ""confused"" about what this is about, meet one, ask them about it.

And as they explain, just heavily roll your eyes at them. And keep saying "Really? You enjoy *that*?"

And ask them egregiously stupid questions about highly unlikely scenarios like "What if someone dressed up in a Star Trek uniform?" or "What if someone brought live ammo to the reenactment?".

Because that kind of interaction is so respectful and sincere.

You think civil war reenactors are MORE respected then sci-fi or fantasy LARPers? Really?? You also seem to think folks on these boards are more likely to know civil war reenactors then sci-fi or fantasy LARPers. I find both of these assumptions highly dubious.

 

[SplashJacket]

That's a great memory - but can I ask you to clarify something? Is the joy of that memory that you got to become Pinocchio that day, or that you got to be FRIENDS with Pinocchio that day? Not insisting, genuinely asking, because there's a core difference between those two.

In a LARP, everyone's in on the gig, and you're an active participant in conjuring and keeping the vibe intact for everyone else. They play their part and you play yours - It is part of your responsibility to make that magic real for you and others, and to not be the one to break it.

At Disney, you show up as yourself and get to have the magic made real for you, by people who worked very hard to create circumstances where you could believe it, despite all your prior lived experiences. If any part of you wasn't sure you could ever skip along with Pinocchio, that day it was made clear you could. But that's less like LARPing and more like seeing a magic trick, done by convincing magicians.

There's a difference between 'Pinocchio taking you along on an adventure' and 'strolling into the Magic Kingdom and telling everyone you are Pinocchio today, and expecting them to play into it' - the second one is more like LARPing.

All this to say, I wonder the extent to which Galactic Star Cruiser guests will be encouraged to, say, develop a character for the journey, vs. just showing up as themselves and experiencing the unfolding events.

You don’t need to be a character to LARP. The interaction with characters is LARPing.

By going to a meet and greet, and by interacting with a Disney princess, you are extending the olive branch that they’re a real princess. If you meet Aurora, she’d ask “and where are my princesses and princesses from?” Your response is furthering a LARP.

This conversation stemmed from the comment by @sedati that inherently connected theme parks with LARPing, and I agree. LARPing is just playing along. There’s varying degrees to that. The suspension of disbelief is integral to both theme parks and LARPing.

Crush’s coaster in DLP exists. At no point do you feel like you’re under the ocean swimming with Crush and Nemo. But on Rise, you genuinely feel like you’re in a Star Wars story.

This interaction is LARPing:

“How many people are on this Star Cruiser?”

“That’s classified”

“That’s why I’m here (to find out about classified First Order information)”

Taking a photo with an individual wearing a Pinocchio costume, is not LARPing, but taking a photo with someone acting like Pinocchio is. My meeting with Pinocchio as a 5-year-old was uneventful at Magic Kingdom. We took a photo, we left. It was just a photo. My interaction with Pinocchio at Hollywood Studios, on the other hand, was magical, and from my perspective a LARP. He was behaving as Pinocchio would behave in real life, and I was going along with him.

Just as @TP2000 said, I don’t believe there’s a LARPing expectation when going to a Disney park for the majority of people, but I’d argue it’s become an increasing component. The majority of things to do are not LARPing, but I don’t believe LARPing is as rigid as it’s being made out to be.

Some of the best moments in the parks are when LARPs occur, and they’re primarily driven by individuals, and they’re, in the end, what makes the parks special.

 

[correcaminos]

I saw a photo of someone who received his starcruiser tunic on reddit. Didn't look bad, but the concern over there now is that those folks wont be able to be completely immersed in the Larpiness of this because other people will still be wearing tees and streetclothes. I think the hard core LARPers who are looking forward to this are going to be angry that the Smith family isn't playing along and that little bobby has a slinky dog tshirt on and dad just wants to drink some beer and not play make believe while the kids go do their thing. So few ways for this thing to be a success and so many ways for it to turn out poorly.

That's always been my concern. I'm not into LARPing but was thinking of going. I'd likely annoy guests with my cosplay at best. Some will LARP, some between, some not at all. Part of why I chose to wait. But those wanting full immersion LARP like I doubt this will be that because of other's comfort levels.

 

[Midwest Elitist]

I have to say, Vito's clickbait titles annoy me but his content is usually pretty funny. Considering he does the whole anti-SJW thing, I was surprised that we're pretty close politically. He's one of the better ones when it comes to that "Star Wars Rage" side of YouTube.

 

[durangojim]

I wonder if there will be a cap on the number of adult beverages consumed consecutively?

I also wonder if they will prevent you from brining your own alcohol on board like cruises (including Disney) do now days.

 

[durangojim]

I have to say, Vito's clickbait titles annoy me but his content is usually pretty funny. Considering he does the whole anti-SJW thing, I was surprised that we're pretty close politically. He's one of the better ones when it comes to that "Star Wars Rage" side of YouTube.

They should have sent the comic out free to those who have reservations. Would have helped build the excitement. Also for those who have reservations, I hope you all have a great time and feel your money was well spent!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I also wonder if they will prevent you from brining your own alcohol on board like cruises (including Disney) do now days.

…yeah…gonna guess that’s a given

 

[flynnibus]

You don’t need to be a character to LARP. The interaction with characters is LARPing.

By going to a meet and greet, and by interacting with a Disney princess, you are extending the olive branch that they’re a real princess. If you meet Aurora, she’d ask “and where are my princesses and princesses from?” Your response is furthering a LARP.

Crush’s coaster in DLP exists. At no point do you feel like you’re under the ocean swimming with Crush and Nemo. But on Rise, you genuinely feel like you’re in a Star Wars story.


This interaction is LARPing:

No - Suspension of disbelief or letting yourself be immersed in something as a spectator is not a LARP.

Stop trying to land grab everything that involves any sense of role playing as LARPing. It's disingenuous and just confuses everyone.

Pretending in a 30 second interaction with someone is not LARPing.
Acting like a character for a response is not LARPing.
The streetmosphere entertainment at Disney is not a LARP
Accepting a Stormtrooper performer's performance and responding in kind is not a spontaneous LARP forming.
A Meet&Greet is not a LARP - even if you play along with the performer. It's an actor/actress performing a role.


LARPing is not a verb for any sort of role play anywhere. It has specific context and meaning - not a general synonym for 'role playing' in any interaction.

 

[sedati]

I also wonder if they will prevent you from brining your own alcohol on board like cruises (including Disney) do now days.

You're going to spend that kind of money and not experience the one of a kind drinks? How much drinking does one need to do anyway? This isn't present-day EPCOT, you might actually want to remember your day.

 

[sedati]

No - Suspension of disbelief or letting yourself be immersed in something as a spectator is not a LARP.

Stop trying to land grab everything that involves any sense of role playing as LARPing. It's disingenuous and just confuses everyone.

Pretending in a 30 second interaction with someone is not LARPing.
Acting like a character for a response is not LARPing.
The streetmosphere entertainment at Disney is not a LARP
Accepting a Stormtrooper performer's performance and responding in kind is not a spontaneous LARP forming.
A Meet&Greet is not a LARP - even if you play along with the performer. It's an actor/actress performing a role.


LARPing is not a verb for any sort of role play anywhere. It has specific context and meaning - not a general synonym for 'role playing' in any interaction.

Exactly! LARPing is not a verb for ANY sort of role play anywhere- only ones' that happen LIVE and involve ACTION.

Why the mental block? The term I used was "mild-form," I didn't realized this had to be an all-or-nothing extreme. Each example you gave has elements or moments similar to those in LARPing. I was following comments that people here would have ZERO interest or even EXPERIENCE in such a concept to which I disagreed- seeing a day as a willing participant in a theme park to offer and require many similar elements. None of you have changed my mind. If you've passed through the gates of the Magic Kingdom, you've dipped your toe into what it takes to be a LARPer. Unless, as I said before, you are someone who can't get past the inherent fake-ness of it all and cling to reality at every turn thus making you a bad guest and a dull person.

Honestly, if you were ever a child or have more recently just played with a child, the basic mentality needed to enjoy this concept should come incredibly easy. Who wouldn't pay to feel like a kid again? Isn't that what theses places are for to begin with? And don't worry, anytime you need a break from childish glee, you can always go back to your room to stare at your phone and drink all the alcohol you smuggled in.

 

[dreamfinder912]

I saw a photo of someone who received his starcruiser tunic on reddit. Didn't look bad, but the concern over there now is that those folks wont be able to be completely immersed in the Larpiness of this because other people will still be wearing tees and streetclothes. I think the hard core LARPers who are looking forward to this are going to be angry that the Smith family isn't playing along and that little bobby has a slinky dog tshirt on and dad just wants to drink some beer and not play make believe while the kids go do their thing. So few ways for this thing to be a success and so many ways for it to turn out poorly.

Right, but unfortunately I doubt the handful of hard core people will be satisfied since they won't be fully immersed.

To put this very bluntly...we do not care about the family that's in slinky dog tee shirts. This kind of thing isn't a fancy restaurant where a noisy family rolls in wearing crocs and matching tie dye shirts and everyone glares. We aren't actually looking for the casual observers at all, we're looking for other people to RP with. It's more like spotting someone in your team's jersey while at an away game. When you're the visiting team you don't go looking for the home team fans and then complain about them. You try and find some fellow fans of your team to enjoy the day with. So we aren't out here to be annoyed by the people not joining in, we're looking for the people who are so we can continue our fun.

 

[flynnibus]

None of you have changed my mind. If you've passed through the gates of the Magic Kingdom, you've dipped your toe into what it takes to be a LARPer. Unless, as I said before, you are someone who can't get past the inherent fake-ness of it all and cling to reality at every turn thus making you a bad guest and a dull person.

You'd find plenty of people that are happy to take a picture with Mickey and get over the reality that this is a little girl in a suit....or find inner happiness from riding the haunted mansion.. but if you asked them do role play for 20mins along with others... they'd reject you in a heartbeat.

"letting go" sure is kinda a requirement to do role play, but just because some people can let go doesn't mean they are interested in, or aren't fearful of role play.


And mixing those eager to role play with those that do not.... is difficult. It takes training so that those in role can adapt and roll with challenges rather than breakdown and snap.

Plus the gap widens when you have people trying to act BETWEEN groups rather than in their own bubble..

Personally I don't see Disney pushing the topic.. it will be just like characters in the parks today, you can interact in character and get more if you like... or not and they are going to let it go (Think the wait staff in prime time back in the day or whispering cafe). You're not going to see gangs of self-declared story leaders running amock. That's my wager.

 

[Cesar R M]

My favorite is the guy who insists he play Washington in the reenactment of the crossing of the Delaware…

he’s so big it would have taken the 1776 equivalent of an aircraft carrier to get him across…

Get him on board the USS HORNET.
Bonus if he is on the front and you both make a reenactment of the TITANIC scene.

 

[Cesar R M]

Ya know, Civil War Reenactors are LARPers, too.

So, the next time some of you doubters, who are all ""confused"" about what this is about, meet one, ask them about it.

And as they explain, just heavily roll your eyes at them. And keep saying "Really? You enjoy *that*?"

And ask them egregiously stupid questions about highly unlikely scenarios like "What if someone dressed up in a Star Trek uniform?" or "What if someone brought live ammo to the reenactment?".

Because that kind of interaction is so respectful and sincere.

I've read that they have done that a few times..
aka trekkies appearing in medieval one and civil war ones too.

 

[Cesar R M]

You Mean the people that keep re-enacting a war they lost?

yikes..

 

[Cesar R M]

Is there a dress code? Just bought this shirt.
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Id go with this one...

 

[Cesar R M]

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WE HAVE SECURED YOUR LIIIMO.



looking at the price tag... "you get better price with multiple people" price tag is 6k+

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what a savings...

 

[Mac Tonight]

My dad actually used to do Civil War re-enactments. It was a trip as a kid to watch him go into battle, get shot, fall down dead, and then later get resurrected so he could take us to McDonalds for a Happy Meal... just like in 1863!